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MSL - SAM and CHEMIN, Discussion of the science/results from these instruments
Astro0
post Nov 21 2012, 11:46 AM
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ADMIN NOTE: Hi All, a new topic for the discussion of the science from the SAM and Chemin instruments.
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- Astro0   MSL - SAM and CHEMIN   Nov 21 2012, 11:46 AM
- - pospa   MSL Status Report 11.20.2012: "... Although C...   Nov 21 2012, 05:24 PM
- - Fran Ontanaya   Something for reference: http://proceedings.spiedi...   Nov 21 2012, 06:45 PM
- - Don1   SAM is of course capable of detecting gases evolve...   Nov 22 2012, 06:23 AM
- - nprev   Mod note: Two posts discussing rule 1.3 changes mo...   Nov 22 2012, 06:34 PM
- - RonJones   I have not seen any specific statements from the C...   Nov 22 2012, 07:35 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (RonJones @ Nov 22 2012, 12:35 PM) ...   Nov 22 2012, 07:43 PM
|- - marsophile   QUOTE (RonJones @ Nov 22 2012, 12:35 PM) ...   Nov 23 2012, 03:54 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (marsophile @ Nov 22 2012, 08:54 PM...   Nov 23 2012, 06:49 AM
|- - marsophile   QUOTE (marsophile @ Nov 22 2012, 08:54 PM...   Nov 23 2012, 07:24 PM
- - nprev   One fascinating finding would be if perchlorates a...   Nov 22 2012, 07:44 PM
- - Burmese   No data yet to work with until they present their ...   Nov 22 2012, 08:55 PM
|- - RonJones   I suspect that if any new finding by MSL would be ...   Nov 23 2012, 01:56 AM
- - nprev   Very good comment, Burmese; thank you! In gen...   Nov 22 2012, 09:11 PM
- - Astro0   ADMIN NOTE: Can I remind everyone that this thread...   Nov 23 2012, 02:30 AM
- - MrNatural   Can we discuss SAM's stereochemistry capabilit...   Nov 23 2012, 03:08 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (MrNatural @ Nov 23 2012, 08:08 AM)...   Nov 23 2012, 04:09 PM
|- - stone   QUOTE (MrNatural @ Nov 23 2012, 04:08 PM)...   Feb 4 2013, 07:53 AM
- - elakdawalla   Actually they're only free through Nov 30 -- o...   Nov 23 2012, 05:18 PM
- - Don1   SAM has a number of different modes of operation. ...   Nov 24 2012, 04:49 AM
|- - Holder of the Two Leashes   QUOTE (Don1 @ Nov 23 2012, 10:49 PM) On h...   Nov 26 2012, 07:08 PM
|- - Don1   QUOTE (Holder of the Two Leashes @ Nov 26 201...   Nov 27 2012, 05:50 AM
- - Spin0   From AGU's 2012 Fall Meeting scientific progra...   Nov 26 2012, 10:28 AM
- - elakdawalla   Provided there's wi-fi or cellular signal, I...   Nov 26 2012, 05:43 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Nov 26 2012, 09:43 A...   Nov 26 2012, 06:54 PM
- - serpens   I would suspect that the end products (and interme...   Nov 27 2012, 04:40 AM
- - mcaplinger   http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2012/pdf/2008...   Nov 27 2012, 06:21 AM
|- - serpens   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Nov 27 2012, 06:21 AM...   Nov 27 2012, 11:18 PM
- - belleraphon1   AGU Press Conference Schedule: http://fallmeeting....   Nov 27 2012, 01:01 PM
- - Lucas   Well, this is interesting... apparently all the hy...   Nov 28 2012, 04:57 PM
- - fredk   It certainly does look like bad reporting, at leas...   Nov 28 2012, 07:28 PM
- - EdTruthan   Press release on the Dec. 3rd AGU press conference...   Nov 29 2012, 08:58 PM
- - marsophile   I have video but no audio of the press conference....   Dec 3 2012, 05:43 PM
- - fredk   Details at the press release if anyone hasn't ...   Dec 3 2012, 06:04 PM
- - dvandorn   And yet the media still hear what they want to hea...   Dec 3 2012, 06:59 PM
|- - serpens   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Dec 3 2012, 07:59 PM) A...   Dec 3 2012, 10:07 PM
||- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (serpens @ Dec 3 2012, 03:07 PM) Pa...   Dec 3 2012, 11:06 PM
|- - MahFL   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Dec 3 2012, 06:59 PM) A...   Dec 3 2012, 10:58 PM
- - Hungry4info   Well, in fairness, they did say they detected simp...   Dec 3 2012, 07:02 PM
- - silylene   The chlorinated methanes are interesting. CH3Cl, ...   Dec 3 2012, 07:14 PM
- - nprev   The discontinuity seems to be: 1. "Organics...   Dec 3 2012, 11:08 PM
- - Antonb   Not only was 'organic' not precisely defin...   Dec 4 2012, 02:24 PM
|- - JRehling   If you currently do a Google News search for ...   Dec 4 2012, 03:27 PM
- - Fran Ontanaya   Can we go back to discussing the actual results. N...   Dec 4 2012, 04:40 PM
- - marsophile   For some context, we had the following results fro...   Dec 4 2012, 04:43 PM
|- - marsophile   QUOTE (marsophile @ Dec 4 2012, 09:43 AM)...   Dec 5 2012, 04:03 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (marsophile @ Dec 5 2012, 11:03 AM)...   Dec 5 2012, 04:59 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Dec 5 2012, 09:59 AM) W...   Dec 5 2012, 07:51 PM
||- - NickF   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Dec 5 2012, 01:51 PM)...   Dec 5 2012, 08:47 PM
||- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Dec 5 2012, 12:51 PM)...   Dec 5 2012, 08:59 PM
|- - stone   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Dec 5 2012, 05:59 PM) W...   Jan 31 2013, 10:47 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (stone @ Jan 31 2013, 03:47 PM) I l...   Feb 1 2013, 12:17 AM
|- - stone   ADMIN TIP: When replying to a post immediately pre...   Feb 1 2013, 06:59 AM
- - Don1   I think we're looking at a work in progress wi...   Dec 5 2012, 02:01 AM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (Don1 @ Dec 4 2012, 06:01 PM) I thi...   Dec 5 2012, 02:20 AM
|- - serpens   QUOTE (Don1 @ Dec 5 2012, 02:01 AM) The m...   Dec 5 2012, 08:32 AM
- - silylene   As I suggested in my prior post in this thread, I ...   Dec 5 2012, 07:29 PM
- - marsophile   One thing that seems puzzling is why chloromethane...   Dec 6 2012, 04:18 AM
- - Don1   Elements like potassium and sodium have several di...   Dec 6 2012, 09:10 AM
- - Gerald   For the 44th Lunar and Planetary Science Conferenc...   Feb 1 2013, 07:11 PM
|- - stone   With the Viking data showing chlorohydrocarbons an...   Feb 1 2013, 09:16 PM
- - marsophile   The cited paper allows for the possibility that th...   Feb 1 2013, 09:29 PM
|- - stone   QUOTE (marsophile @ Feb 1 2013, 10:29 PM)...   Feb 2 2013, 11:12 AM
- - Don1   Yes there is news from SAM and it ain't good. ...   Feb 2 2013, 09:28 AM
- - marsophile   Couldn't they simply use up the supply of the ...   Feb 3 2013, 01:38 AM
|- - stone   The MTBSTFA is used to search for amino acids and ...   Feb 3 2013, 07:16 AM
- - marsophile   Then it seems there is a catch-22 situation: They...   Feb 4 2013, 03:41 AM
- - Mr Valiant   I had no idea that the GC was so, so...definative....   Feb 4 2013, 11:27 AM
- - marsophile   Drilling is probably the best bet for getting a pe...   Feb 11 2013, 06:03 AM
|- - stone   If the perchlorates are ancient the vein should be...   Feb 11 2013, 07:43 AM
- - rickyjames   Could somebody please elaborate on the statement m...   Feb 15 2013, 02:41 PM
|- - stone   "Although none of them have been punctured ye...   Feb 15 2013, 05:07 PM
- - marsophile   If the SAM and CHEMIN instruments performed measur...   Mar 9 2013, 02:40 AM
|- - stone   The heating like done by SAM is not done often on ...   Mar 9 2013, 10:52 AM
- - jmknapp   Check this report of SAM tests on Earth: Mars Sci...   Mar 9 2013, 11:11 AM
|- - stone   I know what the SAM team had at AMASE in 2010 and ...   Mar 9 2013, 04:44 PM
- - Don1   Many Mars meteorites contain organics at levels th...   Mar 10 2013, 09:38 AM
|- - stone   The detection level is a very complicated topic fo...   Mar 10 2013, 10:14 AM
|- - fredk   QUOTE (Don1 @ Mar 10 2013, 09:38 AM) ther...   Mar 10 2013, 03:22 PM
|- - Don1   QUOTE (fredk @ Mar 10 2013, 07:22 AM) But...   Mar 10 2013, 08:17 PM
|- - stone   The MTBSTFA gives you a nice background and makes ...   Mar 10 2013, 09:46 PM
- - xflare   But don't we already know Mars has/had organic...   Mar 10 2013, 10:50 AM
|- - t_d   QUOTE (xflare @ Mar 10 2013, 06:50 AM) Bu...   Mar 10 2013, 01:11 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (xflare @ Mar 10 2013, 05:50 AM) Bu...   Mar 10 2013, 05:36 PM
- - Cardinal   From what I can tell, the actual press conference ...   Mar 11 2013, 08:28 PM
- - nprev   Repeat: Don't get too excited. This will be an...   Mar 11 2013, 08:43 PM
|- - xflare   QUOTE (nprev @ Mar 11 2013, 08:43 PM) Rep...   Mar 11 2013, 09:45 PM
- - belleraphon1   Agree with nprev. Analysis by CheMin and SAM of ...   Mar 11 2013, 09:24 PM
- - jmknapp   True--in terms of announcing subsystem firsts, the...   Mar 11 2013, 09:56 PM
- - Don1   Today's announcement looks like a mixture of g...   Mar 12 2013, 09:24 PM
- - marsophile   Did they specifically identify perchlorate, or is ...   Mar 12 2013, 10:15 PM
- - fredk   All I remember is a statement that they saw perchl...   Mar 12 2013, 11:12 PM
- - Don1   They see oxygen released at a temperature consiste...   Mar 13 2013, 02:10 AM
|- - t_d   Wouldn't heating the sample for twenty minutes...   Mar 13 2013, 03:20 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Yes, and they measure them all. Phil   Mar 13 2013, 03:26 AM
- - centsworth_II   Here is a transcript of SAM PI Paul Mahaffy's ...   Mar 13 2013, 04:22 AM
- - elakdawalla   I thought I heard "nanomoles," not ...   Mar 13 2013, 04:35 AM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Mar 12 2013, 11:35 P...   Mar 13 2013, 04:57 AM
- - Doug M.   A number of articles are mentioning the presence o...   Mar 13 2013, 08:55 AM
- - orbitmars   P2O5 has been detected in Gusev, Meridiani and Gal...   Mar 13 2013, 09:57 AM
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