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Feb 25 2013, 10:07 PM
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Is there is any possibility to observe comets in near future from surface of Mars and/or from Mars orbiters. Which types of instruments are possible to use?
For example (http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/horizons.cgi - position Mars 0deg Longitude, 5deg south Latitude, time UTC): 1) Comet C/2012 S1 (ISON) 2013-Oct-01 17:19UTC RA 23 07 44.73 DE +69 27 46.0 MAG 2.93 r 1.637007919902 delta 0.07246306543080 So there is relativly very close encounter in October 2013, about 11 million km from Mars.. 2) Comet C/2013 A1 (Sidding Spring) 2014-Oct-19 20:59UTC RA 10 49 50.64 DE -60 38 09.5 MAG -8.29 r 1.401218071277 delta 0.00070643344409 There is still maybe not so precise orbit BUT, there is ONLY about 105 000 km (65 000 miles) encounter from Mars. Especially the second comet, if this orbit will be OK, is very interesting target to observe. -------------------- |
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Oct 2 2013, 10:18 PM
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Fred that is correct, ISON shouldn't have a trail that follows the stars, but should move between long exposure frames and have its own movement or trail if the images were taken with very long exposure. In my opinion, Gerald's heavily processed images do make a good case that it's the comet based on aligning the stars in his image and what starry night spits out, ISON's position aligns very well with his candidate. I'm curious though exactly how he processed those. I did use Opportunity's current position. Hopefully the PDS images will be a help in solidly confirming it when they are released.
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Oct 3 2013, 12:07 AM
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MaG Comet observation from Mars Feb 25 2013, 10:07 PM
CAP-Team The sight from mars on C/2013 A1 should be spectac... Feb 27 2013, 08:44 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (MaG @ Feb 25 2013, 03:07 PM) I can... Feb 27 2013, 09:01 PM
Hungry4info Update.
"Today, at the ISON-NM observatory,... Feb 27 2013, 09:31 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Feb 27 2013, 02:31 P... Feb 27 2013, 09:38 PM
SFJCody QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Feb 28 2013, 07:31 A... Feb 28 2013, 12:59 AM
machi I'm still missing more excitement about this. ... Feb 28 2013, 02:05 AM
nprev Thing is, none of the orbiters have been designed ... Feb 28 2013, 02:56 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (nprev @ Feb 27 2013, 07:56 PM) als... Feb 28 2013, 05:33 AM
machi QUOTE Thing is, none of the orbiters have been des... Feb 28 2013, 03:22 AM
Explorer1 How long is MAVEN's commissioning phase anyway... Feb 28 2013, 05:18 AM
nprev Meh. The wonder of statistics (which are tedious t... Feb 28 2013, 05:25 AM
fredk We've made (and survived) many comet encounter... Feb 28 2013, 04:31 PM
Greenish QUOTE (fredk @ Feb 28 2013, 11:31 AM) Of ... Feb 28 2013, 07:45 PM
stevesliva QUOTE (fredk @ Feb 28 2013, 12:31 PM) but... Mar 1 2013, 12:38 AM
SFJCody http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/mpml/message/28... Mar 2 2013, 06:13 AM

SteveM QUOTE (SFJCody @ Mar 2 2013, 01:13 AM) ht... Mar 3 2013, 01:19 AM

SFJCody I just find it extraordinary that an object of 10 ... Mar 3 2013, 03:40 AM

Don1 Shoemaker-Levy 9 passed within 70,000 km of the ce... Mar 3 2013, 06:42 AM
rlorenz QUOTE (stevesliva @ Feb 28 2013, 07:38 PM... Mar 4 2013, 06:11 AM
SFJCody Belatedly realised that what I said above was pret... Mar 4 2013, 06:24 AM
JRehling To SFJCody's interesting thoughts about the un... Mar 5 2013, 09:45 PM
tasp Looking forward to those Kodak moment pictures thi... Feb 28 2013, 05:34 PM
Explorer1 And for those wondering about an impact, remember:... Feb 28 2013, 06:27 PM
fredk A brief discussion of imaging prospects with MRO i... Mar 2 2013, 06:43 PM
volcanopele Playing around with the current trajectory (from M... Mar 3 2013, 04:42 AM
Explorer1 Yes, that's a good point. First ever Oort obje... Mar 3 2013, 07:09 AM
Astro0 Just because it's pretty
Mar 4 2013, 10:22 PM
SteveM Checked the flyby on NASA's Horizons and found... Mar 5 2013, 03:17 PM
fredk The jpl database now lists the "nominal... Mar 5 2013, 06:57 PM
Phil Stooke "This thing is a planet killer." (Don1)... Mar 5 2013, 04:42 PM
Greenish Per http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/?horizons_doc#ca the M... Mar 5 2013, 08:33 PM
MaG As far as I have read, nobody else said something ... Mar 5 2013, 09:42 PM
volcanopele QUOTE (MaG @ Mar 5 2013, 02:42 PM) As far... Mar 6 2013, 08:34 AM
fredk Thanks for pointing out that documentation, Greeni... Mar 5 2013, 09:46 PM
tolis The view from Earth may offer an interesting twist... Mar 5 2013, 09:47 PM
akuo Even if the nucleus of C/ 2013 A1 doesn't hit ... Mar 6 2013, 07:22 AM
Greenish http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news179.html
Comet 20... Mar 6 2013, 12:50 PM
fredk October 2014 will be well into southern spring, ar... Mar 6 2013, 03:31 PM
DDAVIS I wonder if it would be worth having Curiosity try... Mar 12 2013, 02:52 AM
ugordan I'm not sure the video-capable Mastcam is well... Mar 12 2013, 12:55 PM
machi MAHLI is video capable and has relatively large FO... Mar 12 2013, 01:26 PM
fredk The more important thing is the overall camera sys... Mar 12 2013, 04:28 PM
Explorer1 Press release about Siding Spring:
http://science.... Mar 27 2013, 11:25 PM
xflare The nucleus has shrunk a lot. 1-3 km now? It was... Mar 28 2013, 09:17 AM
nprev Don't confuse estimates based on constraints w... Mar 28 2013, 01:27 PM
DEChengst If Mars ploughs through the coma and/or tail SAM m... Mar 28 2013, 06:27 PM
TheAnt QUOTE (DEChengst @ Mar 28 2013, 07:27 PM)... Mar 29 2013, 04:37 PM
fredk Tails/comas are extremely tenuous. I'd be ver... Mar 28 2013, 06:45 PM
Cosmic Penguin OK I need some expertise about spacecraft methane ... Apr 11 2013, 06:22 AM
Paolo I am not sure but I think that it the comet really... Apr 11 2013, 06:12 PM
Mongo New Calculations Effectively Rule Out Comet Impact... Apr 13 2013, 02:36 PM
Explorer1 Even that distance is pretty much a stone's th... Apr 16 2013, 04:48 PM
Paolo and we've never recorded such a close approach... Apr 16 2013, 05:20 PM
fredk I'll never forget the eerie sight of IRAS–Arak... Apr 16 2013, 06:02 PM
Explorer1 Yes, many folks confuse comets and meteor speeds, ... Apr 16 2013, 06:36 PM
Pertinax I was tinkering in the iPad app Luminos with C/201... Apr 26 2013, 05:13 PM
Phil Stooke Interesting presentation just posted - it will act... Jul 19 2013, 12:36 AM
SteveM Powerpoint version (with color) here. Jul 19 2013, 03:46 PM
fredk Update (with further links) on the Mars observatio... Sep 24 2013, 05:02 PM
monitorlizard The 20 September 2013 issue of Science (page 1328)... Sep 27 2013, 11:37 AM
Greenish Indeed, that's not consistent with the latest ... Sep 27 2013, 03:44 PM
JohnVV For those interested
i posted a "preview... Sep 27 2013, 08:56 PM
scalbers I get a magnitude for ISON of about +4.1 seen from... Sep 28 2013, 03:41 PM
jamescanvin Looks like Opportunity had a go at taking a navcam... Sep 29 2013, 12:13 PM
Deimos I get magnitude 5.5 from Mars, based on >13 fro... Sep 29 2013, 06:15 PM
Astro0 Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity - Sol 3441
It... Sep 30 2013, 07:54 AM
Gerald This may or may not show ISON:
Subframes have b... Sep 30 2013, 01:36 PM
fredk I'm sceptical that we're seeing anything. ... Sep 30 2013, 03:11 PM
Gerald FredK's image after enhancing the center of th... Sep 30 2013, 06:19 PM
brellis Another probably silly question: can one of the or... Sep 30 2013, 06:58 PM
fredk Closest approach for ISON shouldn't matter too... Sep 30 2013, 07:32 PM
xflare what time is closest approach to Mars? Sep 30 2013, 07:11 PM
JohnVV QUOTE what time is closest approach to Mars?
what ... Oct 1 2013, 08:26 PM
Explorer1 HiRISE twitter claims that images will be down in ... Oct 2 2013, 02:25 AM
James Sorenson M100 images from Sol-408. This image, according to... Oct 2 2013, 03:26 AM
dilo This early morning, looking to "just released... Oct 2 2013, 04:20 AM
fredk Yeah, it looks like the comet is faint. Here... Oct 2 2013, 04:38 AM
xflare I think this is something that will require the or... Oct 2 2013, 06:04 AM
Greenish Of the pre-dawn Sol 408 images that have come down... Oct 2 2013, 02:19 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Greenish @ Oct 2 2013, 07:19 AM) I... Oct 2 2013, 03:06 PM
Greenish mcaplinger, thank you for the explanation .... I w... Oct 2 2013, 04:28 PM
fredk There's also this C frame:
http://mars.jpl.nas... Oct 2 2013, 02:57 PM
fredk Incidentally, you can see that the fields in the s... Oct 2 2013, 03:34 PM
Explorer1 MRO got it:
http://www.uahirise.org/releases/ison... Oct 2 2013, 04:27 PM
fredk Here's a stack of the four hirise frames, with... Oct 2 2013, 05:30 PM
James Sorenson Here is the Starry Night Star map overlayed ontop ... Oct 2 2013, 06:44 PM
fredk Thanks a lot for rendering that, James. I don... Oct 2 2013, 08:35 PM
Deimos There are two Hipparcos stars partially overlappin... Oct 2 2013, 08:58 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (James Sorenson @ Oct 2 2013, 03:18... Oct 2 2013, 10:35 PM
fredk QUOTE (James Sorenson @ Oct 2 2013, 11:18... Oct 2 2013, 11:14 PM
Gerald QUOTE (James Sorenson @ Oct 3 2013, 12:18... Oct 4 2013, 03:32 PM
djellison QUOTE (Gerald @ Oct 4 2013, 07:32 AM) Tha... Oct 4 2013, 04:44 PM
Gerald No doubt, they'll do it (with the calibrated i... Oct 4 2013, 05:10 PM
fredk Pancam L1 from 3443 - presumably the ISON field ag... Oct 6 2013, 05:39 PM
James Sorenson I have to now agree with everyone that what I was ... Oct 7 2013, 03:16 AM
fredk Some modelling of the particle flux at Mars during... Dec 6 2013, 07:02 PM
Greenish NEOWISE image of C/2013 A1 (and apparently Hubble ... Jan 28 2014, 08:56 PM![]() ![]() |
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