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Jan 29 2005, 12:17 PM
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An overlooked mission yet one that will be the focus of media attention in 155 days from now on July 4 2005, so there's time left to post a message before impact
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Mar 6 2005, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Feb 14 2005, 10:28 AM) (2) DI did indeed take some calibration photos of the Moon shortly after leaving Earth, and one has been released. It looks -- unlike the fuzzy misted-up Stardust photos -- nice and clear. Here it is: ![]() 119 days until impact. |
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Jun 11 2005, 04:16 PM
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It appears that Deep Impact is suffering from a re-run of the old Hubble optical problem. Ball Aerospace used an optical surface during the camera manufacturing process which changed shape slightly with different temperatures, and the flyby images will need to be deconvoluted to recover detail. The impact vehicle appears to be OK, however.
I think the only response possible is 'D'oh!'. -------------------- Remember: Time Flies like the wind - but Fruit Flies like bananas!
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Jun 15 2005, 11:52 PM
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Tempel-1 pictured with Medium Resolution Imager (MRI) camera:
http://deepimpact.umd.edu/gallery/DI_T1_doy164.html (quite strange linear artifacts near the comet... A sad question/consideration. The impactor uses a high-precision star tracker, which imply some kind of optical instrument... why they didn't planned to use it (or add a dedicated small camera) to take a "movie" of nucleus approach? Even using a low resolution and limiting bit rate (let's say, one picture/min) last images should easily reach sub-meter resolution of pre-impact area, a result impossible even with perfectly focused HRI... -------------------- I always think before posting! - Marco -
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Jun 16 2005, 12:21 AM
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QUOTE (dilo @ Jun 16 2005, 09:52 AM) A sad question/consideration. The impactor uses a high-precision star tracker, which imply some kind of optical instrument... why they didn't planned to use it (or add a dedicated small camera) to take a "movie" of nucleus approach? Even using a low resolution and limiting bit rate (let's say, one picture/min) last images should easily reach sub-meter resolution of pre-impact area, a result impossible even with perfectly focused HRI... It will. From the Press Kit: QUOTE The impactor begins science imaging 22 hours before impact with a pair of full-frame
images -- one exposed for the nucleus, and one exposed for the coma, the dimmer cloud that surrounds the nucleus. Similar image pairs will then be obtained every two hours until 12 hours before impact. At that time, the impactor will spend two minutes taking the same pictures and other data that it will collect during the final two minutes before impact. This demonstration is designed to verify that it will execute this critical data-taking correctly during the final and most critical segment of its mission. Beginning 10 hours before impact, images will be taken every two hours until 8 hours before impact; every hour from 7 to 4 hours before impact; and every 30 minutes from 3 to 1 hour before impact. At that time, the pace of imaging will increase until it reaches a maximum of one picture every 0.7 second at about 12 seconds before impact. Engineers say that odds are at least 50-50 that dust hitting the impactor will end transmission of its images during the final 10 seconds before impact. The final potential image that could be transmitted in its entirety is one scheduled at about 2 seconds before impact, with a scale of about 20 centimeters (approximately 8 inches) per pixel. -------------------- |
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cIclops Deep Impact Jan 29 2005, 12:17 PM
Decepticon Does annyone know if DI has any plans after primar... Feb 1 2005, 01:03 AM
cIclops Good question. After data playback DI will be a fu... Feb 1 2005, 08:18 AM
tedstryk I have heard talk about trying to send it to at le... Feb 1 2005, 10:47 AM
djellison I'm sure it'll get that funding - a pre la... Feb 1 2005, 02:06 PM
tedstryk Lets hope DI has 8 years to explore many comets... Feb 1 2005, 03:22 PM
Decepticon Looks like great news!
Thanks for the updates... Feb 5 2005, 03:24 AM
djellison I wonder if DI's done any Earht Observations a... Feb 5 2005, 03:54 PM
tedstryk I remember reading it would. But whether it will ... Feb 5 2005, 05:35 PM
DEChengst QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 5 2005, 03:54 PM)I won... Feb 5 2005, 05:54 PM
djellison They recovered from that safing very quickly - and... Feb 5 2005, 09:32 PM
cIclops There is a neat DI simulator available at http://n... Feb 7 2005, 02:34 PM
cIclops 1st trajectory correction maneuver (TCM) performed... Feb 12 2005, 09:42 AM
BruceMoomaw (1) The DI people have been considering a follow-... Feb 14 2005, 10:28 AM
dilo Thanks James, I completely missed it (hope this wi... Jun 16 2005, 01:47 AM
Comga To be precise, the neucleus and coma images will b... Jun 21 2005, 06:33 AM
dilo Tank you very much, comga!
I understand that ... Jun 21 2005, 09:36 PM
Comga QUOTE (dilo @ Jun 21 2005, 03:36 PM)I underst... Jun 22 2005, 06:34 AM
Comga You can also look at the JPL site
http://deepimpa... Jun 22 2005, 06:51 AM
dilo Thanks again, Comga!
About compression, I made... Jun 22 2005, 04:45 PM
Bob Shaw Judging from the Giotto dust impact experience (it... Jun 22 2005, 07:58 PM
cIclops Thanks for the image ObsessedWithWorlds, it's ... Mar 6 2005, 12:46 PM
cIclops Only 100 days to impact and still no update from t... Mar 25 2005, 04:08 PM
Sunspot QUOTE (cIclops @ Mar 25 2005, 04:08 PM)Only 1... Mar 25 2005, 04:15 PM
cIclops From Deep Impact Mission Status 03.25.05
the goo... Mar 26 2005, 08:11 AM
dot.dk QUOTE (cIclops @ Mar 26 2005, 08:11 AM)... Mar 26 2005, 08:58 AM
DEChengst QUOTE (dot.dk @ Mar 26 2005, 08:58 AM)QUOTE (... Mar 26 2005, 11:25 AM
DEChengst QUOTE (dot.dk @ Mar 26 2005, 08:58 AM)Oh dear... Mar 26 2005, 11:27 AM
Roby72 The image of Jupiter taken with the HRI looked uns... Mar 26 2005, 07:50 PM
tedstryk http://aviationnow.ecnext.com/free-scripts...rticl... Apr 5 2005, 02:07 AM
Marcel QUOTE (tedstryk @ Apr 5 2005, 02:07 AM)http:/... Apr 5 2005, 11:35 AM
gpurcell QUOTE (tedstryk @ Apr 5 2005, 02:07 AM)http:/... Apr 5 2005, 06:47 PM
BruceMoomaw I'm looking into this matter myself -- I suspe... Apr 5 2005, 07:02 PM
cIclops edit: oops nothing to read here now, i see sunspot... Apr 21 2005, 07:56 PM
Sunspot http://www.planetary.org/news/2005/deep_im...mpel1... Apr 27 2005, 11:13 PM
cIclops Nasa Mission News
now just 68 days to impact Apr 28 2005, 08:22 AM
edstrick "Too Cheap" can compromize you till you ... Apr 28 2005, 09:23 AM
BruceMoomaw Jeffrey Bell (the one at the U. of Hawaii) certain... Apr 28 2005, 04:32 PM
Sunspot http://www.eso.org/outreach/press-rel/pr-2005/pr-1... May 30 2005, 10:59 PM
Sunspot http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/.../5053... May 31 2005, 10:19 AM
Sunspot Jun. 9 -- Deep Impact Briefing - NASA TV
10 a.m. ... Jun 3 2005, 11:09 PM
maycm New report on the HRI
http://www.space.com/missi... Jun 10 2005, 12:49 PM
Decepticon When will science observation start? Jun 21 2005, 11:48 PM
alan Deep impact detects comet nucleus
http://www.newsd... Jun 22 2005, 03:39 AM
edstrick The Ranger 7-9 moon probes were each transmitting ... Jun 22 2005, 07:36 AM
djellison It's going to be a bit like NEAR in a way isnt... Jun 22 2005, 09:19 AM
BruceMoomaw Keep in mind also that that camera is going to get... Jun 22 2005, 10:40 PM
Comga The images will be sub-frame towards the end.
Not... Jun 23 2005, 07:22 AM
abalone QUOTE (Comga @ Jun 23 2005, 06:22 PM)If memor... Jun 23 2005, 08:10 AM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (abalone @ Jun 23 2005, 09:10 AM)There ... Jun 23 2005, 02:17 PM
edstrick Giotto *LOST* the periscope during the flyby.
Duri... Jun 23 2005, 08:19 AM
edstrick Comet dust seems to be made of stuff that's ci... Jun 23 2005, 06:28 PM
helvick Just to put the problem of "cometary dust... Jun 23 2005, 08:20 PM
djellison a 1 gramme clod at 11000 m/s is like a car hitting... Jun 23 2005, 07:18 PM
helvick Don't know why I was rabbitting on about 70km/... Jun 23 2005, 08:42 PM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (helvick @ Jun 23 2005, 09:42 PM)Don... Jun 23 2005, 09:58 PM
BruceMoomaw Both Giotto and Stardust got clouted by several pa... Jun 23 2005, 11:54 PM
edstrick The 70 km/sec bit was the very rough figure for Gi... Jun 24 2005, 12:17 AM
Marcel Something else: I wil try to take a look what happ... Jun 24 2005, 11:50 AM

odave Take a look at the Griffith Observatory page:
... Jun 24 2005, 01:37 PM

Marcel QUOTE (odave @ Jun 24 2005, 01:37 PM)Take a l... Jun 27 2005, 07:19 AM

odave I'm shut out too, Tempel 1 will be below my ho... Jun 27 2005, 01:44 PM
abalone QUOTE (edstrick @ Jun 24 2005, 11:17 AM)The 7... Jun 24 2005, 03:23 PM
Toma B Can someone tell me why all images taken so far ar... Jun 24 2005, 02:37 PM
dvandorn QUOTE (Toma B @ Jun 24 2005, 09:37 AM)Can som... Jun 24 2005, 04:09 PM
4th rock from the sun Hi,
Image contrast will suffer from the deconvolu... Jun 25 2005, 01:24 AM
Comga QUOTE (4th rock from the sun @ Jun 24 2005, 0... Jun 27 2005, 02:57 AM
lyford Hope this isn't a repost (I skimmed the topic ... Jun 26 2005, 05:16 PM
Gsnorgathon QUOTE (Deep Impact Animation page)Using optical me... Jun 26 2005, 10:09 PM
volcanopele QUOTE (Gsnorgathon @ Jun 26 2005, 03:09 PM)I ... Jun 27 2005, 06:19 PM
alan Gas jets shoot from Deep Impact’s target
Plumes o... Jun 27 2005, 04:21 PM
BruceMoomaw Yeah, it is a worry -- they had a lot of trouble, ... Jun 27 2005, 09:11 PM
edstrick What is the phase angle on the approach to the com... Jun 28 2005, 02:44 AM
BruceMoomaw It now seems that fdeep Impact's second destin... Jun 29 2005, 06:16 PM
dilo MRI gallery of last week images:
And a false colo... Jul 3 2005, 07:13 AM
SFJCody QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jun 29 2005, 06:16 PM)It... Jul 3 2005, 08:01 AM
BruceMoomaw Unfortunately, I was told a couple of years ago by... Jul 3 2005, 08:33 AM
SFJCody QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jul 3 2005, 08:33 AM)Unf... Jul 3 2005, 08:44 AM
Sunspot JPL and the Deep Impact site have a link for viewi... Jul 3 2005, 08:47 AM
edstrick I continue to be somewhat astonished by Stardust n... Jul 3 2005, 08:57 AM
djellison Well - the difference between having a sensible ma... Jul 3 2005, 09:47 AM
edstrick We've lost missions, recent example being DART... Jul 3 2005, 10:12 AM
BruceMoomaw Brownlee told me they had taken into account the p... Jul 3 2005, 10:39 AM
edstrick I'm wondering what the magnitude of the burn t... Jul 3 2005, 11:09 AM
abalone QUOTE (edstrick @ Jul 3 2005, 10:09 PM)I... Jul 3 2005, 01:28 PM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (edstrick @ Jul 3 2005, 12:09 PM)Marine... Jul 4 2005, 04:19 PM
djellison And you dont want to do it too early - because you... Jul 3 2005, 01:44 PM
Myran It impacted! Hurray hurray! And happy july... Jul 4 2005, 03:27 PM
edstrick There's orbit info in the JPL TR series final ... Jul 4 2005, 08:31 PM
jaredGalen Just threw this together to give myself a bit of a... Jul 4 2005, 09:07 PM
jaredGalen Teased some more detail from on the great image of... Jul 4 2005, 09:31 PM
um3k An animation made from an impactor image and a dec... Jul 4 2005, 09:52 PM
4th rock from the sun A mosaic of several impactor images.
It's a li... Jul 4 2005, 10:00 PM
edstrick This evening, I grabbed "tif" versions o... Jul 5 2005, 06:52 AM
edstrick These images are press-released and enhanced versi... Jul 5 2005, 07:02 AM
edstrick Pia02130 is a cleaned up but not deconvolved hirez... Jul 5 2005, 07:24 AM![]() ![]() |
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