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cIclops
post Jan 29 2005, 12:17 PM
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An overlooked mission yet one that will be the focus of media attention in 155 days from now on July 4 2005, so there's time left to post a message before impact smile.gif

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post Jul 5 2005, 07:24 AM
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Pia02130 is a cleaned up but not deconvolved hirez camera image of the impact. The enhanced version clearly shows the defocused blur pattern of the high contrast sun-facing wall of the sharp depression at the terminator. The picture is badly out of focus, but at least this file does not have JPG artifacts introduced before it was turned into the TIF I downloaded.

The images is labled "Moment of Impact". The caption says, in part:

"When NASA's Deep Impact probe collided with Tempel 1, a bright, small flash was created, which rapidly expanded above the surface of the comet. This flash lasted for more than a second. Its overall brightness is close to that predicted by several models. After the initial flash, there was a pause before a bright plume quickly extended above the comet surface. The debris from the impact eventually cast a long shadow across the surface, indicating a narrow plume of ejected material, rather than a wide cone."

In the enhancement, the bright part of the flash is *NOT* saturated in the press release image, and has a very well defined sharp edge, beyond which there is diffuse glow which progressively gets fainter beyond the edge. I cannot tell if the edge is real, or an artifact of the imaging system or data processing, but if it's real, it's clearly an important feature of the expanding plasma and vapor cloud.

Low contrast mottled features are visible within the edge of the bright spot, in particular, there is a dark smudge at the bottom of the ejecta plume's shadow, apparently shadow visible through the bright "blob". The ejecta plume is not itself at all clearly visible or recognizable. Of particular interest, not otherwise noted yet that I've seen.. the shadow is *DOUBLE*.. with a darker portion on the right, and parallel to it a fainter portion on the left. This *might* suggest an irregular, maybe keyhole shaped hole punched in the surface layer of the comet with the high angle early ejecta emerging in a double plume.

I've tried enhancing later post-impact images. In the versions on the planetary photojournal, the brighter portions of the eject plume are saturated and contain no detail. Elswhere, there are strong vertical stripe and some horizontal stripe artifacts that have not been cleaned up from the totally raw data before the images were deconvolved, and they really degrade the enhancement. Image Pia02123 is the best of the 4 (2 of the 4 are the same data). The ejecta streamers are not perfectly radial to one point, but they do converge on a not-saturated part of the image just above a main saturated area and to the left of a smaller saturated bright spot. Texture is faintly visible in this area behind the strong vertical and several horizontal stripes from the camera artifacts, but no feature I'm inclined to interpret as a crater is evident above the noise and artifact level.
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- cIclops   Deep Impact   Jan 29 2005, 12:17 PM
- - Decepticon   Does annyone know if DI has any plans after primar...   Feb 1 2005, 01:03 AM
- - cIclops   Good question. After data playback DI will be a fu...   Feb 1 2005, 08:18 AM
- - tedstryk   I have heard talk about trying to send it to at le...   Feb 1 2005, 10:47 AM
- - djellison   I'm sure it'll get that funding - a pre la...   Feb 1 2005, 02:06 PM
- - tedstryk   Lets hope DI has 8 years to explore many comets...   Feb 1 2005, 03:22 PM
- - Decepticon   Looks like great news! Thanks for the updates...   Feb 5 2005, 03:24 AM
- - djellison   I wonder if DI's done any Earht Observations a...   Feb 5 2005, 03:54 PM
- - tedstryk   I remember reading it would. But whether it will ...   Feb 5 2005, 05:35 PM
- - DEChengst   QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 5 2005, 03:54 PM)I won...   Feb 5 2005, 05:54 PM
- - djellison   They recovered from that safing very quickly - and...   Feb 5 2005, 09:32 PM
- - cIclops   There is a neat DI simulator available at http://n...   Feb 7 2005, 02:34 PM
- - cIclops   1st trajectory correction maneuver (TCM) performed...   Feb 12 2005, 09:42 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   (1) The DI people have been considering a follow-...   Feb 14 2005, 10:28 AM
- - OWW   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Feb 14 2005, 10:28 AM)(2...   Mar 6 2005, 09:53 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   It appears that Deep Impact is suffering from a re...   Jun 11 2005, 04:16 PM
|- - dilo   Tempel-1 pictured with Medium Resolution Imager (M...   Jun 15 2005, 11:52 PM
|- - jamescanvin   QUOTE (dilo @ Jun 16 2005, 09:52 AM)A sad que...   Jun 16 2005, 12:21 AM
|- - dilo   Thanks James, I completely missed it (hope this wi...   Jun 16 2005, 01:47 AM
|- - Comga   To be precise, the neucleus and coma images will b...   Jun 21 2005, 06:33 AM
|- - dilo   Tank you very much, comga! I understand that ...   Jun 21 2005, 09:36 PM
|- - Comga   QUOTE (dilo @ Jun 21 2005, 03:36 PM)I underst...   Jun 22 2005, 06:34 AM
|- - Comga   You can also look at the JPL site http://deepimpa...   Jun 22 2005, 06:51 AM
|- - dilo   Thanks again, Comga! About compression, I made...   Jun 22 2005, 04:45 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   Judging from the Giotto dust impact experience (it...   Jun 22 2005, 07:58 PM
- - cIclops   Thanks for the image ObsessedWithWorlds, it's ...   Mar 6 2005, 12:46 PM
- - cIclops   Only 100 days to impact and still no update from t...   Mar 25 2005, 04:08 PM
- - Sunspot   QUOTE (cIclops @ Mar 25 2005, 04:08 PM)Only 1...   Mar 25 2005, 04:15 PM
- - cIclops   From Deep Impact Mission Status 03.25.05 the goo...   Mar 26 2005, 08:11 AM
|- - dot.dk   QUOTE (cIclops @ Mar 26 2005, 08:11 AM)...   Mar 26 2005, 08:58 AM
|- - DEChengst   QUOTE (dot.dk @ Mar 26 2005, 08:58 AM)QUOTE (...   Mar 26 2005, 11:25 AM
|- - DEChengst   QUOTE (dot.dk @ Mar 26 2005, 08:58 AM)Oh dear...   Mar 26 2005, 11:27 AM
- - Roby72   The image of Jupiter taken with the HRI looked uns...   Mar 26 2005, 07:50 PM
|- - tedstryk   http://aviationnow.ecnext.com/free-scripts...rticl...   Apr 5 2005, 02:07 AM
|- - Marcel   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Apr 5 2005, 02:07 AM)http:/...   Apr 5 2005, 11:35 AM
|- - gpurcell   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Apr 5 2005, 02:07 AM)http:/...   Apr 5 2005, 06:47 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   I'm looking into this matter myself -- I suspe...   Apr 5 2005, 07:02 PM
- - cIclops   edit: oops nothing to read here now, i see sunspot...   Apr 21 2005, 07:56 PM
- - Sunspot   http://www.planetary.org/news/2005/deep_im...mpel1...   Apr 27 2005, 11:13 PM
- - cIclops   Nasa Mission News now just 68 days to impact   Apr 28 2005, 08:22 AM
- - edstrick   "Too Cheap" can compromize you till you ...   Apr 28 2005, 09:23 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Jeffrey Bell (the one at the U. of Hawaii) certain...   Apr 28 2005, 04:32 PM
- - Sunspot   http://www.eso.org/outreach/press-rel/pr-2005/pr-1...   May 30 2005, 10:59 PM
- - Sunspot   http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/.../5053...   May 31 2005, 10:19 AM
- - Sunspot   Jun. 9 -- Deep Impact Briefing - NASA TV 10 a.m. ...   Jun 3 2005, 11:09 PM
- - maycm   New report on the HRI http://www.space.com/missi...   Jun 10 2005, 12:49 PM
- - Decepticon   When will science observation start?   Jun 21 2005, 11:48 PM
- - alan   Deep impact detects comet nucleus http://www.newsd...   Jun 22 2005, 03:39 AM
- - edstrick   The Ranger 7-9 moon probes were each transmitting ...   Jun 22 2005, 07:36 AM
- - djellison   It's going to be a bit like NEAR in a way isnt...   Jun 22 2005, 09:19 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Keep in mind also that that camera is going to get...   Jun 22 2005, 10:40 PM
|- - Comga   The images will be sub-frame towards the end. Not...   Jun 23 2005, 07:22 AM
|- - abalone   QUOTE (Comga @ Jun 23 2005, 06:22 PM)If memor...   Jun 23 2005, 08:10 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (abalone @ Jun 23 2005, 09:10 AM)There ...   Jun 23 2005, 02:17 PM
- - edstrick   Giotto *LOST* the periscope during the flyby. Duri...   Jun 23 2005, 08:19 AM
- - edstrick   Comet dust seems to be made of stuff that's ci...   Jun 23 2005, 06:28 PM
|- - helvick   Just to put the problem of "cometary dust...   Jun 23 2005, 08:20 PM
- - djellison   a 1 gramme clod at 11000 m/s is like a car hitting...   Jun 23 2005, 07:18 PM
|- - helvick   Don't know why I was rabbitting on about 70km/...   Jun 23 2005, 08:42 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (helvick @ Jun 23 2005, 09:42 PM)Don...   Jun 23 2005, 09:58 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Both Giotto and Stardust got clouted by several pa...   Jun 23 2005, 11:54 PM
- - edstrick   The 70 km/sec bit was the very rough figure for Gi...   Jun 24 2005, 12:17 AM
|- - Marcel   Something else: I wil try to take a look what happ...   Jun 24 2005, 11:50 AM
||- - odave   Take a look at the Griffith Observatory page: ...   Jun 24 2005, 01:37 PM
||- - Marcel   QUOTE (odave @ Jun 24 2005, 01:37 PM)Take a l...   Jun 27 2005, 07:19 AM
||- - odave   I'm shut out too, Tempel 1 will be below my ho...   Jun 27 2005, 01:44 PM
|- - abalone   QUOTE (edstrick @ Jun 24 2005, 11:17 AM)The 7...   Jun 24 2005, 03:23 PM
- - Toma B   Can someone tell me why all images taken so far ar...   Jun 24 2005, 02:37 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (Toma B @ Jun 24 2005, 09:37 AM)Can som...   Jun 24 2005, 04:09 PM
- - 4th rock from the sun   Hi, Image contrast will suffer from the deconvolu...   Jun 25 2005, 01:24 AM
|- - Comga   QUOTE (4th rock from the sun @ Jun 24 2005, 0...   Jun 27 2005, 02:57 AM
- - lyford   Hope this isn't a repost (I skimmed the topic ...   Jun 26 2005, 05:16 PM
|- - Gsnorgathon   QUOTE (Deep Impact Animation page)Using optical me...   Jun 26 2005, 10:09 PM
|- - volcanopele   QUOTE (Gsnorgathon @ Jun 26 2005, 03:09 PM)I ...   Jun 27 2005, 06:19 PM
- - alan   Gas jets shoot from Deep Impact’s target Plumes o...   Jun 27 2005, 04:21 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Yeah, it is a worry -- they had a lot of trouble, ...   Jun 27 2005, 09:11 PM
- - edstrick   What is the phase angle on the approach to the com...   Jun 28 2005, 02:44 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   It now seems that fdeep Impact's second destin...   Jun 29 2005, 06:16 PM
|- - dilo   MRI gallery of last week images: And a false colo...   Jul 3 2005, 07:13 AM
|- - SFJCody   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jun 29 2005, 06:16 PM)It...   Jul 3 2005, 08:01 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Unfortunately, I was told a couple of years ago by...   Jul 3 2005, 08:33 AM
|- - SFJCody   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jul 3 2005, 08:33 AM)Unf...   Jul 3 2005, 08:44 AM
- - Sunspot   JPL and the Deep Impact site have a link for viewi...   Jul 3 2005, 08:47 AM
- - edstrick   I continue to be somewhat astonished by Stardust n...   Jul 3 2005, 08:57 AM
- - djellison   Well - the difference between having a sensible ma...   Jul 3 2005, 09:47 AM
- - edstrick   We've lost missions, recent example being DART...   Jul 3 2005, 10:12 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Brownlee told me they had taken into account the p...   Jul 3 2005, 10:39 AM
- - edstrick   I'm wondering what the magnitude of the burn t...   Jul 3 2005, 11:09 AM
|- - abalone   QUOTE (edstrick @ Jul 3 2005, 10:09 PM)I...   Jul 3 2005, 01:28 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (edstrick @ Jul 3 2005, 12:09 PM)Marine...   Jul 4 2005, 04:19 PM
- - djellison   And you dont want to do it too early - because you...   Jul 3 2005, 01:44 PM
- - Myran   It impacted! Hurray hurray! And happy july...   Jul 4 2005, 03:27 PM
- - edstrick   There's orbit info in the JPL TR series final ...   Jul 4 2005, 08:31 PM
|- - jaredGalen   Just threw this together to give myself a bit of a...   Jul 4 2005, 09:07 PM
|- - jaredGalen   Teased some more detail from on the great image of...   Jul 4 2005, 09:31 PM
- - um3k   An animation made from an impactor image and a dec...   Jul 4 2005, 09:52 PM
- - 4th rock from the sun   A mosaic of several impactor images. It's a li...   Jul 4 2005, 10:00 PM
- - edstrick   This evening, I grabbed "tif" versions o...   Jul 5 2005, 06:52 AM
- - edstrick   These images are press-released and enhanced versi...   Jul 5 2005, 07:02 AM
- - edstrick   Pia02130 is a cleaned up but not deconvolved hirez...   Jul 5 2005, 07:24 AM
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