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[mhoward]

Hmmm...Actually, how about a truly 3D mahjongg, using cubical tiles. Imagine trying to remember what's going on with 6 different sides!

You mean a different tile art on each side? Wow! What a concept!

[elakdawalla]

OM images are starting to come down the pipeline on the Phoenix website, but it doesn't look like MMB is renaming them -- does anyone else get the same behavior?

--Emily

[slinted]

The issue may be malformed tags in the headers. The OM images that started showing up on the raw site have duplicate quotes:

CODE

PRODUCT_ID =""OS057EFF901264061_164E0MBM1"
"
FRAME_ID = ""MONO"
"
FRAME_TYPE = "MONO
"

[CosmicRocker]

I'm not seeing them in my "renamed" directory, either. I first noticed something was odd last night when I looked at the .csv file for metadata for the OMs of sol 58. The file has only 23 OM metadata records, 22 from sol 4 and 1 from sol 51. Good catch, slinted. I'm no programmer, but I can imagine how that extra quote could mess things up.

[jamescanvin]

Hi Mike,

Just been setting up my shiny new iMac.

And of course the first thing (no joke) I did was try and install MMB. However I can't seem to get the intel OSX binary to download properly. I've since tried it on another machine and still get the same problem.

James

[mhoward]

Hmmm. I tried downloading it here and it worked fine. Maybe having a problem with the download terminating early? Could it be an internet issue?

[jamescanvin]

I guess so, it was downloading very slowly and although I tried it on multiple machines it was on the same internet connection, seems to work fine from work this morning (and lyford was kind enough to mirror a copy, thanks). I'll now email it to myself at home just to be sure.

James

[briv1016]

The images off of Exploratorium haven’t been loading for a while now. I went to the website and the images are there. Is this a coding problem with Exploratorium or MMB.

Or is it just my computer.

[jamescanvin]

Not working for me either. On both Windows and Mac version.

[mhoward]

You're right - it's not working. It's somewhat surprising to me at this stage of the game, but it looks like Exploratorium has made minor changes to their HTML code, and MMB is no longer parsing it correctly.

I'll fix this for version 2.0, probably today. But I'm afraid this spells the death of MMB 1.x. I don't remember how to build 1.x anymore, and don't have time to reverse-engineer the process.

[mhoward]

A 2.0.1 update is now available through the update software feature. This fixes the new incompatibility with Exploratorium.

Please note that Exploratorium apparently re-posted most of Opportunity's microscopic images on 8/26/2008. To avoid downloading all those images, go to Update->Advanced Update Images..., choose Update Images from "Exploratorium", put in 08/27/2008 for the start date, then click ok to update. After that update completes, things should work fine.

I've updated Google Code with the binaries as well, but I've run out of space there, so only the Windows version and the Mac on Intel versions are posted; Mac on PowerPC is not. I'll have to either get more space there or (more likely) just start putting the files somewhere else. I don't think many people use the Mac on PowerPC version.

I hope we're good to go now, since Oppy is off to see new sites...

[elakdawalla]

Mike, Doug: How did this problem relate to the problem of Exploratorium being down? I made a couple of inquiries about that -- should I send emails saying the problem has been resolved?

--Emily

[mhoward]

Mike, Doug: How did this problem relate to the problem of Exploratorium being down? I made a couple of inquiries about that -- should I send emails saying the problem has been resolved?

I'm not sure what happened. Technically speaking, the problem for MMB is that suddenly the "HREF" tags in their HTML code are now lowercase instead of uppercase. They've been uppercase for the lifetime of the project, and I don't know why it would change now - but still, ultimately it's not a problem with their web pages, it's just a problem for MMB. MMB 2.0.1 can handle it, so people will just have to update, and I'd say the problem is basically resolved, as far as I know.

[djellison]

There was an upgrade, I think, from 10.2 to 10.5 on the server. Not sure if/how they might impact it - but stuff has been changed - it wasn't just 'down' and then 'up' again.

[djellison]

Just done an MMB update - I think Mike's got it sorted.

(There are 2728 new Opportunity images at Exploratorium.)

I know how horrible and time-consuming it is to revisit an old IT project that you thought you'd left behind - so kudos to Mike for doing so.