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MSL Post Landing - Commissioning Period & Early Observations, Commissioning Activity Period 1B - Sols 9 through 16
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post Aug 20 2012, 03:36 PM
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Here's my interpretation of Paolo's proposed route description:

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And my guess for the outlines of the three terrain types around Glenelg:

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As people have pointed out, it looks like the actual junction is hidden by the foreground.
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post Aug 20 2012, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Aug 20 2012, 04:51 PM) *
Looks like they imaged Mt Sharp with mastcam34 (and parts with mastcam100!) on sol 13. Thumbnails are avaiable.

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/raw/?s=13


Are you sure for Mastcam100 ? Because this camera is located at the Right side of the Mast, not the Left. And all I see is "L" in the filenames. Maybe it's just subframed pictures ?


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post Aug 20 2012, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE (Ant103 @ Aug 20 2012, 05:41 PM) *
Are you sure for Mastcam100 ?

Definitely. See this thumbnail for example.


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post Aug 20 2012, 03:49 PM
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They moved Curiosities arm.
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post Aug 20 2012, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE (fredk @ Aug 20 2012, 08:36 AM) *
Here's my interpretation of Paolo's proposed route description:

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And my guess for the outlines of the three terrain types around Glenelg:

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As people have pointed out, it looks like the actual junction is hidden by the foreground.


Correct, except that I'm not sure how close we will be driving to the halfway point and how close to the overlook point. And you are correct, Gleneleg is not visible from here. Maybe if we stick up the arm and take a MAHLI but I doubt we would be seeing it anyway.

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post Aug 20 2012, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE (ugordan @ Aug 20 2012, 05:45 PM) *
Definitely. See this thumbnail for example.


Okay ! I was checking the wrong "folder". Thanks smile.gif


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post Aug 20 2012, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE (RoverDriver @ Aug 20 2012, 08:57 AM) *
Maybe if we stick up the arm and take a MAHLI but I doubt we would be seeing it anyway.


Oh now that would be amusing, concert crowd style pictures..... All we need now is an oxygen atmosphere and a lighter.... More seriously would you really gain much height over the mast? If so how much are we looking at?
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post Aug 20 2012, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE (akuo @ Aug 19 2012, 12:12 PM) *
I think the Chemcam laser has fired. At least there seems to be a new spot on the calibration target.
I can see that animating the cal target over the course of the mission is going to be fun. Bang! Bang! Bangbangbang!

QUOTE (MichaelJWP @ Aug 20 2012, 03:29 AM) *
Basically is there anywhere JPL posts a "sol-by-sol" list of what's planned in terms of surface operations for Curiosity for the next few sols?

Not really. They use the teleconferences to do that. There are two scheduled this week, for tomorrow and Thursday. Watch them on JPL's ustream (ustream.tv/nasajpl)


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post Aug 20 2012, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE (Pete B. @ Aug 20 2012, 10:57 AM) *
I thought at the time that he meant a 2m drop into the high TI terrain from the triple junction.


That was my interpretation as well.

Mount Sharp anaglyphs? Arm deploy? Laser pits?! Oh my god it's getting too exciting around here!

[grabs paper bag to breath into]

#PewPew !
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post Aug 20 2012, 06:27 PM
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Has the rover moved? New hazcam view of Mt. Sharp:

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/pr...FHAZ00200M_.JPG

That image was taken about 5 hours ago, sol 14.


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post Aug 20 2012, 06:40 PM
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Doesn't look like either the rover or the wheels moved.

Compare to Left Front Hazcam image from Sol 0..
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post Aug 20 2012, 07:18 PM
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Per http://www.space.com/17174-mars-rover-curi...eadline+Feed%29, should be steering actuator tests tosol, first movement sol 16.
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post Aug 20 2012, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE (pgrindrod @ Aug 20 2012, 07:00 AM) *
For anybody interested, I wrote a blog post about my thoughts on the geological context of the landing site, including more of this GIS stuff, and how it might all fit into the story of Mars.


Nice, thanks!
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post Aug 20 2012, 07:37 PM
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On the topic of picturing the height of the visible part of the mound, it's around 12 degrees above the true (level) horizon at its highest. Your outstretched fist is about 10 degrees wide:

It's very high in altitude above the floor of Gale, but it's also very far away, so the peak's not very high in the sky. This also shows how getting the sun into the camera's field of view was never a problem.
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post Aug 20 2012, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE (pgrindrod @ Aug 20 2012, 01:00 PM) *
For anybody interested, I wrote a blog post about my thoughts on the geological context of the landing site, including more of this GIS stuff, and how it might all fit into the story of Mars.

Pete


I'm glad we'll be seeing some of the alluvial fan before heading off to the mound. But I'm still a little confused about the high TI unit. We're expecting it to be composed of clays formed from the finest particles that precipitated out as the influx petered out and dried up. But dry clay actually has a low thermal inertia - Liang et al. list it as 550 Ws1/2m-2K-1 compared to dry sand at 590 and granite at 2200. Wet clay obviously has a much higher TI, but I don't think anyone's expecting this area to still be wet smile.gif. I'm not a geologist, so what am I missing here? Obviously this clay formed a long time ago, would it have undergone some form of alteration that changed its properties compared to fresh clay?

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it’s just that only the Skycrane technology on MSL has allowed the landing ellipse to shrink enough to touch down safely in the crater floor

Actually, I got the impression that the real star of the EDL that allowed the ellipse to shrink so much was the novel guided entry manoeuvre using banking turns to achieve a precise flight path after the entry interface. The Skycrane got all the press because it's sexier smile.gif. Great blog post, summarises the objectives very clearly.
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