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Dawn approaches Vesta, Approach phase, 3 May to 16 July 2011
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post Jun 10 2011, 11:49 AM
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And any forum members who are on Facebook - please consider going to the aforementioned Framing Camera page and Liking it; it's a great and very easy way of showing interest in and support for the mission. I'm sure it's probably just a one- or two-man Outreach effort, too, so the person/people behind it will be very grateful for the support. I'm sure once the images start being released properly it'll be a great place to go to learn/talk about the mission.


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post Jun 10 2011, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Jun 9 2011, 07:31 PM) *
It wasn't. And we were told that quite specifically.
I'm not saying the plan was to release an approach movie Monday, but that I assume they always planned to make an approach movie.
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post Jun 10 2011, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Jun 10 2011, 05:46 AM) *
I'm not saying the plan was to release an approach movie Monday, but that I assume they always planned to make an approach movie.


And yet we have Russell on record (see Emily's blog entry) saying

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These images are optimized for determining the position of the spacecraft relative to Vesta and not for making pretty pictures of Vesta.


Releasing a pretty movie on Monday, whilst taking images 'not for making pretty picture'..... that's a direct contradiction.
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post Jun 10 2011, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Jun 10 2011, 02:46 PM) *
I assume they always planned to make an approach movie.


You can always make approach movie from enough images. Most important question about images is - how long exposition time they used?
If all images are overexposed (and first image evidently isn't), then one can say bye bye to all details on Vesta's disc.
Such images are normally used as optical navigation and search for moons, rings or tenuous atmosphere.
But I suppose that in every approach sequence are images taken with different exposition time and maybe even with different filters.

BTW, I always think that most images from spacecrafts are taken for scientific reasons and "not for making pretty pictures", it's only sheer accident, that
some of us think, that space is beautiful. smile.gif


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post Jun 10 2011, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE (djellison @ Jun 10 2011, 03:50 PM) *
Releasing a pretty movie on Monday, whilst taking images 'not for making pretty picture'..... that's a direct contradiction.


It is not. You have no reason to question the P.I.'s statements. All FC images of Vesta to date have been acquired for optical navigation purposes.
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post Jun 10 2011, 05:38 PM
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It is Stefan. We were told that images were not being released because they were not pretty, not suitable for the public.

And now, they are.
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post Jun 10 2011, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE (Stefan @ Jun 10 2011, 06:21 PM) *
It is not. You have no reason to question the P.I.'s statements. All FC images of Vesta to date have been acquired for optical navigation purposes.


I take it you haven't been reading this thread. rolleyes.gif


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post Jun 10 2011, 08:58 PM
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A pretty picture is not the same as a movie. Individual frames of a movie may make poor quality pictures, but the movie itself may be of passable quality. By the way, have they really said the approach movie was going to be "pretty"?
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post Jun 10 2011, 09:14 PM
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This is just directed at the situation, no one in particular- OY!


This situation has become

Subnormal
Unfortunate
Conflicted
Knowledge-confused
Superunsatisfying

For now the horse ( or parrot) is dead, beaten, powdered, etc.

On Monday, we can see the movie, and start over, wash, rinse, repeat.
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post Jun 10 2011, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE (bagelverse @ Jun 10 2011, 05:14 PM) *
....OY!
True, true, and true! laugh.gif
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post Jun 11 2011, 01:29 AM
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Yeah, debating semantics won't get that approach movie up any sooner.
I liked the camera's FB page, for what it's worth.
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post Jun 11 2011, 04:09 AM
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I still think that just 165 people who've "liked" the Camera page makes for a very, very weak statement.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/dawn.framing.camera

Let me suggest that on Monday, when they do post some more pictures, we all "share" the pictures with our friends, and encourage them to "like" the Camera page. And tell them why. It's a statement of support for prompt public disclosure of scientific information.

If we can't push that number over 1,000, it's hard to see why anyone should take us seriously. "Minus 165 cranks, the REAL public would happily wait months--like they always have." Let's see if we can do better!

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post Jun 11 2011, 04:46 AM
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Good plan. I've posted a link to the page on my facebook wall with a little explanation.
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post Jun 11 2011, 06:09 AM
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QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Jun 10 2011, 08:09 PM) *
I still think that just 165 people who've "liked" the Camera page makes for a very, very weak statement.


105 space enthusiasts were at the JPL TweetUp

38,000 members of the general public were at Open House


The TweetUp generated more traffic to websites and more mentions of projects out in the wild.



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post Jun 11 2011, 06:44 AM
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Ok, so come Monday let's make a concerted, team effort to promote the approach movie.

If you're on Facebook, Like the movie, write about it on your wall, comment on the Framing Camera page's wall, and the Dawn mission page too. If you're on Twitter, Tweet about it, and encourage your followers to RT it, too. Just get the word out, tell as many people about it as you can, however you can.

Always ending with "Great! More please!" smile.gif


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