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Tesheiner
post Apr 27 2006, 08:24 AM
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Well, not quite. It's close, but I don't understand the discrepency between the distances I get from the tracking data and that on your map.


I think one reason may be the map scale --- there was a discussion on this issue a long time ago (it should be somewhere here on the forum). This one is assumed to be at 0.5m/pix but I'm not 100% convinced of that.

Another obvious reason is the unaccuracy of my measurements. smile.gif
On those moves between two outcrop fields I usually use parallax to calculate the net driving distance and those measurements may include errors. In addition, those errors are cumulative on subsequent moves.
The big difference with Spirit map (imo) is that the outcrops give a good way to recover from those measurement errors because it's quite easy to compare a polar projection of a nav/pancam mosaic with the base map and find a "best fit" position on it. Anyhow, this "best fit" is a bit subjective and error prone. The advantage is that it is not affected from errors on previous sols estimations; it can even be used to correct the previous ones.

An example with the "best fit" estimation for sol 801 position:

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post Apr 27 2006, 12:23 PM
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Route map, updated to sol 802.

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Rocky terrain for the next 50+ meters.
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post Apr 27 2006, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Apr 27 2006, 01:23 PM) *
Rocky terrain for the next 50+ meters.
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I like the irony of the orbital recon leading the assumption that the etched terrain was unsuitabe for roving and the plains being better, when in fact the opposite is, to a large extent, true.

Aaaahhh photo-geology from orbit, don't ya love it biggrin.gif
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post Apr 27 2006, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Apr 27 2006, 06:24 PM) *
I think one reason may be the map scale --- there was a discussion on this issue a long time ago (it should be somewhere here on the forum). This one is assumed to be at 0.5m/pix but I'm not 100% convinced of that.


I don't think that is a problem, I can't see any obvious scaling or rotation to improve the match.

QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Apr 27 2006, 06:24 PM) *
Another obvious reason is the unaccuracy of my measurements. smile.gif


I'm not so sure this is a problem either, your positions look good to me (wrt the outcrops) smile.gif

It may be there is no real problem, I think I need to compare more maps. I'll get back to you...

James


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post Apr 27 2006, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Apr 27 2006, 09:55 AM) *
What's interesting about this map is it shows the different driving techniques. The 'solid line' of red points shows autonav regions (around 1m between each point) and the more widely spaced points (with yellow lines between) where they are more confident of the terrain (near the start of the sol) and are doing 6-10m (blind) drives before checking for slippage etc.


Just imagine what could be done with a better base map and an automated process to extract the route points from the tracking web... blink.gif


QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Apr 27 2006, 03:39 PM) *
It may be there is no real problem, I think I need to compare more maps. I'll get back to you...


There is another possible issue with the maps.
If you compare the images I use on my route map (R15-00822 and R22-00640) they simply don't fit each other 100%, and it's not an issue of scaling or rotation. The reason is that MGS doesn't take a due vertical shot but at an angle, and those two images were taken at different positions. It's the same as trying to fit two images of a stereo pair; they won't.
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post Apr 28 2006, 12:57 AM
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QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Apr 27 2006, 11:49 PM) *
Just imagine what could be done with a better base map and an automated process to extract the route points from the tracking web... blink.gif


Indeed blink.gif

QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Apr 27 2006, 11:49 PM) *
There is another possible issue with the maps.
If you compare the images I use on my route map (R15-00822 and R22-00640) they simply don't fit each other 100%, and it's not an issue of scaling or rotation. The reason is that MGS doesn't take a due vertical shot but at an angle, and those two images were taken at different positions. It's the same as trying to fit two images of a stereo pair; they won't.


That's true, I hadn't thought of that, thanks.

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post Apr 28 2006, 04:02 AM
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OK i've done a bit more work on this.

Attached is an overlay of all the locations listed on the tracking site on Tesheiner's route map back to sol 775 - this covers 3 'sites' 67, 68 & 69 which are added and matched to the map seperately (it's not one continuous line) there are a couple of interesting things to note:

1) The fit to Tesheiner's route line is very good showing what we already new - what a great job he's doing smile.gif
I find it incredibly hard looking at all these outcrops and trying to figure out whats going on!

2) For two of the three 'sites' I had to rotate my route by around 3 degrees to get it to match with Tesheiner's map following the ground features (I'm not sure about the third). This got me thinking, MGS's orbit is inclided at about 93 degrees and so when crossing the equator at Meridiani will be traveling at 3 degrees from north/south and as it uses a 'brush broom' camera this will be the orientation of the image pixels.

My question is, has that been accounted for on this map, or is north really 3 degrees away from 'up'? Which would make a lot of sense compared to what i'm getting from the data tracking data!

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post Apr 28 2006, 11:23 AM
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Route map, updated to sol 803.

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QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Apr 28 2006, 06:02 AM) *
My question is, has that been accounted for on this map, or is north really 3 degrees away from 'up'? Which would make a lot of sense compared to what i'm getting from the data tracking data!


The map is the "map-projected" version of R15-00822.
I did another analysis based on the heading to that crater just at the borded of the ejecta blanket. I compared the heading derived from the pancam images (data tracking data) with the heading derived from the route map (map data), and they are aprox. 1 degree off.
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post Apr 28 2006, 12:26 PM
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Great route maps. The route that Oppy is travelling coincides with your proposed route, which makes sense since your proposed route is reasonable. I think that Oppy will arrive at the ejecta blanket at that fresh crater at the border; this makes sense since that crater wil provide an excellent preview of the shallow subsurface and a closeup view of parts of the Victoria rim strata that we cannot easily view closely.

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post Apr 28 2006, 09:10 PM
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I'm just at the beginning of a loooong weekend; besides the May 1st holiday I'll take the 2nd & 3rd too.
So no route map updates, at least from my side, until thursday.

(time to finish packing things on the caravan...)
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post Apr 29 2006, 01:25 AM
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We'll take care of things. I've not done much since I've been in such agreement with your route maps that I've not been able to add much. Have a good holiday!

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post May 2 2006, 09:48 PM
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Here is my estimate of Oppys position for sol 807 based on the pancam tracking data.

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post May 3 2006, 09:43 PM
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And again for Sol 808

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post May 3 2006, 11:06 PM
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Hola Tesheiner! You missed 5 sols... pero me parece que no faltaba sol en espana cool.gif
James did very well indeed : he put Oppy back on YOUR track so, one more week holiday for you must be fine smile.gif


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QUOTE (jamescanvin @ May 3 2006, 11:43 AM) *
And again for Sol 808

James

Well done, JC, looks like we are very close to the halfway point to the hem of Victoria's apron. (Or should we call it her robe-of-state? wink.gif )
Tell us when we reach that milestone so we can all have a nice cup of tea to celebrate. rolleyes.gif


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