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AmateurSpaceImages.com, A site to gather great amateur-processed space images
djellison
post Dec 15 2010, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE (ZLD @ Dec 15 2010, 12:12 PM) *
Forgive my ignorance, but outside of photographing objects with your own camera, is it even possible to copyright images you have only composited from something such as the PDS? Maybe I'm just confused and assuming most are not talking about composite images.



The creation of mosaics, composites, anaglyphs, projections and other treatments of raw data constitute the creation of an original work - and as such the copyright for this derived imagery lies with the individual who created it. Copyright does not have to be explicitly stated to be enforcable.

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post Dec 15 2010, 10:00 PM
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' Copyright does not have to be explicitly stated to be enforcable.'

The copyright status should be explicitly shown on the work, especially on line. This will help prevent confusion by others in the status of such derived works compared to the original material. If one wants to be in a more practical position to enforce copyright it has to be registered. It is much easier to do this now in the digital age:

http://www.copyright.gov/
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post Dec 15 2010, 10:08 PM
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Oh - I totally agree - it makes perfect sense to include a copyright .

Might an appropriate compromise be to say that imagery hosted at ASI is available for use under the CC licence unless otherwise stated (see individual images for details)
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post Dec 15 2010, 10:16 PM
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Well, from a coding standpoint, I'd planned to put the CC license in the page footer. But I think I'm hearing that that'd be unacceptable to people. So I think instead what would be better is for the submission form to have an option, to choose that the work be copyrighted, or that it be posted under the CC license, and for copyrighted images I'd put an extra line under the image credit. Are those two options sufficient? What should the copyright notice say? "© [COPYRIGHT HOLDER], all rights reserved."?


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post Dec 15 2010, 10:21 PM
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Might an appropriate compromise be to say that imagery hosted at ASI is available for use under the CC licence unless otherwise stated (see individual images for details)

now that makes a lot of sense

for non-commercial most are happy with just there name referenced on a image used for some other thing
for commercial use - let the individual decide on that .
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post Dec 15 2010, 10:27 PM
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" [COPYRIGHT HOLDER], all rights reserved."

Looks good.

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post Dec 16 2010, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE (DDAVIS @ Dec 15 2010, 10:27 PM) *
" [COPYRIGHT HOLDER], all rights reserved."

Looks good.

-DD-

Along with some means by which those interested in using the image can contact the copyright holder.


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post Dec 16 2010, 03:54 PM
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I agree with Ted.

I've contacted through and been contacted by flickr mail for graphic preparations many times. Having some mechanism of getting in touch with the author is incredibly useful.

Some of the other functionalities of flickr might be kinda useful, too. (favorites, visual location tags, comments?)





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post Dec 16 2010, 05:19 PM
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Comments are already planned to be included, but favorites would require a user login system, which we aren't planning to implement. I've had others suggest a rating system though, which might be useful and wouldn't require user login -- but only if you can sort search results on rating. We are planning to have "featured images" that would change regularly, with the featured images being chosen by moderators, and the system will remember which images have been featured in the past so that you can promote them to the top of the search results. The home page will show the featured image and smaller thumbnails of recent featured images. We are planning on storing an email address with the image, which can be used to contact the image submitter.


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post Dec 16 2010, 09:20 PM
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A question for people interested in copyright. One of the elements I want to include is embed code so that people can post the image in their blogs, with a link back to the detail page on AmateurSpaceImages.com. The embed code will include the image as well as a title and a credit line (including copyright) in text format. People can obviously delete this if they choose before posting, but at least the starting state would be to include the correct credit. Don, Ted, is it OK for people to share reduced-resolution versions of images in their blogs, linking back to this website, without contacting you first? I suppose I could ask for the embed code option to be disabled when the submitter has chosen to reserve rights, but I'll admit I'm not very excited about doing that...

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post Dec 17 2010, 12:10 AM
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I like to know, but that is fine so long as credit is given and it is noncommercial use.


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post Dec 17 2010, 01:09 AM
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' Don, Ted, is it OK for people to share reduced-resolution versions of images in their blogs, linking back to this website, without contacting you first?'

I don't care if people want to grab images for non commercial use which doesn't conflict with my concerns as content creator.
People should ideally ask first when wanting them for blog articles, including contact info for the originators will facilitate this. I love to provide images to share my enthusiasm for the subject, as well as to make a living. I might not want my work used to promote some anomolist cause, for instance, but if I care enough about such things I will register the copyright. A visible notice in the work will go a long way, that separates the 'wheat from the chaff' in the apparent ethics of people looking for images.
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Just a quick note to tell everyone that we've got our design nailed down for AmateurSpaceImages.com and are proceeding to development; we're still on track to have development completed in March. Based on the concerns raised in this thread, image processors will be able to specify that they reserve copyright or that they are providing the image under a Creative Commons license.

I am now trying to amass a starter database of images that'll go live with the site in March. If you'd like to see your images on the site when it goes live, please contact me at blog@planetary.org and I'll discuss with you how to document them.


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post Mar 13 2011, 05:34 AM
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I had a thought about a category of images for the new web site that I think would be interesting to all the UMSF members. I guess it would be a "Best of UMSF" gallery. The UMSF forum keeps a record of how many times each posted image is viewed by readers. Why not create a ranked gallery of the 100 most viewed images of the forum? I think it would be fascinating.

If people like that idea, there are other variations that could be used; like the most viewed rover, Cassini, HiRise images, etc. unsure.gif


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post Mar 14 2011, 12:34 PM
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This all looks very exciting - lots of lovely images to look at!
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