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Feb 2 2010, 10:23 AM
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Telecon announcement (via Jupiter List - thanks)
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/jupiter_list/message/8170 |
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Feb 13 2010, 07:48 PM
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Terrestrial climatology's a banned topic here; I'm mentioning this term *solely* in the context of outer planets, icy moons and suchlike.
As I understand it, the proposed mechanism for the Iapetus dichotomy and perhaps for Pluto's changing regional albedo and colour sounds like it might be analagous to a (hypothesised) phenomena known as "the albedo flip feedback". I won't describe it here, except to say that the basic idea is of temperature-related albedo changes feeding back on themselves. The question, then, is: are these outer solar-system surface albedo variations examples of A.F.F., or is A.F.F. an example of an Iapetus / Pluto / (others?) process? (And who gets to decide, anyway? Call the IAU! Does anyone know of diagrams plotting the phase spaces of the sort of gunk we might expect to see on the surface of KBOs, TNOs and Pluto, as sun-centred concentric bands? (Mebbe there are too many different species of tholins, all with slightly different temp/phase characteristics, to make that practical?) I can visualise Pluto's eccentric orbit crossing many such bands as it approaches and recedes from the sun along it's orbit, causing assorted varieties of rains, snows, hails, steams, fogs, geysers and sublimation. Perhaps you'd end up with something like a... (FSM forgive me!) ... cryo-Io, plus Titan-like surface liquid features, *plus* the sort of wacky features the CO2 condensation / sublimation cycle produces at the Martian poles. (Swiss cheese terrain, the spiders, deep canyons in the ice-caps, strong seasonal winds, etc.) ...or perhaps I should stop eating farmhouse cheddar at bedtime. -------------------- --
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ngunn New Pluto images discussed Feb 2 2010, 10:23 AM
tedstryk This is going to be awesome. That's all I... Feb 2 2010, 02:51 PM
Webscientist Signs of cryovolcanic activities? Feb 2 2010, 05:15 PM
ElkGroveDan Discovery of multiple bodies and/or rings? Feb 2 2010, 06:27 PM
ugordan I'm starting to really hate this teasing and h... Feb 2 2010, 06:41 PM
NickF Penguins? Feb 2 2010, 07:22 PM
Hungry4info We're told that the HST images will help bette... Feb 2 2010, 07:51 PM
ngunn You echo my own thoughts exactly there H4I (about ... Feb 2 2010, 08:01 PM
Hungry4info The dark spots on Pluto were found by watching mut... Feb 2 2010, 08:02 PM
ngunn Maybe it's those lightcurves that are now in n... Feb 2 2010, 08:47 PM
NGC3314 Odd - the HST archive search doesn't show any ... Feb 2 2010, 09:01 PM
Hungry4info QUOTE (NGC3314 @ Feb 2 2010, 03:01 PM) Ma... Feb 2 2010, 10:04 PM
ngunn QUOTE (NGC3314 @ Feb 2 2010, 09:01 PM) Un... Feb 2 2010, 10:13 PM
stevesliva QUOTE (ngunn @ Feb 2 2010, 06:13 PM) Does... Feb 2 2010, 10:17 PM
alan I see Mike Brown is involved, my guess:
On close ... Feb 2 2010, 10:08 PM
stevesliva Searched sci.astro.hubble for "Kuiper."
... Feb 2 2010, 10:25 PM
Hungry4info That, almost certainly, is what this is about. Feb 2 2010, 10:27 PM
ElkGroveDan I get the feeling that rather than some kind of nu... Feb 2 2010, 10:49 PM
ngunn Well done stevesliva! (Now, what's going o... Feb 2 2010, 10:52 PM
volcanopele If the dates covered in that post are the dates th... Feb 3 2010, 12:05 AM
stevesliva QUOTE (volcanopele @ Feb 2 2010, 08:05 PM... Feb 3 2010, 01:07 AM
NGC3314 The archive lists 472 observations to date on prog... Feb 3 2010, 02:22 AM
Hungry4info Doing a little research, I find that HST has alrea... Feb 3 2010, 01:22 PM
ElkGroveDan Dark spots indeed. As we are a day away still, I... Feb 3 2010, 02:15 PM
Hungry4info This image has my vote for "the best so far.... Feb 3 2010, 02:39 PM
tedstryk Here is a more natural take on one of the 1996 ima... Feb 3 2010, 05:36 PM
tedstryk I just saved this link a while back, but it is cle... Feb 3 2010, 07:29 PM
elakdawalla Ted and Hungry4info, what are the sources of those... Feb 3 2010, 05:48 PM
Hungry4info Ted's is HST (And was posted by ElkGroveDan as... Feb 3 2010, 05:55 PM
machi QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Feb 3 2010, 03:15 PM... Feb 3 2010, 06:47 PM
Hungry4info Are you sure? Comparing the images of Jupiter from... Feb 3 2010, 06:49 PM
elakdawalla Here is a comparison of Hubble camera FOV and pixe... Feb 3 2010, 06:59 PM
machi QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Feb 3 2010, 07:49 PM... Feb 3 2010, 07:28 PM
tedstryk The ACS HRC had a far, far superior signal to nois... Feb 3 2010, 07:31 PM
Stu Here's a link to the site covering the telecon... Feb 4 2010, 05:41 PM
ElkGroveDan Does anyone know if there is a companion page wher... Feb 4 2010, 05:45 PM
Stu Haven't found one yet... maybe a link will pop... Feb 4 2010, 05:48 PM
elakdawalla They usually give the link when the conference sta... Feb 4 2010, 05:58 PM
Stu Pix... http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/re... Feb 4 2010, 06:04 PM
ElkGroveDan Wow! Got the video - nice! Feb 4 2010, 06:04 PM
elakdawalla I think I'm going to ask what the magnitude of... Feb 4 2010, 06:09 PM
ElkGroveDan Ask if they were able to also make observations of... Feb 4 2010, 06:26 PM
MahFL Wow he noticed the colour change in 2002 and is on... Feb 4 2010, 06:31 PM
MahFL She just asked the question. Feb 4 2010, 06:40 PM
MahFL Lots of unknowns.......... Feb 4 2010, 06:43 PM
Stu He already explained he doubted what he saw and ha... Feb 4 2010, 06:42 PM
AndyG QUOTE (Stu @ Feb 4 2010, 06:42 PM) A HUGE... Feb 5 2010, 05:33 PM
stevesliva QUOTE The Hubble images are a few pixels wide. But... Feb 4 2010, 06:44 PM
elakdawalla Yes, Pluto is the closest of the big ones and the ... Feb 4 2010, 06:51 PM
volcanopele I added the new map to my copy of Celestia, and he... Feb 4 2010, 10:15 PM
Astro0 The surfaces changes between 1994 and 2002-03 are ... Feb 4 2010, 10:37 PM
ngunn It would be nice to add into that animation the ea... Feb 4 2010, 10:42 PM
Ian R Here's a fascinating "behind the scenes... Feb 4 2010, 10:46 PM
tedstryk Marc Buie has posted the full paper, including the... Feb 5 2010, 04:28 AM
Stu http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/art...arf-p... Feb 5 2010, 12:57 PM
Hungry4info QUOTE (Stu @ Feb 5 2010, 06:57 AM) Pluto ... Feb 5 2010, 03:17 PM

tedstryk About 70 days out. Feb 5 2010, 03:28 PM

tasp QUOTE (tedstryk @ Feb 5 2010, 09:28 AM) A... Feb 5 2010, 05:50 PM
Greg Hullender QUOTE (Stu @ Feb 5 2010, 04:57 AM) http:/... Feb 6 2010, 04:39 AM
tedstryk Also, there was a set taken with WF/PC2 and NICMOS... Feb 6 2010, 06:02 AM
Julius Any plans for viewing Pluto between now and pluto ... Feb 5 2010, 01:21 PM
tedstryk Yes - it says so in the press release, last senten... Feb 5 2010, 01:57 PM
ngunn Anybody know at what range and how long before clo... Feb 5 2010, 03:11 PM
ngunn Thanks. (I think I heard Mike say that future Hubb... Feb 5 2010, 03:48 PM
tedstryk They will likely be somewhat poorer in spatial res... Feb 5 2010, 05:07 PM
elakdawalla I think Buie mentioned during the briefing that it... Feb 6 2010, 04:09 PM
tedstryk Quoting the abstract for the WFC3 observations, ... Feb 7 2010, 12:19 AM
tedstryk It is worth noting that there was some darkening o... Feb 7 2010, 12:30 AM
nprev Guess the big question here is whether we're s... Feb 7 2010, 05:27 AM
Webscientist Why are the presumed deposits so globally asymmetr... Feb 7 2010, 08:48 AM
hendric I think the slightest albedo difference would tend... Feb 7 2010, 05:44 AM
ngunn QUOTE (hendric @ Feb 7 2010, 05:44 AM) I ... Feb 7 2010, 08:04 AM
AndyG QUOTE (hendric @ Feb 7 2010, 05:44 AM) ..... Feb 7 2010, 09:54 PM
ugordan QUOTE (AndyG @ Feb 7 2010, 10:54 PM) All ... Feb 7 2010, 09:59 PM
AndyG QUOTE (ugordan @ Feb 7 2010, 09:59 PM) Da... Feb 8 2010, 11:55 PM
nprev Ah! Yes, true; interesting how such a recent d... Feb 7 2010, 05:53 AM
Phil Stooke Charon and Pluto are tidally locked.
Regarding ... Feb 7 2010, 01:19 PM
tedstryk Yes, although Triton has much more subdued albedo ... Feb 7 2010, 01:24 PM
Juramike QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Feb 7 2010, 08:19 AM... Feb 7 2010, 03:01 PM
Julius I wouldnt be surprised if Pluto has geysers like T... Feb 7 2010, 02:08 PM
Hungry4info With as close as Pluto and Charon are, I would pre... Feb 7 2010, 07:12 PM
nprev Re residual tidal energy dissipation: That's a... Feb 7 2010, 08:06 PM
Fran Ontanaya I guess the mass displaced by the seasonal changes... Feb 8 2010, 01:20 AM
Mixer Has anybody got a link to listen to the audio of t... Feb 8 2010, 02:46 AM
hendric Where is the sub-Charon point on the map? My gues... Feb 8 2010, 03:34 AM
volcanopele Anti-Charon hemisphere... Feb 8 2010, 04:03 AM
imipak QUOTE (ugordan @ Feb 7 2010, 09:59 PM) Da... Feb 8 2010, 09:48 PM
nprev All these comments certainly illuminate the potent... Feb 9 2010, 12:19 AM
tasp Heating of the surface will certainly be a complex... Feb 9 2010, 12:53 AM
remcook "Well, not during the three+ days of darkness... Feb 9 2010, 07:40 AM
JohnVV just something i have been working on while taking... Feb 12 2010, 08:25 AM
Juramike QUOTE (imipak @ Feb 13 2010, 02:48 PM) Do... Feb 20 2010, 02:22 PM
PhilCo126 I'm trying to get an idea of Pluto's ... Feb 20 2010, 11:01 AM
djellison QUOTE (PhilCo126 @ Feb 20 2010, 11:01 AM)... Feb 20 2010, 04:02 PM
JohnVV "surely there's no "yellow" in ... Feb 20 2010, 06:21 PM
Lunik9 Most NASA artist's impressions show a red-colo... Sep 20 2010, 03:59 PM![]() ![]() |
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