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Dawn approaches Vesta, Approach phase, 3 May to 16 July 2011 |
 May 3 2011, 03:44 PM
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Jun 2 2011, 04:26 AM
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I remember when Pioneer 10 flew past Jupiter, almost 40 years ago. I'd eagerly waited a year and a half for it, but the released pics in the papers were awfully poor--worse than pics from ground-based telescopes. I had to wait almost two months for a Sky and Telescope issue that showed the beautiful photos, blowing away anything ever seen from the ground.
Voyager was a little better because I was at Caltech during the Saturn flybys (thirty years ago) and JPL set up monitors all over campus so we could watch the raw footage. The quality was so poor, though, that I was stunned when I saw the beautiful published prints--again, a month or two later. Twenty years ago, when the first Hubble servicing mission reported great new photos, I used the Internet to find those pics on NASA's site. It was the first time I used the Internet for anything but e-mail, and I was blown away to see such beautiful pics within days of the mission. Still, it was just a handful of carefully selected and processed pics. I think it's been about a decade now that space probes have routinely uploaded essentially all their pictures to the web. Now we feel we're being cheated if we don't get daily updates, even when there's little or nothing worth seeing. I'm not saying that's wrong--just marvelling at the change. I have lots of sympathy for planners on the Dawn team who might be taken by surprise. Of course I'm as eager as anyone to see the new pics--even if they are just slightly-bigger blobs--but I can wait. I've got practice at it. --Greg |
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Jun 2 2011, 04:44 AM
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QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Jun 1 2011, 09:26 PM)  . I have lots of sympathy for planners on the Dawn team who might be taken by surprise. I can not possibly believe for a single second that the entire project is taken by surprise that the public might want to see the pictures they've paid for in a timely fashion. MER had been releasing images for 3.5 yrs and Cassini for 3, when Dawn LAUNCHED. There is no surprise here. Just a lack of images. |
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Holder of the Two Leashes Dawn approaches Vesta May 3 2011, 03:44 PM
elakdawalla If you looked at the Dawn Journal earlier this mor... May 3 2011, 07:34 PM elakdawalla I went through Marc's journals and summarized ... May 3 2011, 07:38 PM bagelverse Be nice to get an approach sequence as was done fo... May 3 2011, 10:39 PM Phil Stooke OK, Dawn team, this is the bit where you release a... May 5 2011, 04:14 PM elakdawalla Would be nice. All they've released lately is... May 5 2011, 05:07 PM
Stefan QUOTE (elakdawalla @ May 5 2011, 07:07 PM... May 5 2011, 07:34 PM Phil Stooke Wow, that's scary! Little bits of Gaspra,... May 5 2011, 05:12 PM Stu Ahhh... I think they're confusing DAWN with an... May 5 2011, 06:16 PM Phil Stooke While that might look like a good idea, I should p... May 5 2011, 10:20 PM Greg Hullender I note we just passed the 1M km mark.
http://neo... May 9 2011, 04:02 AM mchan OMG! Shades of MCO! It shows Dawn at 1M ... May 9 2011, 05:24 AM djellison Given that the metric value is expressed to one si... May 9 2011, 05:37 AM ElkGroveDan The correct figure is 5.168 million furlongs. May 9 2011, 01:22 PM stevesliva I prefer one gigameter, pronounced "jigameter... May 9 2011, 04:22 PM ugordan NASA's Dawn Captures First Image of Nearing As... May 11 2011, 03:29 PM tek_604 Press release from the Framing Camera Team @ MPS:
... May 12 2011, 12:39 PM tek_604 New website for Dawn Framing Camera @ MPS:
Dawn F... May 18 2011, 07:05 AM centsworth_II QUOTE (tek_604 @ May 18 2011, 02:05 AM) N... May 18 2011, 12:55 PM Phil Stooke Hopefully we'll get another picture soon. Mea... May 18 2011, 04:15 PM MahFL Well it at least appears to still be there, which ... May 18 2011, 04:30 PM Decepticon My understanding is Dawn will reach HST resolution... May 18 2011, 05:48 PM kenny Vesta has fond assocations for some of us. It was... May 19 2011, 12:40 PM Stu haha! I remember those! I wouldn't be ... May 19 2011, 01:15 PM ElkGroveDan QUOTE (Stu @ May 19 2011, 06:15 AM) ... t... May 19 2011, 03:08 PM MahFL I liked those Vesta Chow Mein meals ! May 19 2011, 05:17 PM AndyG And I liked the crunchy noodles.
Makes me wonder ... May 19 2011, 07:12 PM Phil Stooke OK, Dawn team! This is the bit where you rele... May 22 2011, 09:01 PM Greg Hullender QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ May 22 2011, 01:01 P... May 23 2011, 01:31 AM Hungry4info You aren't excited about this, are you?
I w... May 22 2011, 10:55 PM SFJCody Pictures taken now should have almost twice the re... May 23 2011, 12:28 AM Explorer1 And posting on a Sunday would be a big event for a... May 23 2011, 04:04 AM JohnVV Basically the same as Phil's
there is not muc... May 23 2011, 07:46 AM SFJCody Can't wait! If you consider the imagery of... May 23 2011, 10:06 AM antipode While we are all waiting for the next DAWN images,... May 26 2011, 09:11 AM charborob Go to this page, and scroll down to "Vesta... May 26 2011, 12:19 PM antipode Thankyou sir - that's EXACTLY what I was looki... May 28 2011, 03:57 AM Paolo a new Dawn Journal is out
http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov... May 28 2011, 05:48 PM Toma B These are few last sentences of text about DAWN th... May 28 2011, 07:48 PM CAP-Team According to Celestia, Vesta is now 3' 32,5... May 29 2011, 07:29 PM elakdawalla Would sure be nice if we could confirm that with a... May 30 2011, 01:53 AM Astro0 I'm surprised that we haven't seen any mor... May 30 2011, 10:04 AM Phil Stooke I did! Sometimes it's more a matter of pe... May 30 2011, 11:27 AM tek_604 For those of you on facebook, the Dawn Framing Cam... May 31 2011, 06:29 AM SFJCody If they get enough 'likes' will they relea... May 31 2011, 10:57 AM Bart Well I just 'liked' it, anyway. Jun 1 2011, 04:16 AM elakdawalla QUOTE (tek_604 @ May 30 2011, 11:29 PM) F... Jun 1 2011, 01:34 PM tek_604 QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jun 1 2011, 03:34 PM... Jun 1 2011, 02:49 PM Stu I think it's a great shame we're not seein... Jun 1 2011, 01:56 PM ngunn QUOTE (Stu @ Jun 1 2011, 02:56 PM) this l... Jun 1 2011, 09:02 PM volcanopele Seriously what are you guys expecting at this poin... Jun 1 2011, 09:11 PM ngunn QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jun 1 2011, 10:11 PM... Jun 1 2011, 09:33 PM Stu I don't think it's so much now about hopin... Jun 1 2011, 09:50 PM centsworth_II My guess is that the Dawn team planned image relea... Jun 1 2011, 09:55 PM ngunn QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Jun 1 2011, 10:55 ... Jun 1 2011, 10:13 PM volcanopele Don't get me wrong, I would love to see more i... Jun 1 2011, 10:06 PM Stu I don't think this is "uproar"... th... Jun 1 2011, 10:13 PM JohnVV i am in agreement with the few above this
At this... Jun 1 2011, 10:16 PM ngunn QUOTE (JohnVV @ Jun 1 2011, 11:16 PM) At ... Jun 1 2011, 10:32 PM ElkGroveDan I agree. I find this attitude of, "there... Jun 1 2011, 10:34 PM ngunn QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Jun 1 2011, 11:34 PM... Jun 1 2011, 10:52 PM Holder of the Two Leashes QUOTE (JohnVV @ Jun 1 2011, 04:16 PM) ...... Jun 2 2011, 04:18 AM elakdawalla volcanopele, would your point of view change if I ... Jun 1 2011, 10:30 PM volcanopele If that marks the beginning of daily image release... Jun 1 2011, 10:35 PM elakdawalla I don't think that daily image releases are an... Jun 1 2011, 11:05 PM ngunn The measure of public involvement needs to be part... Jun 1 2011, 11:19 PM ElkGroveDan I get the feeling that it's going to be more l... Jun 1 2011, 11:20 PM djellison Right now it's like OSIRIS on Rosetta. Uwe Ke... Jun 2 2011, 12:19 AM Bart They will have to upload it all to PDS eventually,... Jun 2 2011, 01:55 AM elakdawalla Yes, that's true. No matter how stingy the PI... Jun 2 2011, 02:08 AM lyford QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jun 1 2011, 06:08 PM... Jun 2 2011, 05:08 AM eoincampbell I hereby add my voice to this -request for images- Jun 2 2011, 02:29 AM tanjent Just to play the Devil's advocate:
If you wan... Jun 2 2011, 08:10 AM centsworth_II QUOTE (tanjent @ Jun 2 2011, 04:10 AM) ..... Jun 2 2011, 12:52 PM Astro0 Jobs' would stick an Apple logo on it, tell yo... Jun 2 2011, 09:29 AM tanjent Well, if is some kind of scripted marketing ploy, ... Jun 2 2011, 10:30 AM SFJCody http://www.dawn.mps.mpg.de/typo3temp/pics/597c5396... Jun 2 2011, 11:37 AM djellison Marketing and Outreach are not the same. There is... Jun 2 2011, 01:45 PM Sunspot In the past NASA have had "Solar System Ambas... Jun 2 2011, 05:09 PM Norm Hartnett The silence seems to be drawing some attention.
h... Jun 3 2011, 04:02 PM belleraphon1 Am sending the same message to Emily's blog em... Jun 3 2011, 09:31 PM jsheff I totally share the desire to see as many images a... Jun 3 2011, 11:53 PM jsheff Actually, the Flight Operations Team has been very... Jun 4 2011, 01:03 AM lyford QUOTE (jsheff @ Jun 3 2011, 05:03 PM) Act... Jun 4 2011, 06:29 AM Bjorn Jonsson I thought image release policies like Dawn's h... Jun 4 2011, 01:35 AM ElkGroveDan QUOTE (tanjent @ Jun 2 2011, 01:10 AM) Fo... Jun 4 2011, 04:41 AM Decepticon Im not to worried about pics yet.
When dawns res... Jun 4 2011, 02:14 PM djellison Then get worried - that's right about now. Jun 4 2011, 02:51 PM Decepticon QUOTE (djellison @ Jun 4 2011, 10:51 AM) ... Jun 4 2011, 06:41 PM Juramike I wrote to a member of the Dawn E/PO Team and rece... Jun 4 2011, 03:03 PM djellison QUOTE (Juramike @ Jun 4 2011, 07:03 AM) C... Jun 4 2011, 03:10 PM ElkGroveDan It's really just a case of them wanting to hav... Jun 4 2011, 03:53 PM tanjent Marc Rayman provides great commentary, and I appre... Jun 4 2011, 03:56 PM djellison QUOTE (tanjent @ Jun 4 2011, 07:56 AM) Wh... Jun 4 2011, 04:02 PM ElkGroveDan QUOTE (tanjent @ Jun 4 2011, 08:56 AM) Th... Jun 4 2011, 04:06 PM Bunker9603 I sent several emails to members of the DAWN team.... Jun 4 2011, 04:35 PM nprev Hmm. So minimal manpower is the possible reason fo... Jun 4 2011, 05:41 PM djellison The second week in June starts in <48hrs
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