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The capsule began its return to Japan a few moments ago as I write this. Seems like a good time to start a new topic for the much-anticipated final results of this epic mission.
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Jun 25 2010, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE ...organic materials on such a tiny body like Itokawa in near vacuum out in deep space in such cold temperatures. The definition of "organic molecules" are molecules with covalent bonds with carbon-carbon or carbon-nitrogen or carbon-hydrogen bonds. (see <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_compound" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_compound</a>) This definition excludes things like: CO, CO2, carbonate (anion), -CN (anion). These are all considered inorganic. Small organics include little things like: H2CO, CH4, and HCN. I'd also throw in that reactive intermediates such as: .C2. (diradical), .:CH (radical carbene), :CH2 (carbene) and .CH3 (radical) are all organic and will undergo organic reactions. [Bonus trivia: Things with organic bonds but covalently bound to a metal center are considered organometallic. Most of the chemistry fun these undergo is based on the properties of the metal center. An example is ferrocene: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrocene] It is really important to keep in mind that most organic molecules can be easily accessed by non-biotic organic chemistry. (Biochemistry is a subset of organic chemistry.) **** There was a very recent discovery of a "pretty complex" organic molecule in deep space - anthracene. Check out: http://www.physorg.com/news196334906.html Finding organics on Itokawa is not weird at all, but which compounds and how much will give interesting information on the chemistry of asteroids, solar system objects, and molecular exchanges with deep space. (Isotope ratios will be very useful.) It will be exciting to see the analysis results. Keep us posted! -------------------- Some higher resolution images available at my photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/31678681@N07/
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nprev Hayabusa Post-Landing & Science Results Jun 17 2010, 02:41 AM
Hungry4info Here's for hoping the capsule does indeed cont... Jun 17 2010, 04:23 AM
pandaneko QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Jun 17 2010, 01:23 P... Jun 19 2010, 09:26 AM
ElkGroveDan Do you have a link for that information Pandaneko? Jun 19 2010, 07:00 PM
pandaneko QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Jun 20 2010, 04:00 A... Jun 20 2010, 08:44 AM
nprev Perhaps this is unduly optimistic, but I think tha... Jun 17 2010, 12:41 PM
eoincampbell The team are confident. Is that the end of the sam... Jun 17 2010, 08:56 PM
djellison Plus, What's the November reference? The EPOXI... Jun 19 2010, 07:14 PM
pandaneko QUOTE (djellison @ Jun 20 2010, 04:14 AM)... Jun 20 2010, 08:54 AM
nprev Pandaneko, I'm not aware of any approved NASA ... Jun 20 2010, 10:22 AM
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djellison QUOTE (nprev @ Jun 20 2010, 02:22 AM) Pan... Jun 20 2010, 03:18 PM
nprev Here's a Bing translation of the Ashai article... Jun 20 2010, 07:01 PM
vjkane Here is a link to the late Bruce Moomaw's desc... Jun 20 2010, 08:01 PM
nprev Short Aviation Week article today. Highlight: It m... Jun 22 2010, 03:57 AM
pandaneko QUOTE (nprev @ Jun 22 2010, 12:57 PM) Sho... Jun 22 2010, 08:33 AM
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djellison Points 2 is heading toward the area of rule 1.2. ... Jun 22 2010, 01:17 PM
pandaneko QUOTE (djellison @ Jun 22 2010, 10:17 PM)... Jun 23 2010, 08:09 AM
ElkGroveDan You're OK pandaneko.
To clarify, the ban on... Jun 23 2010, 02:41 PM
pandaneko Dear administrators
Thanks, I am relieved and I w... Jun 24 2010, 09:02 AM
pandaneko QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Jun 23 2010, 11:41 P... Jun 26 2010, 09:40 AM
ilbasso Point 3, the distance from target, is absolutely i... Jun 22 2010, 07:47 PM
nprev Well said. The landing precision is especially imp... Jun 22 2010, 10:07 PM
pandaneko QUOTE (Juramike @ Jun 25 2010, 11:44 PM) ... Jun 27 2010, 08:29 AM
pandaneko What follows is based on my Google alert and it ha... Jul 4 2010, 02:24 PM
pandaneko QUOTE (pandaneko @ Jul 4 2010, 11:24 PM) ... Jul 4 2010, 11:25 PM
brellis That's very exciting news! thanks pandanek... Jul 4 2010, 11:56 PM
pandaneko QUOTE (brellis @ Jul 5 2010, 08:56 AM) Th... Jul 5 2010, 12:01 AM
nprev Wow!!! Exciting news indeed; thanks ve... Jul 5 2010, 12:04 AM
pandaneko Apparently, initial measures they are taking are i... Jul 5 2010, 01:23 AM
ElkGroveDan If this turns out to be true and those are asteroi... Jul 5 2010, 01:39 AM
nprev We can only hope. "Epic" is the only wor... Jul 5 2010, 01:53 AM
tasp Amazing news!
Hayabusa, the little spacecraft... Jul 5 2010, 01:59 AM
pandaneko I had a quick look at JAXA web pages, no, none abl... Jul 5 2010, 02:23 AM
pandaneko I had a quick look at all other major newspapers a... Jul 5 2010, 02:37 AM
pandaneko QUOTE (pandaneko @ Jul 5 2010, 11:37 AM) ... Jul 5 2010, 05:32 AM
pandaneko QUOTE (pandaneko @ Jul 5 2010, 02:32 PM) ... Jul 5 2010, 08:53 AM
JimOberg Post moved from Hayabusa Return to Earth thread - ... Jul 5 2010, 04:37 AM
Hungry4info pandaneko, you're doing fine.
In fact, thank ... Jul 5 2010, 10:41 AM
ustrax man...if this is true the question here is...who... Jul 5 2010, 11:57 AM
pandaneko I am a bit more upset. Even more alarming news, th... Jul 5 2010, 01:52 PM
pandaneko QUOTE (pandaneko @ Jul 5 2010, 10:52 PM) ... Jul 5 2010, 02:42 PM

pandaneko QUOTE (pandaneko @ Jul 5 2010, 11:42 PM) ... Jul 5 2010, 03:04 PM
ElkGroveDan QUOTE (pandaneko @ Jul 5 2010, 06:52 AM) ... Jul 5 2010, 04:04 PM
Stu Sorry, my fault; it rolled under my sofa while I w... Jul 5 2010, 04:06 PM
ElkGroveDan The part where they lost the lid and decided to co... Jul 5 2010, 04:19 PM
eoincampbell I hope we can get an official statement soon... th... Jul 5 2010, 08:47 PM
pandaneko QUOTE (eoincampbell @ Jul 6 2010, 05:47 A... Jul 5 2010, 11:57 PM
pandaneko QUOTE (eoincampbell @ Jul 6 2010, 05:47 A... Jul 6 2010, 02:20 AM
pandaneko 2. http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/zoom/20100705-OYT9I00... Jul 6 2010, 02:23 AM
nprev Pandaneko, don't be too distressed. In English... Jul 6 2010, 02:39 AM
ElkGroveDan Let's not forget that a significant number of ... Jul 6 2010, 03:23 AM
pandaneko QUOTE (nprev @ Jul 6 2010, 11:39 AM) Pers... Jul 6 2010, 09:03 AM

Leither BBC web page now showing JAXA picture of particles... Jul 6 2010, 12:19 PM
pandaneko QUOTE (nprev @ Jul 6 2010, 11:39 AM) Pand... Jul 6 2010, 12:30 PM
elakdawalla Here's the [Google translated] link to the sou... Jul 6 2010, 01:06 PM
MahFL Those grains look too big to have been missed befo... Jul 6 2010, 02:08 PM
pandaneko QUOTE (MahFL @ Jul 6 2010, 11:08 PM) Thos... Jul 6 2010, 03:47 PM
ElkGroveDan I agree. I am growing optimistic now. Jul 6 2010, 02:16 PM
pandaneko Futher reporting from the Mainichi newspaper here,... Jul 7 2010, 10:17 AM
Stu Sorry, for a moment there I actually thought you s... Jul 7 2010, 11:15 AM
pandaneko QUOTE (Stu @ Jul 7 2010, 08:15 PM) ... Jul 7 2010, 12:20 PM

pandaneko Other newspapers are starting to carry similar sto... Jul 7 2010, 01:26 PM

amezz QUOTE (pandaneko @ Jul 7 2010, 05:26 PM) ... Jul 7 2010, 01:49 PM


pandaneko QUOTE (amezz @ Jul 7 2010, 10:49 PM) Dear... Jul 7 2010, 02:34 PM



amezz QUOTE (pandaneko @ Jul 7 2010, 06:34 PM) ... Jul 8 2010, 07:19 AM


pandaneko QUOTE (amezz @ Jul 7 2010, 10:49 PM) Dear... Jul 8 2010, 10:17 AM


pandaneko Here below is the URL to what one newspaper report... Jul 8 2010, 11:01 AM


pandaneko QUOTE (pandaneko @ Jul 8 2010, 08:01 PM) ... Jul 8 2010, 12:05 PM

Leither QUOTE (pandaneko @ Jul 7 2010, 02:26 PM) ... Jul 7 2010, 09:51 PM

mars loon The finding of dust inside is very exciting and a ... Jul 7 2010, 11:36 PM


pandaneko According to today's Asahi Shimbun newspaper (... Jul 8 2010, 12:02 AM

pandaneko QUOTE (Leither @ Jul 8 2010, 06:51 AM) Wh... Jul 8 2010, 09:33 AM
ElkGroveDan QUOTE (Stu @ Jul 7 2010, 04:15 AM) ... Jul 7 2010, 02:25 PM
elakdawalla One assumes it was a very special spatula. Presum... Jul 7 2010, 01:56 PM
AndyG QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jul 7 2010, 02:56 PM... Jul 7 2010, 03:03 PM
djellison Who wrote 'Don't bother ... Doug'
It ... Jul 7 2010, 03:06 PM
tasp IIRC, during daylight hours on the earth's moo... Jul 7 2010, 03:09 PM
Hungry4info Good question. IIRC, the haze on the moon isn... Jul 7 2010, 03:21 PM
Ipparchus I saw that photo of the sample container and I can... Jul 7 2010, 03:21 PM
pandaneko QUOTE (Ipparchus @ Jul 8 2010, 12:21 AM) ... Jul 8 2010, 09:40 AM
MaDeR Nothing like suspense IN SPACE! Do these grain... Jul 7 2010, 04:32 PM
Stu Pandanenko,
Just wanted to say thanks for the exc... Jul 8 2010, 05:21 AM
eoincampbell Pandaneko has provided a wonderfully gripping tale... Jul 8 2010, 05:57 AM
brellis thanks for everything you're doing to help, Pa... Jul 8 2010, 07:18 AM
pandaneko I am feeling duty bound to share the exitement, re... Jul 8 2010, 08:46 AM
stevesliva QUOTE (pandaneko @ Jul 8 2010, 04:46 AM) ... Jul 8 2010, 02:41 PM
pandaneko I got this news just before falling asleep.
Appar... Jul 8 2010, 04:11 PM
pandaneko I am getting a bit weary of uploading my stuff one... Jul 9 2010, 12:43 PM
fredk QUOTE (pandaneko @ Jul 9 2010, 01:43 PM) ... Jul 9 2010, 03:22 PM
Stu Don't feel weary; you're our window on thi... Jul 9 2010, 12:50 PM
ElkGroveDan Yes, Thanks again pandaneko. ElkGroveNeko thanks ... Jul 9 2010, 02:44 PM
Drkskywxlt How much science can they realistically get out of... Jul 9 2010, 03:26 PM
Hungry4info I read that even if one grain was found, it could ... Jul 9 2010, 03:40 PM
Drkskywxlt QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Jul 9 2010, 11:40 AM... Jul 9 2010, 03:47 PM
Juramike Even for just running a mass spect sample, there a... Jul 9 2010, 04:38 PM![]() ![]() |
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