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Jun 29 2011, 01:27 AM
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Jun 29 2011, 10:46 AM
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I have few of questions about the desent stage thrusters.
Are all 8 used in the landing ? Why are the thrusters in each pair pointing in different directions ? What happens if the thrust is not enough ? Thanks. Also I read the thrusters run at 107 %, which seems an odd figure to me. |
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Jun 29 2011, 01:51 PM
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I have few of questions about the desent stage thrusters...... This document has much of the info you require... it has been linked to before from this forum. Anyone serious about understanding MSL EDL would find it via google quite easily. http://trs-new.jpl.nasa.gov/dspace/handle/2014/41629 In particular "Beginning at an altitude of approximately 50 m above the surface, the PDV begins the constant deceleration segment. During this sub-segment, the PDV is decelerated from 20 m/s to 0.75 m/s. This is done at a constant deceleration rate roughly equivalent to 90% throttle setting...... Throttle Down At this point in the landing sequence, more than half of the initial 400 kg of fuel has been consumed. In order to maintain thrust equal to weight, the MLEs would need to be throttled back to thrust levels on the order of 20-25%. Since the MLEs operate less efficiently at these throttle settings, four of the MLEs are throttled back to their near- shutdown condition of 1%. This allows the four remaining MLEs to function in the more efficient range of 50% throttle. The transition from eight to four MLEs introduces disturbances to the system. Therefore, a 2.5 second period of time is allotted for the disturbances to settle allowing for predictable and stable conditions for the next major segment of the landing: Sky Crane." QUOTE What happens if the thrust is not enough Then the project doesn't get through Preliminary Design Review. That was about 5 years ago. What a strange question. 107% sounds like the Space Shuttle thrust level. Where did you read that the MSL MLE's would be running at 107%? |
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ugordan Ha! Jun 21 2011, 04:47 PM
KrisK There are some new pictures in KSC gallery:
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Oersted Thx for the pics! Jun 21 2011, 09:17 PM
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h... Jun 23 2011, 08:40 PM
ElkGroveDan - Jun 23 2011, 09:59 PM
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nprev We do all tend to forget the critical importance o... Jun 27 2011, 12:36 AM
KrisK Unpacking descent stage @ KSC:
More: http://med... Jun 28 2011, 09:07 PM
djellison KrisK - there's no need to embed the images in... Jun 29 2011, 12:24 AM
ElkGroveDan - Jun 29 2011, 12:36 AM
centsworth_II QUOTE (MahFL @ Jun 29 2011, 05:46 AM) I h... Jun 29 2011, 01:05 PM
MahFL It was a wrong assumption by me the thrusters woul... Jun 29 2011, 02:52 PM
paxdan Yes
For stability
Lithobraking
100% is the origin... Jun 29 2011, 11:20 AM
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peter59 Mars Science Laboratory's page is slightly cha... Jul 29 2011, 07:40 PM
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sgendreau QUOTE (peter59 @ Jul 29 2011, 12:40 PM) S... Aug 2 2011, 03:37 PM
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pospa Whose was this idea? Somebody we know here?
Ben... Aug 7 2011, 01:05 PM
nprev QUOTE (pospa @ Aug 7 2011, 05:05 AM) Whos... Aug 8 2011, 11:36 PM
cIclops Video of Curiosity flight hardware being prepared ... Aug 8 2011, 04:45 PM
pospa Due to longer tests of EDL phase during August the... Sep 1 2011, 01:11 PM
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pospa QUOTE And, I think the mylar's coming off....p... Oct 6 2011, 08:07 PM
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climber QUOTE (Oersted @ Oct 25 2011, 10:40 PM) S... Oct 25 2011, 09:02 PM
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djellison I think so. Oct 26 2011, 11:16 PM
pospa I do not think so.
The fairing hatch for the M... Oct 27 2011, 09:20 AM
djellison QUOTE (pospa @ Oct 27 2011, 01:20 AM) The... Oct 27 2011, 02:33 PM
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pospa MSL payload fairing's got nice NASA & miss... Nov 4 2011, 08:43 AM
pospa Not sure if this is the best thread to share this ... Nov 4 2011, 09:01 AM
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Oersted And here you have the briefing, courtesy of the su... Nov 10 2011, 10:50 PM
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djellison QUOTE (Oersted @ Nov 10 2011, 03:06 PM) A... Nov 11 2011, 12:13 AM
CosmicRocker QUOTE (djellison @ Nov 10 2011, 01:08 PM)... Nov 11 2011, 12:04 AM
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djellison Next week. Nov 11 2011, 07:29 AM
Oersted Thanks for the info Doug. Nov 11 2011, 08:31 PM
cIclops Getting ready for launch!
http://youtu.be/vmn... Nov 18 2011, 10:34 AM
pospa MMRTG has been installed yesterday (2011-11-17).
T... Nov 18 2011, 02:00 PM
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elakdawalla Launch delay by one day, to replace suspect batte... Nov 19 2011, 09:32 PM
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ugordan QUOTE (nprev @ Nov 19 2011, 10:39 PM) Doe... Nov 19 2011, 10:10 PM
Stu Oh NO!!! I'll be at work! It w... Nov 19 2011, 09:44 PM
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nprev Ah. Thanks, guys.
For some odd reason that seems ... Nov 19 2011, 10:31 PM
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Oersted The cooling circuit is surely well-insulated. As f... Nov 23 2011, 01:01 PM
nprev Not sure of the methods employed, but I'm cert... Nov 23 2011, 01:17 PM
Leither http://planetaryprotection.nasa.gov/methods/
prov... Nov 24 2011, 10:03 PM
pospa Another potential planetary protection "issue... Dec 5 2011, 08:38 AM
nprev No, not at all. Dec 5 2011, 10:35 AM![]() ![]() |
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