The end of MESSENGER's mission, What happens after March 2013? |
The end of MESSENGER's mission, What happens after March 2013? |
Apr 21 2012, 10:08 AM
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I know nothing about either the technological constraints or the funding possibilities, but I was wondering if anyone knew what might happen to the probe once the extended mission at Mercury comes to an end. Is it definitely going to be decommissioned? Or is there a chance of sending it somewhere else? Is there sufficient propellant to allow it to break orbit using the LVA, and (say) conduct a flyby of an Aten or Apollo asteroid? I do not know how much delta-v would be required to do this, or even if there are any targets in favourable positions, but it would (to my untrained eye) be an excellent reuse of what has proven itself to be a very capable spacecraft.
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Apr 24 2012, 08:33 PM
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No chance of Messenger spiralling sunwards I suppose, and snapping some solar limb movies on the way in ???
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Apr 24 2012, 10:56 PM
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Moving into a gravity well is just as hard as getting out.
You've all seen those spiral wishing wells for coins: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3449/328365...e235f0e17_o.jpg Moving in or out of a gravity well requires propulsion in proportion to the local slope, which gets steepest at the center. A minimum-energy trajectory from Uranus to Neptune would require little impulse. Going from Mercury to the Sun would require more propulsion than any other two-body cruise in the solar system. Going from Earth to the Sun would require more energy than from the Earth to any other object in the universe. (Of course, a cruise from Earth to another galaxy would take a long TIME, but not as much energy as a cruise to the Sun.) This is a key reason why it took so long to follow up on Mariner 10 and why Messenger utilized so many gravity assists. Moreover, there's nothing much that Messenger could do in solar observation that a much bigger earthbound telescope can't do better from three times further away. Finally, the planet itself has a nontrivial escape velocity. It's only slightly less than Mars's. There's one intriguing science target left for Messenger, and that's Mercury itself. |
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May 8 2012, 09:04 PM
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...Going from Earth to the Sun would require more energy than from the Earth to any other object in the universe. (Of course, a cruise from Earth to another galaxy would take a long TIME, but not as much energy as a cruise to the Sun.)... Not to quibble, and take a seriously off topic tangent, but wouldn't it take a huge amount of energy to escape our galactic orbit? I think we'd need to change velocity about 200 miles/second to get to Sgr A*, which is way more than the mere 19 miles a second for the Earth-Sun trip. |
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Seryddwr The end of MESSENGER's mission Apr 21 2012, 10:08 AM
Paolo with all the oxidizer used during the latest orbit... Apr 21 2012, 10:57 AM
Paolo I have checked the biography of spaceflight mechan... Apr 21 2012, 11:07 AM
Phil Stooke Impact on Mercury is the final act of Messenger... Apr 21 2012, 12:28 PM
Seryddwr Thanks both for your replies. It's sad in one... Apr 21 2012, 12:50 PM
Bill Harris I imagine that having perfected the Skeet Shooting... Apr 21 2012, 09:19 PM
brellis Just for curiosity's sake, how far away from t... Apr 22 2012, 01:56 AM
Phil Stooke Most likely it could do no more than limp into a s... Apr 22 2012, 03:17 AM
Paolo digging in my library I have found this, from Avia... Apr 22 2012, 09:54 AM
stevesliva Any proposals they have for end of mission likely ... Apr 24 2012, 12:12 AM
Eutectic QUOTE (jasedm @ Apr 24 2012, 02:33 PM) No... May 5 2012, 05:42 PM
djellison Given that it took a very large MOI burn to get IN... Apr 24 2012, 10:38 PM
Explorer1 I doubt the camera is even designed to image the s... May 6 2012, 05:24 AM
djellison QUOTE (Explorer1 @ May 5 2012, 09:24 PM) ... May 6 2012, 05:41 PM
nprev A 15 nm orbit sounds fascinating, but I wonder if ... May 6 2012, 05:26 PM
ugordan Keep in mind MESSENGER's orbital velocity is a... May 6 2012, 05:30 PM
Stu ...and if we could find a wardrobe big enough, it ... May 8 2012, 09:35 PM
brellis It's a bit disappointing to characterize the e... May 9 2012, 01:19 AM
djellison There's no soft way of doing it. Indeed, a mo... May 9 2012, 01:29 AM
Phil Stooke If you come in slower there should be more time to... May 9 2012, 03:41 AM
Gsnorgathon Does anyone know if any provision is being made to... May 10 2012, 12:49 AM
Phil Stooke One point about this - there's no fuel left to... May 10 2012, 01:58 AM
TheAnt QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ May 10 2012, 03:58 A... Oct 11 2012, 05:15 PM
Paolo I have received a copy of this paper http://www.ia... Oct 11 2012, 07:23 AM
Paolo by the time of impact, solar perturbations will ha... Oct 11 2012, 05:48 PM![]() ![]() |
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