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CosmicRocker
post Aug 16 2012, 11:05 PM
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I'm still trying to figure out a number of things about the new images we are trying to work with. Assuming others are likewise trying to learn, I thought I would open this thread to create a place for such discussions.

I'd like to start out with a comment about raw image contrast. There have been several postings in the main threads about whether or not the MSL raw images have been stretched like those from the MER missions. I am certainly no expert on this, but it looks to me as if the MSL images have not been stretched at all. I haven't tried to analyze all of the image types, but the hazcams and navcams have pixel brightness histograms that are very different from their MER counterparts.

This attached image compares MER and MSL navcams along with their luminosity histograms.
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The MSL images clearly are not using the entire, available range of brightness values, whereas the MER raws do. For this reason, the MSL raw images can usually be nicely enhanced by simply stretching the distribution of brightness across the full 256 value range.


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- CosmicRocker   MSL Images & Cameras   Aug 16 2012, 11:05 PM
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- - mhoward   Currently Midnight Planets adjusts all the MMM jpg...   Mar 24 2014, 11:07 PM
- - JohnVV   Thanks everyone for the continued responses in th...   Mar 25 2014, 12:02 AM
- - Ant103   Hmmm… So, now the image filename of Mastcams have...   Mar 25 2014, 11:00 AM
- - fredk   I don't know if this is different on mac, but ...   Mar 25 2014, 03:33 PM
- - elakdawalla   I have repeatedly tried to ask JPL Mars Public Eng...   Mar 25 2014, 03:53 PM
|- - mhoward   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Mar 25 2014, 09:53 A...   Mar 25 2014, 06:16 PM
|- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (mhoward @ Mar 25 2014, 11:16 AM) I...   Mar 25 2014, 08:49 PM
|- - mhoward   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Mar 25 2014, 01:49 P...   Mar 28 2014, 02:07 PM
- - RoverDriver   AFAIK JPL web servers are not allowed to let you a...   Mar 25 2014, 04:46 PM
- - Ant103   Thanks Fredk, looks like it works But, as you ...   Mar 25 2014, 06:54 PM
- - mhoward   Holy wow. Yeah, let me get back to you on that.   Mar 26 2014, 01:21 AM
- - jmknapp   Emily, This is a simple listing of the images by ...   Mar 27 2014, 02:31 AM
- - elakdawalla   Joe: Yes, exactly that, it's extremely helpful...   Mar 28 2014, 03:11 PM
- - mhoward   For completeness, I've added the ChemCam targe...   Mar 28 2014, 08:03 PM
- - anticitizen2   QUOTE (fredk @ Mar 11 2014, 11:18 AM) If ...   Apr 15 2014, 11:04 PM
- - wildespace   Forgive me if this has already been discussed, but...   May 3 2014, 11:24 AM
- - elakdawalla   I don't know for certain but have always specu...   May 3 2014, 03:44 PM
- - Gerald   Surface roughness estimate, derived from Joe's...   Sep 1 2014, 12:33 PM
- - RoverDriver   Which image did you use? Non-map projected, map p...   Sep 2 2014, 05:30 PM
- - Gerald   The starting point has been this screenshot of Joe...   Sep 2 2014, 06:13 PM
- - RoverDriver   What kind of image processing software did you use...   Sep 2 2014, 06:56 PM
- - Gerald   PhotoScape v.3.6.2, no updates (for brighness stre...   Sep 2 2014, 09:05 PM
- - RoverDriver   Thanks. I'll see if I can duplicate the map. ...   Sep 2 2014, 11:04 PM
- - jmknapp   The HiRISE imagery is from ESP018854. Here's a...   Sep 2 2014, 11:20 PM
- - RoverDriver   OK, thanks. I had done something similar, hipass a...   Sep 3 2014, 04:09 AM
- - Gerald   Hipass taken allone plus blur eliminates small nei...   Sep 3 2014, 02:32 PM
- - wildespace   The Mastcam shows a nice Depth of Field in this im...   Sep 18 2014, 04:57 PM
- - Gerald   Thanks a lot! I'll take it as an invitatio...   Sep 27 2014, 07:45 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Gerald @ Sep 27 2014, 12:45 AM) di...   Sep 27 2014, 05:14 PM
- - Gerald   Thanks for your patience, Mike! According to y...   Sep 27 2014, 09:40 PM
|- - fredk   QUOTE (Gerald @ Sep 27 2014, 10:40 PM) sq...   Sep 28 2014, 01:59 AM
|- - Gerald   QUOTE (fredk @ Sep 28 2014, 03:59 AM) Ver...   Oct 4 2014, 01:42 PM
- - Astro0   From a member in the Pahrump Hills thread: "C...   Sep 28 2014, 12:37 PM
- - wildespace   I hope you can help me understand something about ...   Oct 7 2014, 03:36 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (wildespace @ Oct 7 2014, 08:36 AM)...   Oct 7 2014, 03:55 PM
|- - Gerald   QUOTE (wildespace @ Oct 7 2014, 05:36 PM)...   Oct 7 2014, 04:23 PM
|- - fredk   QUOTE (wildespace @ Oct 7 2014, 03:36 PM)...   Oct 7 2014, 05:29 PM
||- - Gerald   No, MC is to be corrected by (1.20,1.0,1.25), and ...   Oct 7 2014, 05:54 PM
|- - Deimos   QUOTE (wildespace @ Oct 7 2014, 04:36 PM)...   Oct 8 2014, 12:50 AM
- - Phil Stooke   If only things could be just black and white, like...   Oct 7 2014, 05:15 PM
- - fredk   What do you base that on? Did you compare MAHLI P...   Oct 7 2014, 09:02 PM
- - Gerald   M.Caplinger's posts #166 and #405 of this thre...   Oct 7 2014, 09:58 PM
- - fredk   The image in post 166 is mastcam, and post 405 als...   Oct 8 2014, 12:04 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (fredk @ Oct 7 2014, 05:04 PM) The ...   Oct 8 2014, 12:25 AM
- - James Sorenson   QUOTE (wildespace @ Oct 7 2014, 08:36 AM)...   Oct 8 2014, 12:33 AM
- - JohnVV   Non scientific but ... I have stated this before b...   Oct 8 2014, 03:05 AM
- - mcaplinger   Everyone's subjective opinion about what the i...   Oct 8 2014, 05:18 AM
|- - James Sorenson   And I can't express more how much it is a trea...   Oct 8 2014, 05:30 AM
||- - ugordan   QUOTE (James Sorenson @ Oct 8 2014, 07:30...   Oct 8 2014, 01:49 PM
|- - Gerald   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Oct 8 2014, 07:18 AM)...   Oct 8 2014, 12:12 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Gerald @ Oct 8 2014, 05:12 AM) Is ...   Oct 10 2014, 03:57 AM
- - elakdawalla   I've been writing the MAHLI section in my book...   Oct 27 2014, 08:13 PM
- - Gerald   A ruler based on the formulas in the paper: Note,...   Dec 5 2014, 12:54 AM
|- - PaulH51   Looking for advice : We have recently seen the m...   Feb 25 2015, 12:41 PM
- - Gerald   Hi Paul, that's not really an issue. The Bayer...   Feb 25 2015, 01:34 PM
|- - PaulH51   QUOTE (Gerald @ Feb 25 2015, 09:34 PM) Hi...   Feb 25 2015, 02:27 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Gerald @ Feb 25 2015, 06:34 AM) Fo...   Feb 25 2015, 03:40 PM
- - fredk   Having the lossless Bayer-encoded images will defi...   Feb 25 2015, 04:28 PM
|- - PaulH51   QUOTE (fredk @ Feb 26 2015, 12:28 AM) Hav...   Mar 12 2015, 10:41 AM
|- - Gerald   QUOTE (PaulH51 @ Mar 12 2015, 11:41 AM) ....   Mar 12 2015, 06:11 PM
|- - PaulH51   QUOTE (Gerald @ Mar 13 2015, 02:11 AM) As...   Mar 13 2015, 02:18 AM
- - elakdawalla   There's nothing for JPL to "revert" ...   Mar 12 2015, 03:08 PM
|- - vikingmars   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Mar 12 2015, 04:08 P...   Mar 13 2015, 08:25 AM
- - Herobrine   I recently started trying to process MARDI EDRs. I...   Oct 1 2015, 11:24 AM
- - Herobrine   I haven't posted a followup to my previous pos...   Oct 6 2015, 09:47 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Herobrine @ Oct 6 2015, 02:47 PM) ...   Oct 7 2015, 01:34 AM
- - fredk   Maybe I'm missing something but if you're ...   Oct 6 2015, 10:25 PM
|- - Herobrine   I was trying to correct the smear in a way that re...   Oct 6 2015, 10:48 PM
- - fredk   Are the large-scale brightness variations determin...   Oct 6 2015, 11:41 PM
- - Herobrine   QUOTE (fredk @ Oct 6 2015, 07:41 PM) Are ...   Oct 7 2015, 05:13 AM
- - Herobrine   I wanted to provide a sort of update and also corr...   Oct 13 2015, 07:47 PM
- - charborob   I noticed that navcam images taken in the general ...   Dec 28 2015, 12:11 PM
- - Deimos   It is certainly possible. But it seems to me that ...   Dec 28 2015, 03:03 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (Deimos @ Dec 28 2015, 04:03 PM) ma...   Dec 28 2015, 05:05 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (ugordan @ Dec 28 2015, 09:05 AM) I...   Dec 28 2015, 05:12 PM
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|- - yogi   QUOTE (James Sorenson @ Jan 17 2016, 08:0...   Jan 17 2016, 08:45 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (yogi @ Jan 17 2016, 12:45 PM) I...   Jan 17 2016, 09:30 PM
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- - James Sorenson   Here is some examples that I quickly through toget...   Jan 18 2016, 03:01 AM
|- - yogi   Those look awesome, thanks! I'll look at t...   Jan 18 2016, 09:22 PM
|- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (James Sorenson @ Jan 17 2016, 07:0...   Jan 20 2016, 12:50 AM
|- - yogi   James - I noticed that your mosaic used the availa...   Apr 4 2016, 10:09 AM
|- - yogi   To give a more concrete example, compare the IMG f...   Apr 4 2016, 01:14 PM
|- - James Sorenson   QUOTE (yogi @ Apr 4 2016, 02:09 AM) James...   Apr 4 2016, 07:43 PM
|- - yogi   QUOTE (James Sorenson @ Apr 5 2016, 06:43...   Apr 5 2016, 04:09 AM
- - Sean   Many thanks for your post James... super informati...   Jan 19 2016, 06:41 PM
- - JohnVV   for pds img/lbl files i use ISIS3 from the USGS/JP...   Apr 4 2016, 01:18 PM
- - Deimos   "Dark" was taken within an hour of sunse...   Apr 4 2016, 04:26 PM
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