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Are these the real Martian colors? |
Aug 7 2012, 03:11 PM
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We've just got the first color picture from MSL today
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/images/?ImageID=4282 if I understood it well, this is the first time ever that a real color camera has been sent to the Red planet. Something is nagging me though, and certainly this is here in UMSF that I will get the correct and definitive answer. Since the 70s and the Viking missions, there's always been debates about the real color of the surface and skies of Mars. They had indeed come up with funny results during the Viking missions with nearly blue skies! Then came the MERs, and the pictures were, and still are (go Oppy go!), taken through three filters, and then it's all a question of mixing all this together (by now you must have guessed that I am neither a photographer nor a photoshoper!). But as often seen here on this site, everyone has then hers or his own interpretation when it comes to the final result. I have indeed seen here much better looking Martian pics than on the MER site (sometimes, not always) All this to say that up until this morning, we weren't 100% sure that what we were seing was the real Mars, in its true colors but a very close aproximation. Correct? So my question is this: is this picture from MSL the very first one to show us the real Martian colors?? Thanks. |
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Aug 21 2012, 04:40 AM
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MMM uses plain vanilla JPEG with either 4:4:4 or 4:2:2 chroma subsampling (and grayscale luminance only for the narrowband filters.) The dimensional limits referred to only apply to constraints of image size set by the hardware compressor (and only apply if you want the thumbnail to be exactly 8x smaller with no dropped pixels.)
The main advantage that we have for "true color" is that the Bayer color responses are similar to the eye's, rather than being the square narrowband RGB filters used on MER. In my experience with sunlight illumination you really don't have to do any white balancing and the out-of-camera JPEG color is pretty accurate. See http://www.msss.com/images/science/mastcam...nyona19i_cc.jpg, which was brightened very slightly but looks fairly accurate without any processing. -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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MERovingian Are these the real Martian colors? Aug 7 2012, 03:11 PM
Deimos Well, it is known that Bayer filters hold the magi... Aug 7 2012, 04:51 PM
RoverDriver QUOTE (Deimos @ Aug 7 2012, 09:51 AM) Wel... Aug 7 2012, 05:02 PM
ugordan QUOTE (Deimos @ Aug 7 2012, 06:51 PM) Wel... Aug 7 2012, 09:43 PM
RoverDriver QUOTE (ugordan @ Aug 7 2012, 02:43 PM) Th... Aug 7 2012, 11:33 PM
ugordan QUOTE (RoverDriver @ Aug 8 2012, 01:33 AM... Aug 8 2012, 07:15 AM
RoverDriver QUOTE (ugordan @ Aug 8 2012, 12:15 AM) On... Aug 8 2012, 07:22 AM
ugordan QUOTE (RoverDriver @ Aug 8 2012, 09:22 AM... Aug 8 2012, 07:43 AM
Deimos QUOTE (ugordan @ Aug 8 2012, 07:43 AM) I ... Aug 8 2012, 08:27 AM
RoverDriver QUOTE (ugordan @ Aug 8 2012, 12:43 AM) I ... Aug 12 2012, 07:49 PM
siravan QUOTE (ugordan @ Aug 8 2012, 02:43 AM) I ... Aug 12 2012, 08:17 PM
ugordan Yes, yes, I know about hazcams (or indeed all came... Aug 12 2012, 08:24 PM
siravan There is a sentence in the Mastcam description htt... Aug 12 2012, 10:02 PM
ugordan I think that's rather some hardware/software c... Aug 12 2012, 10:08 PM
Deimos Note that Mastcam thumbnails are 8x8 times smaller... Aug 12 2012, 11:28 PM
MERovingian Alas, I was born a good hundred years too early fo... Aug 7 2012, 06:18 PM
machi True colors is relative concept. I don't know ... Aug 7 2012, 09:32 PM
lyford Perceived color is such a complex interplay of ele... Aug 7 2012, 09:35 PM
elakdawalla I like that underwater analogy, it's very good... Aug 7 2012, 09:42 PM
imipak See also:
Nagel, Thomas: "What Is It... Aug 7 2012, 09:45 PM
JohnVV After years of working in color photo darkrooms
I... Aug 7 2012, 09:48 PM
fredk QUOTE (JohnVV @ Aug 7 2012, 09:48 PM) I c... Aug 12 2012, 06:21 PM
Malmer QUOTE (fredk @ Aug 12 2012, 08:21 PM) As ... Aug 15 2012, 10:10 AM
Explorer1 And of course, even if one was 'standing on Ma... Aug 8 2012, 12:33 AM
Bjorn Jonsson QUOTE (Explorer1 @ Aug 8 2012, 12:33 AM) ... Aug 8 2012, 12:54 AM
Explorer1 And our pictures from the lunar surface look just ... Aug 8 2012, 03:45 AM
dvandorn QUOTE (Explorer1 @ Aug 7 2012, 10:45 PM) ... Aug 8 2012, 04:00 AM
djellison FWIW - accounting for the dust cover - it looks pr... Aug 8 2012, 06:19 AM
dvandorn This discussion reminds me very much of one of the... Aug 21 2012, 03:36 AM
Bobby Richardson A wonderful, and informative, discussion; and some... Oct 31 2015, 10:02 AM
JohnVV bobby
if you watched the movie "the Martian... Nov 1 2015, 01:07 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (JohnVV @ Oct 31 2015, 06:07 PM) if... Nov 1 2015, 07:20 AM
elakdawalla QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Oct 31 2015, 11:20 PM... Nov 1 2015, 09:37 PM
Explorer1 Maybe they also looked at the test images taken on... Nov 1 2015, 07:43 AM
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Herobrine QUOTE (scalbers @ Nov 15 2015, 01:50 PM) ... Nov 15 2015, 08:10 PM
Gerald Here a version with a color-corrected Sol 1157 MAH... Nov 15 2015, 08:45 PM
scalbers I go more for the colors (and intensities) in my r... Nov 15 2015, 09:38 PM![]() ![]() |
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