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Feb 23 2005, 12:57 PM
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This seems worthy of a new topic now that we have a higher level in the board
Alan has told us that such a mission is possible and could be launched in 2008-2009. There has already been some press coverage of the idea in this Space.com article Some initial thoughts on what could be discussed here: What changes should be made to the NH science objectives? The new mission trajectory, a Uranus encounter? What changes should be made to the original NH design? How to sell the mission to NASA. -------------------- |
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Oct 25 2005, 07:16 PM
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I've always felt that if you're going to fly two of a given probe, you ought to fly them at roughly the same time. As has been said here before, when NH gets to Pluto it will be using instruments and data systems that are 15 or more years out of date. Why fly a duplicate of such a spacecraft in a few years, when for not much more money we could design and build a more capable spacecraft? At least, a spacecraft that has the benefit of those extra years of improvement and enhancement of the sensing packages?
If you're going to fly NH2, I'd select another one or two KBOs (or other objects) it could reach, and launch it ASAP. That would cost the least amount of additional money and put the existing hardware to the best use. But if you're planning on missions to fly in 5, 10 or more years, I'd simply leave it to a newly-designed probe that will have greater capabilities and give more "bang for the buck." -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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cIclops New Horizons 2 Feb 23 2005, 12:57 PM
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cIclops QUOTE (Alan Stern @ Feb 24 2005, 01:56 AM)Tha... Feb 24 2005, 04:01 PM
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SFJCody After the JGA to Uranus opportunity closes, when w... Mar 2 2005, 01:03 AM
BruceMoomaw "After the JGA to Uranus opportunity closes, ... Mar 2 2005, 08:48 AM
Alan Stern Bruce,
I agree about the lost opportunity for dee... Mar 2 2005, 10:26 AM
clemmentine The PowerPoint Dr. Stern mentioned several posts b... Mar 3 2005, 04:28 AM
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Redstone Alan, what would the deadline for NH2 approval be ... Mar 23 2005, 04:22 PM
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djellison Is the smallest Atlas V much cheaper than the top ... Mar 23 2005, 10:26 PM
Gsnorgathon Alan - best of luck (and skill!) to you on bot... Mar 23 2005, 11:53 PM
Alan Stern From lfrench@iwu.edu Wed May 25 05:01:07 2005
Date... May 25 2005, 11:03 AM
Bob Shaw Alan:
Are there any cost savings on a second spac... May 25 2005, 07:04 PM
Alan Stern QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ May 25 2005, 07:04 PM)Alan:... May 27 2005, 10:35 AM
MiniTES Alan:
What is the significance of the workshop men... May 28 2005, 02:02 PM
Alan Stern QUOTE (MiniTES @ May 28 2005, 02:02 PM)Alan:
... May 29 2005, 01:38 PM
Bjorn Jonsson Having quickly skimmed through the new solar syste... May 29 2005, 02:15 PM
BruceMoomaw Whhile I agree that the chances of NH 2 flying are... May 30 2005, 10:41 AM
Bob Shaw Maybe the answer is to gift the currently built ha... May 30 2005, 10:55 AM
Analyst Sorry Bruce, but I don’t have your (naive) optimis... May 30 2005, 06:04 PM
Alan Stern QUOTE (Analyst @ May 30 2005, 06:04 PM)Sorry ... May 30 2005, 09:33 PM
djellison Somehow, the powers that be dont learn the lessons... May 30 2005, 09:42 PM
tedstryk QUOTE (djellison @ May 30 2005, 09:42 PM)Some... May 31 2005, 02:36 AM
um3k QUOTE (tedstryk @ May 30 2005, 10:36 PM)You c... May 31 2005, 04:53 PM
tedstryk QUOTE (um3k @ May 31 2005, 04:53 PM)Leave out... May 31 2005, 05:24 PM
Analyst A little OT, but has someone heard more about ... May 31 2005, 11:27 AM
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tedstryk I hadn't noticed that. May 31 2005, 08:52 PM
edstrick Mariner 5 was the Engineering Test Vehicle for Mar... Jun 1 2005, 10:07 AM
MiniTES QUOTE (edstrick @ Jun 1 2005, 10:07 AM)Marine... Jun 1 2005, 11:03 PM
Alan Stern Subject: New Horizons 2 and OPAG Next Week
Coll... Jun 2 2005, 03:57 AM
Guido QUOTE (Alan Stern @ Jun 2 2005, 04:57 AM)... Feb 22 2006, 07:31 AM
Alan Stern Advance copy for the PI's Perspective to appea... Feb 26 2006, 02:38 PM
imran Alan,
Thanks for the update. Do you think the re... Jun 2 2005, 03:21 PM
Alan Stern I think it is easier now. The main outer planets c... Jun 2 2005, 03:43 PM
MiniTES QUOTE (Alan Stern @ Jun 2 2005, 03:43 PM)I th... Jun 2 2005, 05:44 PM
Alan Stern QUOTE (MiniTES @ Jun 2 2005, 05:44 PM)What do... Jun 3 2005, 12:43 AM
djellison I noticed in an update that some of the CCD's ... Jun 4 2005, 12:06 AM
Alan Stern Doug- E2V provided the MVIC CCDs in Ralph.
-Alan Jun 4 2005, 03:48 AM
volcanopele Alan,
I would be interested to hear how the OPAG ... Jun 17 2005, 12:09 AM
BruceMoomaw So would I (although I speak as a continuing skept... Jun 17 2005, 07:18 AM
vjkane2000 QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jun 17 2005, 12:18 AM)So... Jun 18 2005, 07:16 AM
JRehling QUOTE (vjkane2000 @ Jun 18 2005, 12:16 AM)As ... Jun 18 2005, 03:24 PM
Alan Stern >This is right. Maybe the legacy of NH2 will be... Jun 19 2005, 01:02 AM
Redstone Here is the OPAG meeting report. It contains a let... Jun 21 2005, 09:59 PM
antoniseb I'm not a strong supporter of NH2 (having hear... Aug 2 2005, 05:25 PM
tedstryk Yes, but with the chaging angle of the Uranian sys... Aug 3 2005, 01:23 PM

ljk4-1 QUOTE (tedstryk @ Aug 3 2005, 08:23 AM)Yes, b... Aug 3 2005, 03:35 PM

tedstryk QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Aug 3 2005, 03:35 PM)Why... Aug 3 2005, 06:11 PM
Jeff7 QUOTE (antoniseb @ Aug 2 2005, 12:25 PM)We ar... Aug 3 2005, 05:17 PM
ljk4-1 QUOTE (Jeff7 @ Aug 3 2005, 12:17 PM)What, the... Aug 3 2005, 05:20 PM
Analyst The problem is: Will they ever get these wonderful... Aug 3 2005, 07:35 AM
BruceMoomaw The Review Panel's report is now out ( http://... Oct 3 2005, 09:54 AM
punkboi QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Oct 3 2005, 02:54 AM)The... Oct 25 2005, 04:56 PM
ljk4-1 So assuming we aren't going to stop exploring ... Oct 25 2005, 05:49 PM
punkboi QUOTE (cIclops @ Feb 23 2005, 05:57 AM)This s... Oct 25 2005, 04:53 PM
Planet X Just wondering, is the NH2 concept dead? I was lo... Jan 9 2006, 11:56 AM
Alan Stern QUOTE (Planet X @ Jan 9 2006, 11:56 AM)Just w... Jan 9 2006, 11:58 AM

ljk4-1 “Preliminary Design of an Advanced Mission to Plut... Feb 11 2006, 04:55 AM
JRehling QUOTE (Planet X @ Jan 9 2006, 03:56 AM) J... Feb 14 2006, 02:08 PM
Rob Pinnegar QUOTE (Planet X @ Jan 9 2006, 05:56 AM) I... Feb 14 2006, 03:17 PM
mhall That Pluto Orbiter document says:
"The curre... Feb 12 2006, 03:44 PM
BruceMoomaw Because the new ones produce that same amount of p... Feb 13 2006, 12:01 AM
mhall Ah! Interesting, and impressive.
Thank you.
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cawest okay i'm new but i have a few q's
what wa... Mar 2 2006, 01:04 PM
djellison Well - stats for an NH2 type launch are not partic... Mar 2 2006, 01:23 PM
BruceMoomaw The Delta 4 Heavy could indeed have sent NH 1 to P... Mar 2 2006, 02:17 PM
Bubbinski Just curious....I read somewhere that the "Gr... Mar 24 2006, 07:14 AM
Toma B QUOTE (Bubbinski @ Mar 24 2006, 10:14 AM)... Mar 24 2006, 08:11 AM

ugordan QUOTE At this point, Voyager's had been sped u... Mar 24 2006, 08:41 AM

Toma B QUOTE (ugordan @ Mar 24 2006, 11:41 AM) A... Mar 24 2006, 08:49 AM

ugordan QUOTE (TomaB @ Mar 24 2006, 09:49 AM) You... Mar 24 2006, 08:52 AM
JRehling QUOTE (Bubbinski @ Mar 23 2006, 11:14 PM)... Mar 24 2006, 02:47 PM
BruceMoomaw It has been pointed out that with a solar sail, yo... Mar 24 2006, 03:26 PM
Bubbinski Thanks Bruce. I didn't think about the sun... Mar 29 2006, 09:36 PM
BruceMoomaw I can't remember whether these have been menti... Apr 16 2006, 02:09 AM
ugordan QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Apr 16 2006, 03:09 A... Apr 16 2006, 11:22 AM
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