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Feb 1 2010, 12:48 AM
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Well, with perhaps a few more weeks of tilt-enhancing drives to go and then settling in for the winter, I thought it might be a good time to have a thread dedicated to ideas and observations that will come. It's likely that we won't hear much from Spirit during the coldest part of winter (April-June) possibly longer. There'll hopefully be beeps to tell us that she's still alive.
Already there are plans for radio science and determining the fluidity or otherwise of the Martian core, plus weather observations, surface changes etc. What else could you think of that Spirit could do? Remember that she's not going anywhere (vonBraun is out) In the meantime, have you sent your postcard to Spirit yet?! It's a great idea from the Mars outreach team. http://beamartian.jpl.nasa.gov/spiritpostcards What would you say to Spirit? |
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Feb 12 2010, 03:55 PM
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Thinking about the "hibernation" period for Spirit some more, I have a couple questions. Forgive me if these have been covered before; I don't recall seeing anything...
Once she has "shut down" and is hibernating, is it correct to assume that Spirit will not be consuming any power? If so, wouldn't that mean that what little power the panels do generate each day (whether its 10 whr or 100) would go into charging the batteries? And if that's the case, could we expect Spirit to wake up periodically throughout the winter and try to make contact? (Even though the simple act of waking up may prompt her to trip a low-power fault again.) During any brief periods of wakefulness, would the computers generate enough heat to provide some warmth to the WEB? And (finally!) would such temperature cycles be helpful or harmful to her chances of long term survival? Sorry for all the hypotheticals. I know that the hibernation period has been discussed, but I don't recall seeing anything about the possible effects of cyclic sleeping and waking. |
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Feb 12 2010, 05:04 PM
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is it correct to assume that Spirit will not be consuming any power? .......would the computers generate enough heat to provide some warmth to the WEB? And (finally!) would such temperature cycles be helpful or harmful to her chances of long term survival? Back in the pre-Victoria entry power crisis, but that was nearly 3 years ago, so I'm working off unreliable memories here... These documents may help : http://trs-new.jpl.nasa.gov/dspace/handle/2014/13037 http://trs-new.jpl.nasa.gov/dspace/handle/2014/13105 http://trs-new.jpl.nasa.gov/dspace/handle/2014/37750 http://trs-new.jpl.nasa.gov/dspace/handle/2014/17736 in particular QUOTE The response to low batteries or power faults does not use the scheduled communication windows. If the rover is awake when a low battery situation occurs, the flight software has 60 seconds to quickly shut down before the BCB removes the batteries from the power bus. If it is nighttime when the BCB detects a low battery condition, the BCB takes the battery offline and the power bus crashes. Eventually, when the sun rises, the solar array power supports the bus and the BCB. As the batteries charge back up, the BCB puts them back online to support the bus. At the next solar wakeup, the flight software schedules one LGA communication window at a predetermined hour (11:00 LST) to report to Earth. No UHF windows are attempted because these usually occur in the early morning or late afternoon, when the available solar power is low. The vehicle remains in this configuration (with autonomous shutdown mode active, in receive mode via the LGA, performing one DTE window per day) until the operations team reconfigures the vehicle to resume normal operations As I understand it, the Rover Battery Control Board ( RBCB / BCB ) remains on - managing and measuring the power generated by the arrays and the battery, and issuing wakeup to the main computer based on either a specific power being generated or a timer. How, exactly, this will tie in to brown outs, low power faults etc, I don't know Also - there are RHU's within the WEB to generate a certain ammount of heat. As for thermal cycles, every single day-night cycle is a thermal cycle and every single one runs the risk of a solder fracturing or a wire breaking. |
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Astro0 Spirit - 2010 Winter@Troy Feb 1 2010, 12:48 AM
vikingmars Now, let's derive some experience from the mis... Feb 1 2010, 12:05 PM
Ant103 So, I think there is something cool to do about fu... Feb 1 2010, 03:17 PM
Tesheiner I would love to see such a "beast" panor... Feb 1 2010, 03:50 PM
elakdawalla Maybe they can finally do that rover MI self-portr... Feb 1 2010, 05:50 PM
cbcnasa As a permanent station the ability to go back to a... Feb 1 2010, 06:13 PM
Astro0 I know that they plan to look at microchanges in s... Feb 1 2010, 10:38 PM
NW71 I don't want to worry anyone but according to ... Feb 4 2010, 01:30 AM
Mixer QUOTE (NW71 @ Feb 4 2010, 12:30 PM) I don... Feb 4 2010, 01:59 AM
Mixer QUOTE (NW71 @ Feb 4 2010, 12:30 PM) I don... Feb 4 2010, 11:30 AM

NW71 Mixer, no offence taken!
To be fair, I should... Feb 4 2010, 12:22 PM
serpens QUOTE (NW71 @ Feb 4 2010, 02:30 AM) I don... Feb 4 2010, 12:27 PM
alan I guess that explains the absence of new images do... Feb 4 2010, 04:00 AM
Tesheiner Tasks were sequenced to be executed from 2162 up t... Feb 4 2010, 09:38 AM
djellison What gives you the idea that they've been inte... Feb 4 2010, 12:49 PM
Poolio He might have been alluding to Ashley's commen... Feb 4 2010, 04:22 PM
Tesheiner I haven't seen any decrease in northern tilt f... Feb 4 2010, 05:44 PM
serpens Indeed Poolio. From that report quote
'Spirit... Feb 5 2010, 04:10 AM
Sunspot How low do they expect power levels to drop in ter... Feb 12 2010, 12:05 PM
fredk QUOTE (Sunspot @ Feb 12 2010, 01:05 PM) H... Feb 12 2010, 08:32 PM
tanjent With regard to the liquid/solid core question, tha... Feb 12 2010, 12:36 PM
djellison A - Six months is what I have seen as well
B - A s... Feb 12 2010, 12:51 PM
tanjent I remember in grade school, we learned to spin the... Feb 12 2010, 01:10 PM
elakdawalla One small correction -- I've been told Spirit ... Feb 12 2010, 02:38 PM
Poolio Spirit had an all time low of 86 whr during the re... Feb 12 2010, 03:25 PM
fredk Some details in this update. It looks like prepar... Feb 12 2010, 08:42 PM
Stu Guess that's it, then; our girl is hunkering d... Feb 12 2010, 09:16 PM
marsophile I assume there is no danger of the flash memory an... Feb 12 2010, 10:40 PM
ElkGroveDan The flash memory anomaly is now very well understo... Feb 13 2010, 12:06 AM
Paolo Is there anything published about Spirit's ... Feb 13 2010, 01:46 PM
Poolio Wow, Doug, thanks for all the relevant info. I wil... Feb 13 2010, 04:48 PM
imipak When I win the lottery, I'm funding a start-up... Feb 13 2010, 08:20 PM
briv1016 There are 801.9 Mb of imagery data and an unknown ... Feb 14 2010, 06:55 AM
PaulM QUOTE (briv1016 @ Feb 14 2010, 06:55 AM) ... Feb 14 2010, 09:01 AM
briv1016 My bad. For some reason I thought that the flash ... Feb 14 2010, 09:28 AM
Explorer1 Greetings everyone. Longtime lurker here (since th... Feb 14 2010, 08:23 PM
sgendreau QUOTE (Explorer1 @ Feb 14 2010, 12:23 PM)... Feb 14 2010, 09:25 PM
Eluchil QUOTE (Explorer1 @ Feb 14 2010, 08:23 PM)... Feb 14 2010, 10:14 PM
djellison MI Pan now she's parked up. Others will do a ... Feb 14 2010, 08:48 PM
elakdawalla I asked Squyres about past landers during the Janu... Feb 14 2010, 10:36 PM
Explorer1 Well that explains it. Thanks for the quick reply... Feb 14 2010, 10:51 PM
ddeerrff QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Feb 14 2010, 04:36 P... Feb 15 2010, 02:59 AM
Paolo QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Feb 15 2010, 12:36 A... Feb 15 2010, 08:29 PM
elakdawalla That would make sense. I don't know, though. Feb 15 2010, 03:46 AM
PDP8E Here is the MI images of the final parking spot of... Feb 15 2010, 04:23 AM
Stu Couple of new 3D views here...
http://twitpic.com... Feb 15 2010, 08:08 AM
Explorer1 QUOTE (Stu @ Feb 15 2010, 12:08 AM) Don... Feb 15 2010, 10:04 AM
Stu It's been said before, and often - Don't b... Feb 15 2010, 10:10 AM
briv1016 Power down to 173 watt-hours. Feb 19 2010, 11:02 AM
MahFL I assume they will have time to upload the table b... Feb 19 2010, 01:39 PM
serpens Anyone know what the final aspect was? How much o... Feb 21 2010, 07:01 AM
Mixer QUOTE (serpens @ Feb 21 2010, 06:01 PM) A... Feb 21 2010, 10:02 AM
Hungry4info To the south? I thought they were angled north now... Feb 21 2010, 01:09 PM
redmoon No, Spirit is tilted 9 degrees toward the south : ... Feb 21 2010, 01:44 PM
James Sorenson Here is the IDD work volume pan taken between sol... Feb 22 2010, 06:15 AM
MahFL Yes the tilt is South, time, energy and luck ran o... Feb 22 2010, 01:58 PM
abbath QUOTE (James Sorenson @ Feb 22 2010, 07:1... Feb 22 2010, 02:49 PM
djellison Spirit is such a drama queen sometimes. I'm ... Feb 22 2010, 02:27 PM
fredk That rock looks like countless thousands more just... Feb 22 2010, 05:20 PM
vikingmars tau is indeed very low : look at the contrast on t... Feb 23 2010, 04:14 PM
MizarKey I'm anticipating seeing something we wouldn... Feb 24 2010, 02:36 AM
Hungry4info Physorg is running a story
"Spirit's Jou... Feb 27 2010, 11:41 AM
JayB via twitter
@elakdawalla Ray Arvidson: Spirit... Mar 1 2010, 07:23 PM
fredk More details in the latest planetary update. On d... Mar 1 2010, 09:50 PM
PaulM latest planetary update. also contains the follow... Mar 2 2010, 12:48 PM
Hungry4info Yeah, I know exactly what you mean about MSL. Shor... Mar 2 2010, 01:04 PM
djellison Like all the best funerals (and that's not a c... Mar 2 2010, 01:08 PM
hendric I was just wondering this a few weeks ago. I thin... Mar 2 2010, 02:49 PM
bugs_ Rovershock??? Oh Noez!!! I'll ge... Mar 2 2010, 04:28 PM
Stu Well, we'll cross that bridge when we come to ... Mar 2 2010, 09:00 PM
Explorer1 Something I've been wondering about for some t... Mar 2 2010, 10:30 PM
fredk It's been so long since those days, and I don... Mar 2 2010, 11:32 PM
Explorer1 QUOTE (fredk @ Mar 2 2010, 03:32 PM) Chec... Mar 3 2010, 05:54 AM
Hungry4info Probably not. I think they're on the other sid... Mar 4 2010, 01:30 PM
fredk I thought about looking for the heatshield (easies... Mar 4 2010, 06:42 PM
djellison QUOTE (fredk @ Mar 4 2010, 06:42 PM) (bot... Mar 4 2010, 07:05 PM
fredk The azimuth is right for West Spur, but West Spur ... Mar 4 2010, 07:34 PM
djellison West Spur, however, is in that direction. 'Lo... Mar 4 2010, 08:10 PM
fredk "Lookout Point" was only ever an informa... Mar 4 2010, 08:44 PM
centsworth_II This story shows that before it was decided that S... Mar 4 2010, 08:50 PM
Lucas Lots of Pancam pictures returned on March 3rd, inc... Mar 6 2010, 02:28 PM
NickF Here's an RGB appetiser before the image geniu... Mar 6 2010, 07:08 PM
alan From roverdriver's twitter feed:
QUOTE Spirit... Mar 8 2010, 03:59 PM
Tesheiner The last status report on the project's web pa... Mar 8 2010, 04:06 PM
Astro0 She may be down, but she's not out!
Anoth... Mar 11 2010, 03:18 AM
Explorer1 Spirit 2200: sounds like some sci-fi movie title f... Mar 11 2010, 04:42 AM
vikingmars YES ! Only 46 more Sols to go before beating V... Mar 11 2010, 11:12 AM
Explorer1 I was wondering when they'd beat that old reco... Mar 11 2010, 08:40 PM
briv1016 Odds are we are going to be in "hibernation... Mar 11 2010, 09:24 PM
Mixer QUOTE (briv1016 @ Mar 12 2010, 08:24 AM) ... Mar 12 2010, 12:37 AM
briv1016 They've switched to 7-sol planning. Mar 12 2010, 12:23 AM
Tesheiner QUOTE (briv1016 @ Mar 12 2010, 01:23 AM) ... Mar 15 2010, 10:19 AM
Astro0 No, you've seen those people too.
Everyone has... Mar 12 2010, 12:51 AM
fredk New images are now down. Most recent are from sol... Mar 15 2010, 08:10 PM
Tesheiner Great news!
Now, if we could have info about ... Mar 15 2010, 08:46 PM
briv1016 According to the tracking site, the only onboard i... Mar 16 2010, 03:23 AM
JayB via twitter a few minutes ago
@marsroverdriver Sp... Mar 19 2010, 12:07 AM
brellis keep yer chin up, girl! hope those devils cle... Mar 19 2010, 01:45 AM![]() ![]() |
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