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Cape York - Shoemaker Ridge and the NE traverse, Starting sol 2735
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post Oct 23 2011, 12:02 AM
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My mind's eye has been pretty set on the view into Endeavour as compared to the view of the San Fernando Valley from Mulholland Dr. smile.gif


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post Oct 23 2011, 10:47 AM
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To help rover driver Scott (and the rest of us) visualizing the size of Endeavour, I think It could be cool to put some Empire State Buildings or Eiffel Towers into the panoramas of the crater. We need something a little bigger than Mystery Man for those distances! It would be especially interesting to see those buildings giving scale to Tribulation and to the mountains on the other side of the crater. Anyone up for it? smile.gif
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post Oct 23 2011, 11:17 AM
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Great idea! You should give it a go! smile.gif


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post Oct 23 2011, 11:37 AM
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Oh, that would be way above my feeble skills... - I defer to the experts!
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post Oct 23 2011, 12:13 PM
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That's the way I used to think, too, but gave it a go and gradually I've made it to the 'not bad if I say so myself!' level. And
really there's room here for everyone's efforts, and you won't learn unless you try, will you? smile.gif


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post Oct 23 2011, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE (brellis @ Oct 22 2011, 05:02 PM) *
Endeavour as compared to the view of the San Fernando Valley from Mulholland Dr. smile.gif

Very nice. I like the view from the end of Reseda past the golf course. The mountains are too high of course, but the distance to the Santa Susanas above Granada Hills is roughly accurate.
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post Oct 23 2011, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE (Oersted @ Oct 23 2011, 11:47 AM) *
Empire State Buildings or Eiffel Towers


Great idea, but I'd go for a Saturn V.
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post Oct 23 2011, 07:37 PM
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A couple stereo pairs of Fairview.
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post Oct 23 2011, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE (ngunn @ Oct 23 2011, 04:43 PM) *
Great idea, but I'd go for a Saturn V.


Most of us have seen either one or the other of the two buildings but very few - I guess - have seen the Saturn V in person. Anyway, any well-known landmark would do perfectly well, maybe it would be even better with even bigger landmarks, small mountains for instance. Or a cruise ship or supertanker standing on its end... smile.gif
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post Oct 23 2011, 09:23 PM
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True, but I think we'd get used to it. One check against something you knew would do the calibration. I was thinking it would be a nice homage to all those space artists from Chesley Bonestell onward who have portrayed rockets standing on the surface of Mars.
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post Oct 23 2011, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE (MHoward)
iPhone/iPod Touch with a my3D, the latter two images are compatible

Nice, but be advised that these are not x-eyed stereo, and one can sproing one's eyes trying to view au naturel. blink.gif

Easy cut-and-paste fix at home, though.

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post Oct 23 2011, 10:46 PM
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QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Oct 23 2011, 03:37 PM) *
Easy cut-and-paste fix at home, though.


What's the fix? I ask just for information purposes - I've never been able to view stereo pairs au naturel myself.
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post Oct 24 2011, 12:03 AM
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Simple-- in an image editor, swap the images left-right. The "right channel" image needs to be on the left and and the "left channel" image needs to be on the right for "cross-eyed" viewing. It's an acquired habit and one that needs practice. And it helps to be nearsighted.

Most of the close-in Pancam stereo pairs need to be rotated and aligned because of the way the camera mast moves, and L257 and R721 images need to be color-matched, so you've done 90% of the work already. Thanks!

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post Oct 24 2011, 02:04 AM
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Here is my first crude attempt at putting the Eiffel Tower in Endeavour Crater

The Eiffel is almost exactly 1000 feet tall
The crater is almost 14 miles across, so half way across is 7 miles or roughly 40K feet
At that distance a 1000 foot object would appear 1.43 degrees tall. (right triangle math)
Each Pancam pixel resolves 0.28 mrads
1.43 degrees is about 24 mrads
So the tower would be about 80 pixels tall at 40,000 feet away.
I found a silhouette online and shrunk it to 80 pixels.
(please check my math....)

I put the Eiffel on top of the center mound in the crater, thinking it represented about halfway across.
(i didn't tilt the image to match the tower, so we have a leaning tower of eiffel...)

Your mileage may vary...

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post Oct 24 2011, 03:15 AM
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The winds of Mars sandblast the rocks in such a way that uncanny projections stick way out at times, more so than we see on Earth. I would guess due to the weaker gravity. This new one is exceptionally top-heavy:

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