My Assistant
Site Message
  |
On to Santa Maria! |
 Dec 6 2010, 08:05 PM
Post
#361
|
||
 Senior Member  Group: Moderator Posts: 2262 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Melbourne - Oz Member No.: 16  |
Not totally sure of the ID's here. I don't really want to start a nearside/farside debate, but I think we can see the near rim on the right and the far rim on the left.
Attached thumbnail(s)
-------------------- |
|
 |
 
|
|
|
Dec 6 2010, 08:08 PM
Post
#362
|
|
|
Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10255 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
I think you're right, James. And the crater rim is probably tilted away from us as well so the far side will not be visible until we are closer.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PDF: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
|
|
|
|
Dec 6 2010, 10:22 PM
Post
#363
|
|
 Member Group: Members Posts: 578 Joined: 5-November 04 From: Denmark Member No.: 107 |
Some tweets from Scott
 QUOTE Don't wanna jinx it, but at this rate, ETA at Santa Maria is early next week. It's 676m away now. And QUOTE Next drive: ~ 120m slightly south of east to Salyut Crater. Might drive a bit past it, but I promise to image on the way That drive is tosol 
-------------------- "I want to make as many people as possible feel like they are part of this adventure. We are going to give everybody a sense of what exploring the surface of another world is really like"
- Steven Squyres |
|
|
|
|
Dec 6 2010, 10:48 PM
Post
#364
|
|
 Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3516 Joined: 4-November 05 From: North Wales Member No.: 542 |
Here's a question for the geologists. We hear that the nearest clay minerals may be not too far ahead. What is the role of the Santa Maria impact in this? Are the clays expected to be a few metres down over much of this area so that a relatively recent impact might have dug some up, or is Santa Maria irrelevant to the quest for clays?
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 7 2010, 12:36 AM
Post
#365
|
|
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 940 Joined: 4-September 06 From: Boston Member No.: 1102 |
I'm not sure they saw clays near Santa Maria, but rather sulfates and other water containing minerals. I may not have the details exactly correct. I think the end of the month summary of what's been going on at the Planetary Society describes this.
-------------------- |
|
|
|
|
Dec 7 2010, 01:24 AM
Post
#366
|
|
 Senior Member Group: Admin Posts: 4763 Joined: 15-March 05 From: Glendale, AZ Member No.: 197 |
QUOTE (ngunn @ Dec 6 2010, 02:48 PM)  Are the clays expected to be a few metres down over much of this area so that a relatively recent impact might have dug some up, or is Santa Maria irrelevant to the quest for clays? The clays are understood to be very old. This area of Meridiani and the layers below it (therefore all of Santa Maria's ejecta) are much younger than the uplifted formations that make up the Endurance rim where the clays have been identified. There is no expectation that any clays would be in the vicinity of Santa Maria. -------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 7 2010, 02:30 PM
Post
#367
|
||
|
Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 4280 Joined: 19-April 05 From: .br at .es Member No.: 253 |
If the "telemetry" is correct, Salyut crater should be visible on the fhazcam pictures.
Edit: Mmm, no.   http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...8TP1205L0M1.JPG |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 7 2010, 02:51 PM
Post
#368
|
|
|
Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3516 Joined: 4-November 05 From: North Wales Member No.: 542 |
There's a really prominent dark spot on the near rim in today's navcams. Could it be one of Stu's rover-sized boulders?
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportuni...8WP0653L0M1.JPG |
|
|
|
|
Dec 7 2010, 02:56 PM
Post
#369
|
|
 Member Group: Members Posts: 571 Joined: 20-April 05 From: Silesia Member No.: 299 |
QUOTE (ngunn @ Dec 7 2010, 03:51 PM) Could it be one of Stu's rover-sized boulders? Without a doubt, absolutely yes. -------------------- Free software for planetary science (including Cassini Image Viewer).
http://members.tripod.com/petermasek/marinerall.html |
|
|
|
|
Dec 7 2010, 03:57 PM
Post
#370
|
|
|
Senior Member Group: Admin Posts: 4763 Joined: 15-March 05 From: Glendale, AZ Member No.: 197 |
Stu, what have we told you about leaving your boulders lying about? Now go clean up your crater before Santa hears about this.
-------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 7 2010, 04:22 PM
Post
#371
|
|
 The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwww, man!!! It's not FAIR!!!
 None of you minded when I rolled Wopmay into Endurance, did you? Just because it looked like a dinosaur brain you were all like "Ooh, what a cool rock!" You want those boulders moved, YOU move them. 
-------------------- |
|
|
|
|
Dec 7 2010, 06:29 PM
Post
#372
|
|
 Member Group: Members Posts: 206 Joined: 15-August 07 From: Shrewsbury, Shropshire Member No.: 3233 |
QUOTE (Stu @ Dec 7 2010, 04:22 PM) None of you minded when I rolled Wopmay into Endurance, did you? Just because it looked like a dinosaur brain you were all like "Ooh, what a cool rock!" I well remember Jeff Favretto's daily rover report in which he said "Wompay looks like a brain. IT IS NOT A BRAIN OF COURSE". Jeff was worried that he might be starting a new silly theory.  I thought I was the only person who remembered that he used the word "brain", but obviously you did too.
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 7 2010, 07:12 PM
Post
#373
|
|
|
Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14445 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
IN one of his lectures, I'm sure Steve used the phrase 'Petrified Dinosaur Brain' to, in jest, describe Wopmay.
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 7 2010, 08:46 PM
Post
#374
|
|
|
The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
-------------------- |
|
|
|
|
Dec 7 2010, 08:56 PM
Post
#375
|
|
|
The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Now that's more like it...
http://twitpic.com/3dv1ll/full Boulders and rocks visible around the crater, and detail on the far wall too? -------------------- |
|
|
|
|
|
Lo-Fi Version | Time is now: 26th October 2024 - 02:08 PM |
|
RULES AND GUIDELINES Please read the Forum Rules and Guidelines before posting. IMAGE COPYRIGHT |
OPINIONS AND MODERATION Opinions expressed on UnmannedSpaceflight.com are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of UnmannedSpaceflight.com or The Planetary Society. The all-volunteer UnmannedSpaceflight.com moderation team is wholly independent of The Planetary Society. The Planetary Society has no influence over decisions made by the UnmannedSpaceflight.com moderators. |
SUPPORT THE FORUM Unmannedspaceflight.com is funded by the Planetary Society. Please consider supporting our work and many other projects by donating to the Society or becoming a member. |
|
