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Nov 26 2011, 03:50 PM
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Okay, we're off and running! Please post all comments relating to MSL's transit to Mars here.
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Nov 30 2011, 04:40 PM
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Also VERY cool would be any MAHLI picture from inside of the spacecraft during the cruise phase ... as was done with Phoenix RAC camera. Do we know if MSL team has intention to do such a test shot? Don't know if they plan to - but I would have thought they would... inflight-cal is a useful post-launch checkout. I wouldn't expect them to actuate the lens cover - but they could certainly power up the white-light LED's and take a picture inside the backshell. It would, I think, show the steering actuator for the front left wheel in its stowed position. Is the cruise stage's spin in real-time? Great attention to detail if so! No - it's canned at 2rpm ( the nominal cruise spin rate) Remember, 'Eyes...' uses a combination of predicted and reconstructed data. Getting 'live' data thru from a flight project in these ITAR laden times is a mountain that even I'm not even going to attempt. I am not sure how accurate the model is but it looks like there is only one thruster jet on the cruise stage for course corrections, I would have thought 2 would be more reliable. Using this image as reference: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/msl/20111110/pia15026-43.jpg Assuming you meant the thruster at about 5 O'clock...that's not a thruster you're looking at. That's the star-tracker. There are 8 thrusters - two clusters of 4. In that image they are at about 1 O'clock and 7 O'clock, covered with a red remove before flight fixture. They're tiny. Could you provide a link ? I think Doug mentioned this before. I've only read that MAHLI would do time-lapse type frames... If you google MAHLI. The very first link takes you to the MSSS page that includes a link to 'reference material'. Documents like this : http://www.msss.com/msl/mahli/references/E...l_MarsMicro.pdf : and this : http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2009/pdf/1197.pdf should fill you in. I've heard annecdotal comments that using MAHLI for DD surveys is possible, as it's the widest FOV camera (apart from MARDI, which obviously isn't going to be looking for DD's) with the movie ability. Mastcam 34 is roughly Pancam FOV, and Mastcam 100 about 1/3rd of that - whereas MAHLI is, if my math is right - about 30 x 23 deg FOV. The question would be - is it worth the large energy spend to move the arm into an elevated position for such a survey. It's not something I'd expect to see happening early on, that's for sure. D |
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Nov 30 2011, 04:57 PM
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There are 8 thrusters - two clusters of 4. In that image they are at about 1 O'clock and 7 O'clock, covered with a red remove before flight fixture. They're tiny. D Doug has it right. The two thruster clusters on either side of the cruise stage used by MSL are nearly exactly the same used on Mars Pathfinder and MER. Each thruster can provide about a pound of push when needed. This configuration is very handy (if I do say so myself * we use the word "turn" to denote a rotation of the vehicle, not a left or right turn of the flight path. The latter we call TCMs - trajectory correction maneuvers. -Rob PS Doug, Nice tool!!!!! |
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nprev MSL Cruise Phase Nov 26 2011, 03:50 PM
Oersted
The live footage of the first couple of kilomete... Nov 26 2011, 03:52 PM
climber Oppy, here I come !
Waiting for post launch co... Nov 26 2011, 04:07 PM
Oersted QUOTE (climber @ Nov 26 2011, 05:07 PM) O... Nov 26 2011, 04:34 PM
climber QUOTE (Oersted @ Nov 26 2011, 05:34 PM) W... Nov 26 2011, 04:48 PM
nprev Yeah, that was indeed a beautiful sight to behold,... Nov 26 2011, 04:08 PM
vikingmars ... and we just had champagne at home near Paris t... Nov 26 2011, 04:14 PM
DEChengst They just started showing the title card for the p... Nov 26 2011, 05:34 PM
sgendreau EDIT2: Not much news.
No news is good news for ... Nov 26 2011, 06:01 PM
dmg Anyone know why the telemetry pickup from the laun... Nov 26 2011, 07:07 PM
MarsEngineer No news is good news indeed!
We are watching... Nov 26 2011, 09:51 PM
Pando QUOTE (MarsEngineer @ Nov 26 2011, 02:51 ... Nov 26 2011, 11:16 PM
Oersted QUOTE (MarsEngineer @ Nov 26 2011, 10:51 ... Nov 27 2011, 12:20 AM
climber Tanks Rob, I was browsing like mad to get any news... Nov 26 2011, 10:11 PM
MERovingian Bravo to all the teams involved, JPL, ULA, NASA, K... Nov 26 2011, 10:52 PM
nprev Rob, thanks very much for taking the trouble durin... Nov 27 2011, 12:01 AM
Explorer1 Actually the last EDL was in 2008 with the Phoenix... Nov 27 2011, 12:01 AM
Oersted I uploaded footage of the launch and spacecraft se... Nov 27 2011, 12:44 AM
Syrinx Thank you sir for the videos. I was unable to wat... Nov 27 2011, 02:02 AM
tanjent I'm having some trouble with "data dropou... Nov 27 2011, 03:34 AM
kwan3217 (Full inline quote removed- Mod)
The apogee for a... Nov 27 2011, 02:23 PM
scalbers QUOTE (kwan3217 @ Nov 27 2011, 03:23 PM) ... Nov 27 2011, 04:08 PM
kwan3217 (Full inline quote removed- Mod)
The guys at JPL ... Nov 28 2011, 08:58 PM
john_s I was watching those numbers too. The apogee shou... Nov 27 2011, 03:54 AM
tanjent OK - I bet it actually finds the perigee by lookin... Nov 27 2011, 04:04 AM
MahFL The separation video was just awesome, although I ... Nov 27 2011, 04:49 AM
OKB001 QUOTE (MahFL @ Nov 26 2011, 08:49 PM) The... Nov 27 2011, 05:59 AM
tanjent Well, the altitude should be directly observable b... Nov 27 2011, 02:50 PM
Astro0 A little late to the party I guess. My weekend was... Nov 27 2011, 10:05 PM
MarsEngineer QUOTE (Astro0 @ Nov 27 2011, 02:05 PM) A ... Nov 28 2011, 12:36 AM
Oersted Oh, a rainbow to boot! Lovely panorama and tha... Nov 27 2011, 10:30 PM
MarsEngineer Hi all,
Please take a look at the observations ma... Nov 28 2011, 12:54 AM
nprev ...words utterly fail me. Just remarkable.
Many t... Nov 28 2011, 12:59 AM
eoincampbell WOW! Thanks for sharing another "Heimdall... Nov 28 2011, 03:05 AM
tanjent Quote: http://www.facebook.com/BrisbanePlanetarium... Nov 28 2011, 08:36 AM
Oersted That is an amazing timelapse!
http://www.yout... Nov 28 2011, 01:12 PM
Oersted On my youtube page of MSL launch movies I am getti... Nov 28 2011, 03:10 PM
Greg Hullender QUOTE (Oersted @ Nov 28 2011, 07:10 AM) ... Nov 28 2011, 03:57 PM
Roby72 Here you could see Curiosity 10 hours 30 minutes a... Nov 28 2011, 09:51 PM
Bobby Question? Is there a site either through JPL or a... Nov 29 2011, 12:40 AM
punkboi http://space.jpl.nasa.gov/
MSL's position sho... Nov 29 2011, 12:49 AM
Astro0 As usual, Eyes on the Solar System can take us all... Nov 30 2011, 04:12 AM
Explorer1 Is the cruise stage's spin in real-time?
Great... Nov 30 2011, 05:57 AM
MahFL Don't forget, the whole Rover is spinning....l... Nov 30 2011, 12:08 PM
MahFL I am not sure how accurate the model is but it loo... Nov 30 2011, 12:13 PM
ilbasso Should we bring her back for repairs? Nov 30 2011, 12:18 PM
MahFL I just read that the hand lens imager can take pic... Nov 30 2011, 01:52 PM
eoincampbell QUOTE (MahFL @ Nov 30 2011, 05:52 AM) ...... Nov 30 2011, 04:19 PM
Deimos http://msl-scicorner.jpl.nasa.gov/Instruments/MAHL... Nov 30 2011, 04:50 PM
pospa Also VERY cool would be any MAHLI picture from ins... Nov 30 2011, 02:22 PM
climber You can even dream of a shot of Spacecraft separat... Nov 30 2011, 03:05 PM
ElkGroveDan The next images we'll see from MSL will likely... Nov 30 2011, 03:46 PM
john_s I love the idea of the rover doing an "arms-l... Nov 30 2011, 05:21 PM
djellison It took all the way until working on the MSL anima... Nov 30 2011, 05:23 PM
climber I noticed on a previous video that legs extended a... Nov 30 2011, 06:18 PM
djellison Actually - the descent stage thrusters do start be... Nov 30 2011, 07:25 PM
john_s That "hard drop", with the rover falling... Nov 30 2011, 07:38 PM
climber I read, where?, that, as soon as released, Curiosi... Nov 30 2011, 07:53 PM
Ron Hobbs From what I thought was a very informative article... Nov 30 2011, 08:17 PM
djellison Ron - as far as I know, that article has it about ... Nov 30 2011, 10:33 PM
MahFL Well I should have known better the tragectory man... Dec 1 2011, 12:23 AM
Syrinx http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/...11201... Dec 2 2011, 07:42 AM
stevesliva Seems to be regurgitating the same source:
http://... Dec 2 2011, 07:56 AM
MahFL The Eyes on the Solar System make my IE 8 crash af... Dec 2 2011, 03:10 PM
djellison QUOTE (MahFL @ Dec 2 2011, 07:10 AM) The ... Dec 2 2011, 06:52 PM
B Bernatchez No problems for me (that wouldn't be fixed by ... Dec 2 2011, 05:42 PM
Mars Attack I'm a bit concerned about the reported reset o... Dec 4 2011, 02:57 PM
stevesliva QUOTE (Mars Attack @ Dec 4 2011, 10:57 AM... Dec 4 2011, 04:55 PM

Mars Attack QUOTE (stevesliva @ Dec 4 2011, 04:55 PM)... Dec 4 2011, 05:20 PM
Paolo QUOTE (Mars Attack @ Dec 4 2011, 03:57 PM... Dec 4 2011, 07:04 PM
ElkGroveDan There is extra fuel aboard and my understanding is... Dec 4 2011, 03:42 PM
centsworth_II QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Dec 4 2011, 10:42 AM... Dec 4 2011, 07:18 PM
Hiwayman Sorry for this being posted in the wrong forum, bu... Dec 4 2011, 03:56 PM
Oersted QUOTE (Hiwayman @ Dec 4 2011, 04:56 PM) S... Dec 4 2011, 08:43 PM
elakdawalla Someone else pointed this out to me on the Atlas f... Dec 4 2011, 04:19 PM
Hiwayman QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Dec 4 2011, 09:19 AM... Dec 4 2011, 04:28 PM
climber QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Dec 4 2011, 05:19 PM... Dec 4 2011, 06:52 PM
djellison From http://trs-new.jpl.nasa.gov/dspace/handle/201... Dec 4 2011, 08:23 PM
nprev Yeah, it really was a sweet launch...and major kud... Dec 4 2011, 08:49 PM
Mars Attack Mr. Doug Djellison, any chance that you could expa... Dec 4 2011, 11:00 PM
djellison We hope to - but it's entirely a matter of bud... Dec 4 2011, 11:12 PM
climber QUOTE (djellison @ Dec 5 2011, 12:12 AM) ... Dec 5 2011, 11:38 AM
punkboi You can now view MSL's current position in spa... Dec 7 2011, 05:57 AM
Syrinx http://space.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/wspace?t...=1... Dec 7 2011, 07:56 AM
Lucas For the impatient among us...
http://space.jpl... Dec 7 2011, 02:56 PM
pospa T +18 days - MSL has about 9% of its cruise done a... Dec 14 2011, 02:32 PM
punkboi Where is Curiosity now? There's now a dedicate... Dec 14 2011, 10:27 PM
Lunik9 New sunspot 1387 erupted during the late hours of ... Dec 26 2011, 09:28 AM
Explorer1 How large would an event have to be to seriously i... Dec 26 2011, 11:40 PM
centsworth_II According to Curiosity and the Solar Storm, CMEs p... Dec 27 2011, 08:05 AM
pospa TCM-1 scheduled for Jan 11th, dv 5,5 m/s.
Then eq... Jan 6 2012, 11:03 PM
pospa TCM-1 completed successfully.
Rob Manning describ... Jan 13 2012, 10:01 AM
Phil Stooke "By the time a CME reaches the Earth-Mars exp... Jan 13 2012, 12:12 PM
climber According to AW&ST next trajectory correction ... Jan 31 2012, 06:53 PM
pospa Not sure if mentioned here before, but radio amate... Feb 6 2012, 09:53 AM
MahFL Software fix for Star Tracker problem.
Tracker Feb 10 2012, 01:37 PM
Mars Attack The computer that received the software fix, is i... Mar 1 2012, 03:36 PM
MahFL QUOTE (Mars Attack @ Mar 1 2012, 03:36 PM... Mar 2 2012, 12:20 AM![]() ![]() |
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