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May 5 2011, 08:48 PM
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Ahoy mateys!
NASA announces Discovery mission selection for Phase A. Titan Mare Explorer (TiME) is among them. Har! |
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May 16 2011, 01:08 PM
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Except that the vast majority of the data will probably be GCMS results, which are a little less photogenic, albeit very scientifically valuable.
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May 17 2011, 05:35 AM
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Except that the vast majority of the data will probably be GCMS results, which are a little less photogenic, albeit very scientifically valuable. I'm glad to see that you lot are thinking about all this - fun, isnt't it? Obviously I'm not going to go into specifics but it is possible to address some of the questions that have come up in very general terms. Materials/temperatures - guys, come on. Huygens operated in this environment until its batteries ran out. Launch vehicles - to say nothing of the liquified natural gas industry - deal with cryogenic fluids all the time. Of course heat leaks and insulation need to be designed appropriately, and material properties at the relevant environment must be considered, as they do on Mars and Venus or in vacuo. Communications - some cogent discussion on the thread. This has been thought about a lot for Titan balloons too. I'll remind readers that many cruise ships, and drones for that matter, use gimballed antennas for satellite communications. Again, not trivial, but a familiar and soluble problem. As for data - have a look at the Huygens or Pathfinder or any other mission's balance of data volume between imaging, composition, meteorology etc. On any mission this balance gets struck somehow (and indeed it can often be tuned during the mission) |
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rlorenz TiME May 5 2011, 08:48 PM
centsworth_II Long may this thread live! To 2023 and beyond... May 5 2011, 09:01 PM
Juramike Whatever floats your boat!
Congratulation... May 5 2011, 09:09 PM
ngunn And a hearty cheer from me. I worked at sea for... May 5 2011, 09:20 PM
Drkskywxlt Congratulations, Ralph, and also to your team! May 5 2011, 11:57 PM
nprev Wow, Ralph, MAJOR congrats!!! This pro... May 6 2011, 12:00 AM
titanicrivers Excellent! Something to really look forward t... May 6 2011, 12:25 AM
punkboi I hope TiME gets chosen in 2016. Outer Planet miss... May 6 2011, 02:11 AM
SFJCody I also prefer TiME to the other candidates. METNET... May 6 2011, 02:27 AM
stevesliva QUOTE (SFJCody @ May 5 2011, 10:27 PM) I ... May 6 2011, 03:47 AM
Juramike QUOTE (SFJCody @ May 5 2011, 09:27 PM) Bu... May 6 2011, 01:37 PM
tfisher I agree: of the three announced candidate missions... May 7 2011, 03:20 PM
centsworth_II QUOTE (tfisher @ May 7 2011, 10:20 AM) ..... May 7 2011, 06:19 PM
tfisher Does anyone know what liquid methane/ethane is lik... May 7 2011, 07:39 PM

Juramike QUOTE (tfisher @ May 7 2011, 02:39 PM) Do... May 7 2011, 07:44 PM

rlorenz QUOTE (Juramike @ May 7 2011, 03:44 PM) G... May 8 2011, 12:13 AM

Juramike QUOTE (rlorenz @ May 7 2011, 07:13 PM) [T... May 8 2011, 01:40 AM

jasedm QUOTE (Juramike @ May 8 2011, 02:40 AM) t... May 8 2011, 10:33 AM
ngunn QUOTE (centsworth_II @ May 7 2011, 07:19 ... May 7 2011, 09:03 PM
centsworth_II QUOTE (ngunn @ May 7 2011, 05:03 PM) I wa... May 7 2011, 09:16 PM
eoincampbell I'm on TiME's side, Ligeia Mare, here we c... May 6 2011, 05:00 AM
antipode I like all the selected missions, but TiME seems s... May 6 2011, 07:12 AM
machi Congratulations Ralph and whole TiME team.
It... May 6 2011, 10:03 AM
djellison Moreover - TiME will be quite a warm thing - so he... May 7 2011, 08:14 PM
nprev When exactly can we expect the final mission selec... May 7 2011, 08:39 PM
nprev Thanks for those slides, Cents.
I'd actually ... May 7 2011, 10:06 PM
DFinfrock QUOTE (nprev @ May 7 2011, 10:06 PM) Than... May 8 2011, 12:33 AM
tedstryk Time seems like quite a timely proposal. Congratu... May 8 2011, 01:35 AM
djellison QUOTE (tedstryk @ May 7 2011, 05:35 PM) a... May 8 2011, 06:47 AM
SFJCody QUOTE (tedstryk @ May 8 2011, 11:35 AM) T... May 8 2011, 06:58 AM
nprev I see that the UMSF bad pun tradition is alive ... May 8 2011, 09:44 AM
brellis QUOTE (nprev @ May 8 2011, 01:44 AM) I... May 8 2011, 03:25 PM
machi It looks (from scheme), that two imaging instrumen... May 8 2011, 01:23 PM
centsworth_II Unfortunately it does look a bit iffy for getting ... May 8 2011, 01:54 PM
ugordan QUOTE (centsworth_II @ May 8 2011, 03:54 ... May 8 2011, 02:20 PM
rlorenz QUOTE (ugordan @ May 8 2011, 10:20 AM) Wh... May 8 2011, 03:00 PM

Greg Hullender QUOTE (rlorenz @ May 8 2011, 08:00 AM) a ... May 8 2011, 05:10 PM

eoincampbell QUOTE (rlorenz @ May 8 2011, 07:00 AM) Ho... May 8 2011, 06:57 PM
centsworth_II QUOTE (ugordan @ May 8 2011, 09:20 AM) Yo... May 8 2011, 05:33 PM
ugordan I was under the impression the haze doesn't ... May 8 2011, 05:53 PM
nprev Ralph, although I'm sure it's proprietary ... May 8 2011, 09:13 PM
ElkGroveDan All in due...... well, you know. May 8 2011, 09:34 PM
nprev <groan>...walked right into that one! May 8 2011, 09:55 PM
Explorer1 With luck, there should be a naming contest or we... May 8 2011, 11:39 PM
nprev Not a bad point, Explorer, and I think that NH was... May 9 2011, 12:31 AM
DFinfrock QUOTE (nprev @ May 9 2011, 12:31 AM) TiME... May 9 2011, 01:18 AM
polaris QUOTE (DFinfrock @ May 9 2011, 02:18 AM) ... May 11 2011, 02:08 PM
jasedm I vote for Shackleton's ship 'Endurance... May 9 2011, 04:35 PM
dmg QUOTE (jasedm @ May 9 2011, 09:35 AM) I v... May 10 2011, 12:44 PM
MahFL How about "Armada" from "The Spanis... May 10 2011, 01:46 PM
nprev I like "Admunsen"; seems like a very apr... May 10 2011, 10:21 PM
djellison Amundsen and Scott were names for the DS2 micropro... May 10 2011, 11:13 PM
tedstryk QUOTE (djellison @ May 10 2011, 11:13 PM)... May 10 2011, 11:36 PM
djellison QUOTE (tedstryk @ May 10 2011, 03:36 PM) ... May 10 2011, 11:42 PM
elakdawalla QUOTE (tedstryk @ May 10 2011, 03:36 PM) ... May 11 2011, 12:38 AM
nprev Argh...right, right...bummer!
Hmm. Wonder if ... May 10 2011, 11:20 PM
stevesliva Call it the Cuyahoga. Volatile organics and all t... May 10 2011, 11:33 PM
Drkskywxlt How about the Fram?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... May 10 2011, 11:40 PM
Bjorn Jonsson The names of the Vikings that discovered Greenland... May 11 2011, 01:02 AM
djellison Hey - we could call it TiME. May 11 2011, 01:53 AM
tedstryk QUOTE (djellison @ May 11 2011, 01:53 AM)... May 11 2011, 07:09 PM
Astrophil Not an explorer, but – Coleridge: “We were the fir... May 12 2011, 07:58 AM
nprev To be sure. The clock is indeed ticking; to ans... May 11 2011, 01:57 AM
Stu It would never happen in a gazillion years, I... May 11 2011, 02:12 PM
tedstryk Perhaps Champlain would be a good name, since he n... May 11 2011, 05:17 PM
DFinfrock QUOTE (Stu @ May 11 2011, 02:12 PM) It wo... May 13 2011, 01:10 AM
Phil Stooke "Parachute Landing On Puddle"
PLOP... May 12 2011, 11:37 AM
centsworth_II Titanic?
Or -- since Time is a raft -- Kon-Tiki.... May 12 2011, 12:31 PM
titanicrivers How about the good ship ARGO. (I don't have t... May 12 2011, 12:49 PM
remcook QUOTE (centsworth_II @ May 12 2011, 12:31... May 12 2011, 02:21 PM
machi Personally I like Fram and Endurance. These names ... May 12 2011, 02:30 PM
ElkGroveDan A ship out on one of the Great Lakes in cold nasty... May 12 2011, 02:30 PM
titanicrivers QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ May 12 2011, 09:30 A... May 12 2011, 02:54 PM
DFinfrock QUOTE (titanicrivers @ May 12 2011, 02:54... May 13 2011, 01:02 AM
AndyG QUOTE (DFinfrock @ May 13 2011, 02:02 AM)... May 13 2011, 10:25 AM

MahFL Cat's are a law unto themselves, ours called ... May 13 2011, 12:55 PM
djellison QUOTE (DFinfrock @ May 12 2011, 06:02 PM)... May 13 2011, 01:39 PM
Paolo a technical question: any idea of the data rate of... May 15 2011, 08:44 AM
Phil Stooke My concern too - coupled with the brief mission af... May 15 2011, 03:49 PM
nprev On the other hand, it's gonna have gobs of pow... May 15 2011, 05:20 PM
mchan Just because TiME will use an ASRG (or two) does n... May 15 2011, 09:11 PM
centsworth_II QUOTE (mchan @ May 15 2011, 05:11 PM) ...... May 16 2011, 02:16 PM
Bjorn Jonsson An extremely crude back-of-the-envelope calculatio... May 15 2011, 10:39 PM
ngunn I'm on board. There's no fatal flaw with t... May 15 2011, 10:49 PM
Bjorn Jonsson Thinking more about this, the Galileo LGA might be... May 15 2011, 11:07 PM
stevesliva And of course, as long as the descent imaging and ... May 15 2011, 11:39 PM
machi "any idea of the data rate of TiME and of the... May 15 2011, 11:53 PM
ElkGroveDan QUOTE (rlorenz @ May 16 2011, 09:35 PM) M... May 17 2011, 06:07 AM
rlorenz QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ May 17 2011, 01:07 A... May 19 2011, 03:54 AM
tanjent Good point. Roughly speaking the Earth should be v... May 16 2011, 03:08 PM
centsworth_II QUOTE (tanjent @ May 16 2011, 10:08 AM) .... May 16 2011, 04:12 PM
Bjorn Jonsson QUOTE (centsworth_II @ May 16 2011, 04:12... May 16 2011, 04:41 PM
centsworth_II QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ May 16 2011, 12:41... May 16 2011, 04:42 PM
ElkGroveDan I suppose engineering specifics are way down the r... May 16 2011, 03:10 PM
Bjorn Jonsson No, it won't happen (unless you get a *very* l... May 16 2011, 05:02 PM
centsworth_II QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ May 16 2011, 12:02... May 16 2011, 08:46 PM
helvick Dan - I wouldn't have thought that sort of tem... May 16 2011, 05:21 PM
nprev One thing to consider is that TiME will require VE... May 17 2011, 12:34 AM![]() ![]() |
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