Distant vistas, Endeavour, Iazu, and beyond |
Distant vistas, Endeavour, Iazu, and beyond |
Jan 27 2010, 09:31 PM
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To answer Ustrax's querries from the other thread, I think we can now see more of the
The leftmost (Endeavour north rim) and middle (far rim) features look similar. But it looks like we can see more stuff on the right, which is Endeavour south rim and Iazu. The view we had a few sols ago (2133) of Iazu was still partly obscured by dunes, so it makes sense that we can see more now. I can't see Bopolu in the navcams, though it could be there and buried in the jpeg noise... |
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Feb 3 2010, 10:00 AM
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I've been meaning to post this for a while now, and the recent chat has spurred me on.
I've had a go at predicting what Opportunity can possibly see, both now and further along the predicted route. I took the HRSC topo for the area, overlaid a CTX image, plonked down a marker for (roughly) where I thought Oppy was at the time (about a week ago now), and then let ArcMap figure out what's visible for something 1.8 m off the ground at that point. I then tried again for a different point along the predicted path. So here's the base map for the area. The green dot is my poor attempt at a location. This is what might be visible at the moment (green is visible, red, er, isn't) And this is what might be visible in the future (from the red dot) This method is very sensitive to both the underlying DEM and the exact location you view from. I can get very different results by moving the marker just a tiny distance. So take it with a pinch of salt, and then add a bucket or so extra for good measure. It'd obviously be loads better if I could stick a HiRISE DEM underneath, as this method worked pretty well for the Pathfinder DEM. I'm actually hoping that the view heading down the gentle slope will be a lot better than this predicts. Pete |
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Feb 3 2010, 06:50 PM
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I've had a go at predicting what Opportunity can possibly see This is really cool, Pete. I've got a couple of questions/comments. First, does this take into account the curvature of the surface? Your results definitely look sensible along the inside of the far rim of Endeavour, presumably since the slope is quite large there. But in both plots, there are areas right adjacent to the observation point that aren't green. Why is that? I can see that the blotchiness of the green areas on the flatter areas makes sense, since the slopes there are extremely small. But it should still be green close to the observation point. I see what you mean by the green areas changing quite a bit when you move the observation point around - again, since the terrain is so flat. I wonder if you could do a series of these plots, each time moving the obs. point around a bit (say within a 10 metre or even 100 metre region), and then take the union of all the green areas. That may eliminate the high frequency noise. |
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fredk Distant vistas Jan 27 2010, 09:31 PM
Astro0 OT - but relevant to the above...
The spot Oppy... Jan 27 2010, 09:46 PM
ngunn QUOTE (Astro0 @ Jan 27 2010, 09:46 PM) OT... Jan 28 2010, 10:42 AM
Tesheiner Looking to the map again, what I see is that we ar... Jan 28 2010, 11:44 AM
ngunn QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Jan 28 2010, 11:44 AM)... Jan 28 2010, 12:44 PM
Phil Stooke Ngunn, I was just about to say the same thing. Th... Jan 28 2010, 01:06 PM
ngunn QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jan 28 2010, 01:06 P... Jan 28 2010, 02:20 PM
ngunn I'm also on the lookout for an isolated hill a... Jan 28 2010, 03:35 PM
fredk QUOTE (ngunn @ Jan 28 2010, 04:35 PM) I... Jan 29 2010, 03:48 AM
fredk I've done a cross-section plot of the elevatio... Jan 28 2010, 04:35 PM
centsworth_II QUOTE (fredk @ Jan 28 2010, 11:35 AM) I... Jan 28 2010, 05:13 PM
Phil Stooke You're welcome!
Phil Jan 28 2010, 04:44 PM
climber "Curvature works against us".
On flat gr... Jan 28 2010, 04:53 PM
fredk At the pancam height of 1.55 m, the horizon on Mar... Jan 28 2010, 05:53 PM
fredk So much to see in these latest navcams. Here... Jan 29 2010, 05:22 AM
ustrax QUOTE (fredk @ Jan 29 2010, 05:22 AM) I t... Jan 30 2010, 10:58 PM
fredk Fantastic views! Thanks everyone for putting ... Jan 31 2010, 05:17 PM
ngunn Comment and query copied from the other thread:
I... Jan 30 2010, 11:04 AM
Tesheiner http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...66P23... Jan 31 2010, 09:21 AM
Stu You want a "Distant Vista"???!! ... Jan 31 2010, 09:30 AM
ustrax QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 31 2010, 09:30 AM) You w... Jan 31 2010, 09:32 AM
nprev I knew there had to be a significant up-side to ch... Jan 31 2010, 09:59 AM
ngunn QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 31 2010, 09:59 AM) I k... Jan 31 2010, 10:33 AM
Stu ... and if you stretch the horizon until it begs f... Jan 31 2010, 10:14 AM
ngunn Are we still happy with these identifications?
htt... Jan 31 2010, 01:14 PM
SFJCody Takes me back to Spirit's first winter and wat... Jan 31 2010, 01:20 PM
jamescanvin QUOTE (ngunn @ Jan 31 2010, 01:14 PM) Are... Jan 31 2010, 02:02 PM
ngunn QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Jan 31 2010, 02:02 P... Jan 31 2010, 02:10 PM
Hungry4info QUOTE (ngunn @ Jan 31 2010, 08:10 AM) I c... Jan 31 2010, 02:30 PM
Reckless Hi all
It seems all I can say when posting here ... Jan 31 2010, 02:33 PM
centsworth_II QUOTE (Reckless @ Jan 31 2010, 09:33 AM) ... Jan 31 2010, 08:02 PM
djellison What's kind of cool is that these images of th... Jan 31 2010, 02:53 PM
Stu ...and I made my pan at 7am, so they were just 8 h... Jan 31 2010, 03:06 PM
Juramike (at least some cameras ESA flies near Mars have a ... Jan 31 2010, 03:55 PM
jamescanvin Here are the horizon features plotted alongside an... Jan 31 2010, 04:02 PM
Phil Stooke The great thing about this is that the view is jus... Jan 31 2010, 04:25 PM
ngunn QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jan 31 2010, 04:25 P... Jan 31 2010, 05:18 PM
NW71 Like many previous posts I am just in awe of both ... Jan 31 2010, 07:33 PM
centsworth_II QUOTE (NW71 @ Jan 31 2010, 02:33 PM) 1 - ... Jan 31 2010, 08:06 PM
Tesheiner QUOTE (NW71 @ Jan 31 2010, 08:33 PM) 1 - ... Feb 1 2010, 08:58 PM
ngunn That's excellent, thanks James! Now we can... Jan 31 2010, 04:26 PM
fredk Neil, Squyres was asked about Oppy's power lev... Jan 31 2010, 08:18 PM
Reckless Hi Centsworth_II
I did realize that Oppy is furt... Jan 31 2010, 08:26 PM
MoreInput Cool. Spirit needed only 68 Sols from Bonneville t... Jan 31 2010, 09:03 PM
Tesheiner Below the minimum, I would say.
Check the route fr... Jan 31 2010, 10:58 PM
djellison Time and again we've played the X metres in Y... Jan 31 2010, 11:09 PM
nprev The old saying "You can have it done fast, or... Jan 31 2010, 11:14 PM
eoincampbell Feels like the road to Endurance again, which is c... Feb 1 2010, 05:52 AM
Astro0 Stretchy horizon comparison - animation.
Feb 1 2010, 12:34 PM
ustrax QUOTE (Astro0 @ Feb 1 2010, 12:34 PM) Str... Feb 1 2010, 02:06 PM
walfy QUOTE (Astro0 @ Feb 1 2010, 04:34 AM) Str... Feb 1 2010, 08:18 PM
Ant103 OMG !! This is amazing Astro0 !! W... Feb 1 2010, 03:10 PM
Oersted Oh, yes, that is a great animated gif Astro0! Feb 1 2010, 05:30 PM
MoreInput Cool animation. I starred the whole day long at it... Feb 1 2010, 06:38 PM
Tesheiner QUOTE (MoreInput @ Feb 1 2010, 07:38 PM) ... Feb 1 2010, 08:41 PM
Tesheiner QUOTE (pgrindrod @ Feb 3 2010, 11:00 AM) ... Feb 3 2010, 01:53 PM
djellison Pete - chuck that Pathfinder demo of Viewshed in h... Feb 3 2010, 10:42 AM
pgrindrod QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 3 2010, 10:42 AM) ... Feb 3 2010, 02:04 PM
ngunn There are just great. Any chance you could extend ... Feb 3 2010, 02:40 PM
ElkGroveDan QUOTE (ngunn @ Feb 3 2010, 06:40 AM) Any ... Feb 3 2010, 02:57 PM
ElkGroveDan Did we all notice that the SW flank of Victoria sh... Feb 3 2010, 02:53 PM
pgrindrod Yeah I'm troubled by the lack of visibility ar... Feb 3 2010, 07:40 PM
Phil Stooke Here's an extreme vertical stretch of the hill... Feb 5 2010, 02:57 AM
ngunn Something dark on the skyline in this view, though... Feb 6 2010, 09:31 AM
Tesheiner Good catch, ngunn!
The heading is consistent w... Feb 6 2010, 12:37 PM
fredk QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Feb 6 2010, 01:37 PM) ... Feb 6 2010, 06:10 PM
Tesheiner We will certainly have to keep an eye on those fea... Feb 6 2010, 07:25 PM
Stu Wow, we've only just got here and we can alrea... Feb 6 2010, 01:04 PM
Stu Concepcion and the Next Crater, seen at same scale... Feb 6 2010, 01:21 PM
ustrax QUOTE (Stu @ Feb 6 2010, 01:21 PM) Concep... Feb 6 2010, 04:03 PM
Nirgal As long as there is no HiRISE DEM yet ... here is ... Feb 6 2010, 04:22 PM
Tman Just at that twin crater we might get a better vie... Feb 6 2010, 04:40 PM
ngunn I've been pondering these features, the farthe... Feb 6 2010, 07:10 PM
Phil Stooke Here's a crater in about the right place.
Phi... Feb 6 2010, 08:02 PM
ngunn That looks highly plausible Phil. How far away is ... Feb 6 2010, 08:10 PM
Phil Stooke It is about where we start to turn to the east aft... Feb 6 2010, 08:18 PM
ngunn Referring to the crater that appears on the horizo... Feb 8 2010, 10:59 PM
fredk QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Feb 6 2010, 09:18 PM... Feb 8 2010, 11:45 PM
nprev Stu's latest pic (which is a wow!) made me... Feb 7 2010, 05:36 AM
Shaka The soft, sulfate sandstone surrounding us at the ... Feb 7 2010, 08:42 PM
nprev Oh, great. Now I gotta come up with a sentence fea... Feb 7 2010, 08:53 PM
djellison Quite. Feb 7 2010, 10:51 PM
NW71 please... Feb 7 2010, 11:05 PM
nprev Damned if I didn't misspell "quintessenti... Feb 8 2010, 01:05 AM
Astro0 Please be kwik! Feb 8 2010, 01:17 AM
ngunn Now we are sicks?
http://images.google.com/imgres?... Feb 8 2010, 10:23 AM
Phil Stooke "Gonna get the letter Q kicked out of the Eng... Feb 8 2010, 12:01 PM
fredk Ngunn, using the proposed route we've seen fro... Feb 8 2010, 11:25 PM
Phil Stooke Right, I must have missed that! Very good. T... Feb 9 2010, 04:02 AM
ngunn What's that on the right?
http://qt.explorator... Feb 12 2010, 02:52 PM
nprev Could you be more specific? Nothing jumps out at m... Feb 12 2010, 03:42 PM
centsworth_II QUOTE (nprev @ Feb 12 2010, 10:42 AM) Cou... Feb 12 2010, 03:54 PM
vikingmars QUOTE (nprev @ Feb 12 2010, 04:42 PM) Cou... Feb 12 2010, 04:05 PM
ngunn There appears to be a hill on the horizon extendin... Feb 12 2010, 03:58 PM
Phil Stooke Comparing this with the circular pan from the othe... Feb 12 2010, 04:33 PM
fredk Here's my attempt at pulling Bopolu out of the... Feb 12 2010, 09:04 PM![]() ![]() |
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