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Nov 16 2012, 01:59 AM
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Evidence of the diurnal pressure cycle in the radiation detector data, and the suggestion of dust devil encounters in the meteorology package (REMS) data.
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?rele...elease_2012-361 Suggests 'over 20' events with one or more in-situ signatures of dust devil encounters (e.g. pressure drop, wind direction change etc.) In 12 weeks that means only ~0.25 events per day, which is pretty low compared with Phoenix and Pathfinder (more like 1-3 / day, depending on event threshold e.g. see http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~rlorenz/dustde...ssuredrops.pdf) but we'll need to wait and see this published properly to understand what thresholds were used and what correction factors for observation duty cycle need to be applied. |
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Nov 16 2012, 03:17 PM
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Andy, the detector has a 65 degree cone of view normal to the rover body ( upward hopefully( i'm kidding))
Here is a quote from the Nov 15 press conference that is the core of my confusion. "We see a definite pattern related to the daily thermal tides of the atmosphere," said RAD Principal Investigator Don Hassler of the Southwest Research Institute's Boulder, Colo., branch. "The atmosphere provides a level of shielding, and so charged-particle radiation is less when the atmosphere is thicker. Overall, Mars' atmosphere reduces the radiation dose compared to what we saw during the flight to Mars." Hence my original question. What is it about the atmosphere that provides the shielding ? The gas or the dust? It should be easy to answer once we get RAD data over a wider range of tau and pressure values |
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Nov 16 2012, 03:57 PM
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What is it about the atmosphere that provides the shielding ? The gas or the dust? I think you'll find that the mass of the dust is negligible from a shielding perspective. From http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/downl...p1&type=pdf if you precipitated all the dust in the middle of a severe dust storm it would only form a layer 18 microns thick. -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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rlorenz MSL Meteorology Results Nov 16 2012, 01:59 AM
Eyesonmars Can we infer anything about the diameter/size of t... Nov 16 2012, 10:49 AM
Eyesonmars In the press conference it was stated that the RAD... Nov 16 2012, 11:11 AM
AndyG At the surface 50% of the nominal cruise radiation... Nov 16 2012, 11:17 AM
Eyesonmars QUOTE (AndyG @ Nov 16 2012, 11:17 AM) At ... Nov 16 2012, 11:27 AM
AndyG Not simply, Eyesonmars - the RAD "telescope... Nov 16 2012, 01:41 PM
Drkskywxlt Also interesting that the semidiurnal tide seems t... Nov 16 2012, 12:26 PM
Eyesonmars http://marsmobile.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multime...s/?Im... Nov 16 2012, 03:46 PM
marsophile Still nothing on humidity? Nov 16 2012, 04:10 PM
Eyesonmars QUOTE (marsophile @ Nov 16 2012, 05:10 PM... Nov 16 2012, 09:59 PM
marsophile QUOTE (Eyesonmars @ Nov 16 2012, 02:59 PM... Nov 16 2012, 10:30 PM
Reed QUOTE (marsophile @ Nov 16 2012, 02:30 PM... Nov 17 2012, 02:45 AM
MahFL Re radiation. they said Mars and the thin atmosphe... Nov 17 2012, 03:25 AM
Eyesonmars It is amazing that only 18 microns of dust can com... Nov 16 2012, 04:26 PM
djellison Dust storms will do other things - not just put mo... Nov 16 2012, 09:05 PM
serpens Since the comparison is cruise to surface intensit... Nov 16 2012, 09:49 PM
Fran Ontanaya QUOTE (serpens @ Nov 16 2012, 11:49 PM) d... Nov 17 2012, 01:23 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (serpens @ Nov 16 2012, 02:49 PM) d... Nov 17 2012, 01:43 AM
serpens QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Nov 17 2012, 02:43 AM... Nov 17 2012, 05:52 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (serpens @ Nov 16 2012, 10:52 PM) V... Nov 17 2012, 06:27 AM
Zelenyikot It is interesting that it will be better as protec... Nov 17 2012, 04:46 AM![]() ![]() |
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