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Jan 7 2012, 08:29 PM
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the GEMS Discovery finalist has been renamed InSight and now has its own website: http://insight.jpl.nasa.gov/
-------------------- I'm one of the most durable and fervent advocates of space exploration, but my take is that we could do it robotically at far less cost and far greater quantity and quality of results.
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Jan 10 2012, 02:44 AM
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QUOTE Too bad a pair of DS2 seismographs couldn't be dropped off the deck as is falls Exactly what I was thinking! Its too bad that penetrator technology seems to have gone nowhere since then, and Im not just talking about for Mars. Still, here we all are musing about bolting stuff onto a Discovery class proposal, stuff that wouldnt make it a Discovery class proposal any more. That cap is why I love TiME so much, assuming they CAN actually fly the thing under the cap... P |
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Jan 10 2012, 03:34 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 161 Joined: 15-August 07 From: Shrewsbury, Shropshire Member No.: 3233 |
I assume that there is a mission assumption is that the solar panels will continue to suppy power for much more than 90 days. I understand that the Pathfinder lander only lasted 90 days because of a complete lack of cleaning winds. The question that I want to ask is how common are cleaning winds on Mars? Perhaps the only safe landing site for the InSight mission is the Opportunity landing elipse? At least there cleaning winds are guaranteed.
I also wonder how much of its potential payload mass this mission is using? Would it really cost anything for the odd Phoenix instrument to be reflown? I would like to see Lidar reflown to a landing site where it could operate for longer than a very limited 150 days. Obviously the most important missing instrument is a camera to scan the horizon. Would a pair of black and white Navcams cost much to fly? I guess that Navcams are two a penny given the number of spare Navcams that are flying on MSL. |
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Jan 10 2012, 03:42 PM
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. I understand that the Pathfinder lander only lasted 90 days because of a complete lack of cleaning winds. No- the battery died. It was a silver-zinc battery, and couldn't withstand the manifold charging cycles that more recent technologies can. Estimate were between 30 and 100 recharges would be the end of it. It lasted 83 sols (not 90) Thereafter, the lander couldn't keep itself warm at night, and presumed failures of other components quickly followed. The Level 1 requirement was a month. |
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Paolo InSight mission Jan 7 2012, 08:29 PM
Greg Hullender I was going to say I was amazed that we've rea... Jan 7 2012, 09:33 PM
vjkane QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Jan 7 2012, 01:33... Jan 8 2012, 12:26 AM
nprev Hmm. I read through the site & the poster, and... Jan 8 2012, 01:47 AM
vjkane QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 7 2012, 05:47 PM) I re... Jan 8 2012, 07:07 AM
djellison QUOTE (vjkane @ Jan 7 2012, 11:07 PM) If ... Jan 8 2012, 05:11 PM
vjkane QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 8 2012, 09:11 AM) ... Jan 8 2012, 06:08 PM
Greg Hullender Oh I definitely love the idea of building new prob... Jan 8 2012, 01:50 AM
Fran Ontanaya Is there a big difference between this mission and... Jan 8 2012, 03:12 PM
Phil Stooke One additional point about cameras... it is essent... Jan 8 2012, 05:32 PM
vjkane QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jan 8 2012, 09:32 AM... Jan 8 2012, 06:34 PM
Greg Hullender Here's a completely different question: to get... Jan 8 2012, 06:59 PM
Drkskywxlt QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Jan 8 2012, 01:59... Jan 8 2012, 07:34 PM
ElkGroveDan QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Jan 8 2012, 10:59... Jan 9 2012, 08:50 PM
djellison You don't need a descent imager to exactly loc... Jan 8 2012, 07:03 PM
Phil Stooke But we may not have it in 2016. Almost certainly ... Jan 8 2012, 07:23 PM
hendric I think they're some work you can do with dire... Jan 9 2012, 07:40 PM
stewjack Warning I am not a geologist.
My impression, when... Jan 9 2012, 09:25 PM
vikingmars QUOTE (PaulM @ Jan 10 2012, 04:34 PM) I u... Mar 28 2012, 11:03 AM
Drkskywxlt I'm guessing the mission is more cost-limited ... Jan 10 2012, 03:42 PM
Phil Stooke A few new details about the mission, from Bruce Ba... Mar 23 2012, 01:06 PM
MERovingian Happy Day!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/nati... Aug 20 2012, 07:01 PM
Hungry4info Awesome! Mars! I can't remember the la... Aug 20 2012, 07:18 PM
Phil Stooke Good one, Hungry! I would have liked any of ... Aug 20 2012, 07:55 PM
Paolo press release New NASA Mission to Take First Look ... Aug 20 2012, 08:41 PM
Paolo interesting... the German heat probe "mole... Aug 20 2012, 09:24 PM
djellison That's cool - PLUTO was an awesome and cunning... Aug 20 2012, 09:26 PM
SFJCody Does seem like a shame that only one copy of this ... Aug 21 2012, 05:25 AM
gndonald QUOTE (SFJCody @ Aug 21 2012, 01:25 PM) D... Aug 21 2012, 10:57 AM

MahFL QUOTE (gndonald @ Aug 21 2012, 11:57 AM) ... Aug 21 2012, 11:34 AM
JRehling Mars Geophysical network options with anywhere fro... Aug 21 2012, 09:07 PM
Toma B From Bruce Betts blog on PS...
QUOTE The lander wi... Aug 21 2012, 07:37 AM
monty python and BTW. Is there a word about where it should be ... Aug 21 2012, 08:05 AM
Gsnorgathon Given the high elevation at Tharsis, I'd guess... Aug 21 2012, 08:11 AM
Explorer1 Maybe Elysium instead? Oh, what I'd give to fi... Aug 21 2012, 08:23 AM
antipode I was thinking Elysium as well, but Elysium PLANIT... Aug 21 2012, 10:09 AM
MahFL Forget pretty pics, the science is literally under... Aug 21 2012, 10:37 AM
Drkskywxlt QUOTE (antipode @ Aug 21 2012, 06:09 AM) ... Aug 21 2012, 10:56 AM
cIclops Good news from NASA's Mars program at last... Aug 21 2012, 11:35 AM
pospa QUOTE (cIclops @ Aug 21 2012, 01:35 PM) S... Aug 21 2012, 11:55 AM
Drkskywxlt QUOTE (cIclops @ Aug 21 2012, 06:35 AM) G... Aug 21 2012, 03:11 PM
centsworth_II I don't know if there are other candidates.
h... Aug 21 2012, 12:19 PM
Phil Stooke There was a poster on the landing site at LPSC in ... Aug 21 2012, 03:00 PM
vjkane A Universe Today article stated that the landing s... Aug 21 2012, 11:31 PM
Drkskywxlt QUOTE (vjkane @ Aug 21 2012, 07:31 PM) In... Aug 21 2012, 11:45 PM
rlorenz QUOTE (Drkskywxlt @ Aug 21 2012, 06:45 PM... Sep 9 2012, 05:25 PM
NickF I suppose that (re)flying the Planetary Society... Aug 22 2012, 02:38 AM
climber QUOTE (NickF @ Aug 22 2012, 04:38 AM) I s... Aug 22 2012, 06:52 AM
briv1016 Any word on a launch vehicle? An Atlas V seems ki... Aug 22 2012, 06:46 AM
Mongo QUOTE (briv1016 @ Aug 22 2012, 07:46 AM) ... Aug 22 2012, 04:32 PM
SFJCody QUOTE (Mongo @ Aug 23 2012, 02:32 AM) It ... Aug 22 2012, 11:42 PM
Paolo cool video on the German heat probe
http://www.dlr... Aug 22 2012, 07:33 AM
dvandorn Remember too, if you start saying "Hey, with ... Aug 23 2012, 12:51 AM
climber Yep, I guess that the TPS microphone would be the ... Aug 23 2012, 08:25 AM
briv1016 Taking another look at the animation video it appe... Aug 23 2012, 08:53 AM
centsworth_II QUOTE (briv1016 @ Aug 23 2012, 03:53 AM) ... Aug 23 2012, 12:50 PM
stevesliva QUOTE (briv1016 @ Aug 23 2012, 03:53 AM) ... Aug 23 2012, 09:21 PM
antipode QUOTE Any word on a launch vehicle? An Atlas V see... Aug 24 2012, 08:35 AM
SFJCody Following on from the earlier active seismic exper... Aug 25 2012, 05:02 AM
nprev Couple things here to keep in mind:
1. F9 Heavy h... Aug 25 2012, 05:17 AM
SFJCody QUOTE (nprev @ Aug 25 2012, 03:17 PM) Not... Aug 25 2012, 05:27 AM
djellison We already know from the fresh craters found by CT... Aug 25 2012, 05:59 AM
JRehling There are a lot of issues on the deliberate-thump ... Aug 28 2012, 04:44 AM
JRehling Here's a piece about the seismometer which wil... Aug 29 2012, 11:35 PM
climber There is something confusing to me. On January 17t... Aug 27 2012, 01:59 PM
tolis Hi All,
On the subject of Phobos tides, one facto... Aug 28 2012, 09:11 AM
Paolo a few (small) pics of the seismometer on the blog ... Aug 30 2012, 05:20 AM
Yooper Hi!
Does anyone have a link to the August 20 ... Sep 5 2012, 01:52 PM
arachnitect QUOTE (Yooper @ Sep 5 2012, 08:52 AM) Hi... Sep 8 2012, 04:01 PM
Yooper QUOTE (arachnitect @ Sep 8 2012, 11:01 AM... Sep 9 2012, 10:00 PM
Yooper Hello – two layperson questions about InSight’s se... Sep 14 2012, 04:34 PM
JRehling QUOTE (Yooper @ Sep 14 2012, 09:34 AM) ho... Sep 14 2012, 07:54 PM
rlorenz QUOTE (Yooper @ Sep 14 2012, 12:34 PM) Tw... Sep 14 2012, 10:35 PM
Yooper Thanks! BTW, in a odd twist of timing, I just ... Sep 21 2012, 10:40 AM
Explorer1 Apparently the general region for landing has been... Apr 1 2013, 06:25 AM![]() ![]() |
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