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I didn't realize they could trigger from REMS. Very cool. It is hard to say how large it is. All we have to go on is that the entire visible slope of the central mound darkens in frame 2, including the little peak way off to the left. But the visible local horizon doesn't darken noticably. So the dust must be beyond the local horizon, which, given the extent of the darkening, suggests it is very large. Presumably from the timing and some estimate of wind speed we could get an estimate of the size.
Ed - I can't see any way this could be exposure variations. Between the first two frames, eg, the central mound darkens while the foreground stays about the same brightness. Exposure variations would brighten/darken everything uniformly, or maybe in some nonlinear way accounting for lut's and stretching. But whatever the details, all pixels with some particular pixel value must be mapped to the same pixel value after the exposure change (if the scene remains the same, of course). You shouldn't see some parts of the frame with some shade of grey mapped to different shades of grey than other parts with the same original shade of grey. I'd add one more change to Ed's list. For the first two frames, the sky is brighter than in the other frames. This is all consistent with a gust passing over. The extra dust in the gust would brighten the sky as it passes over, while shading the ground. |
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fredk MSL - Astronomical Observations Jun 29 2013, 05:25 PM
Zelenyikot Phobos in martian sky
http://www.youtube.com/watch... Jun 29 2013, 05:37 PM
iMPREPREX QUOTE (Zelenyikot @ Jun 29 2013, 12:37 PM... Jun 29 2013, 07:05 PM
Greenish QUOTE (iMPREPREX @ Jun 29 2013, 03:05 PM)... Jul 1 2013, 05:36 PM
Zelenyikot QUOTE (fredk @ Jun 29 2013, 06:25 PM) Wha... Jun 29 2013, 07:41 PM
djellison That's a cosmic ray hit. Jun 29 2013, 11:59 PM
Gerald Sol 351 Mastcam Right thumbnail time-lapse (magnif... Aug 3 2013, 12:09 AM
Zelenyikot QUOTE (Gerald @ Aug 3 2013, 01:09 AM) Dei... Aug 3 2013, 12:22 AM
Gerald Thank you very much, Zelenyikot!
The enhanced ... Aug 3 2013, 01:04 AM
iMPREPREX Wow! A few full resolution images of Deimos an... Aug 3 2013, 10:34 AM
wildespace I think I'm seeing the large Stickney crater, ... Aug 3 2013, 11:23 AM
iMPREPREX That most certainly, to me, looks like the Stickne... Aug 3 2013, 11:32 AM
wildespace Here's a Stellarium screenshot, set for the pl... Aug 3 2013, 12:23 PM
Phil Stooke Sorry folks, I think you have your Phobos geograph... Aug 3 2013, 12:59 PM
iMPREPREX I trust and believe your words, Phil. But to me it... Aug 3 2013, 01:09 PM
Phil Stooke Here's a comparison - the map image is from he... Aug 3 2013, 03:40 PM
Zelenyikot I used Celestia and made these images. Aug 3 2013, 03:48 PM
iMPREPREX That's an incredible eye you have, Phil. Thank... Aug 3 2013, 03:51 PM
Zelenyikot QUOTE (iMPREPREX @ Aug 3 2013, 04:51 PM) ... Aug 3 2013, 03:57 PM
elakdawalla Remember that Phobos is synchronously rotating, ju... Aug 3 2013, 04:16 PM
ugordan There's also what appears to be faint "ma... Aug 3 2013, 05:08 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (ugordan @ Aug 3 2013, 10:08 AM) Do... Aug 3 2013, 05:17 PM
wildespace Zelenyikot's images of Phobos gave me an idea ... Aug 5 2013, 09:05 AM
Phil Stooke I'm sorry to say they are artifacts. There ar... Aug 5 2013, 11:49 AM
Phil Stooke This is a super-resolution composite of five frame... Aug 6 2013, 01:44 PM
fredk Nice!
And a quick animation of the frames so ... Aug 6 2013, 01:52 PM
ugordan A few frames registered on Deimos and a few frames... Aug 6 2013, 04:10 PM
atomoid QUOTE (fredk @ Aug 6 2013, 05:52 AM) ..An... Aug 6 2013, 09:21 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (atomoid @ Aug 6 2013, 02:21 PM) ve... Aug 7 2013, 12:46 AM
atomoid QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Aug 6 2013, 04:46 PM)... Aug 8 2013, 12:30 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (atomoid @ Aug 7 2013, 05:30 PM) Bu... Aug 8 2013, 12:47 AM
jmknapp The moons are so tiny, I've wondered if they... Aug 7 2013, 12:10 AM
paraisosdelsistemasolar It seems Curiosity taken some pics with different ... Aug 7 2013, 05:25 PM
fredk Regulus looks good. To bring out the fainter star... Aug 7 2013, 06:28 PM
fredk Update to the Leo pics with one new ML frame. Now... Aug 7 2013, 07:05 PM
paraisosdelsistemasolar With the MastCam Left frames and with the advice o... Aug 7 2013, 07:05 PM
fredk Here's a much improved attempt at extracting s... Aug 7 2013, 11:23 PM
iMPREPREX We're getting there with the moon shots! Aug 8 2013, 01:38 AM
atomoid It looks like we might eventually get the full swe... Aug 8 2013, 02:34 AM
Deimos Deimos and Phobos both orbit in the same direction... Aug 8 2013, 04:29 AM
fredk Adding to Deimos's comments, both those MR fra... Aug 8 2013, 04:44 AM
Zelenyikot Stellarium show it is Regulus. Sol 351 Aug 8 2013, 11:42 PM
atomoid So many hot pixels, some even masquerading as star... Aug 9 2013, 01:36 AM
Deimos The hot pixels that streak in the wrong direction ... Aug 9 2013, 02:05 AM
Gerald The 17 Sol 351 Mastcam Right Phobos images availab... Aug 10 2013, 10:37 AM
iMPREPREX Very nice. You've inspired me to take a crack ... Aug 10 2013, 11:23 AM
Gerald QUOTE (iMPREPREX @ Aug 10 2013, 01:23 PM)... Aug 10 2013, 07:45 PM
Zelenyikot Phobos and Deimos dance
http://www.youtube.com... Aug 11 2013, 07:06 PM
Gerald Sol 363 Phobos transit with available 96x96 thumbn... Aug 15 2013, 06:00 PM
Gerald The Sol 351 Phobos/Deimos sequence is almost compl... Aug 16 2013, 03:02 AM
Phil Stooke Revisiting the Phobos images:
http://mars.jpl.nas... Aug 16 2013, 03:18 PM
wildespace Interesting, the image shows that Phobos is approx... Aug 16 2013, 05:28 PM
djellison QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Aug 16 2013, 08:18 A... Aug 16 2013, 10:26 PM
stevesliva QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Aug 16 2013, 11:18 A... Aug 17 2013, 05:28 AM
fredk Phobos orbits so low that its angular size varies ... Aug 16 2013, 06:11 PM
Deimos I wonder how this happened?
http://mars.jpl.nasa.... Aug 16 2013, 09:08 PM
Gerald The first reasonably resolved Sol 363 Phobos trans... Aug 20 2013, 08:30 AM
fredk We caught what appears to be a serious wind gust o... Aug 20 2013, 03:24 PM
PaulH51 QUOTE (fredk @ Aug 20 2013, 11:24 PM) We ... Aug 21 2013, 12:18 AM
fredk Full resolution view of the big gust, cropped and ... Aug 20 2013, 03:44 PM
Gerald QUOTE (fredk @ Aug 20 2013, 05:44 PM) Ful... Aug 20 2013, 08:20 PM
Gerald QUOTE (fredk @ Aug 20 2013, 10:42 PM) All... Aug 20 2013, 10:57 PM
dvandorn Must it have been a dust cloud? The air at Gale h... Aug 20 2013, 11:37 PM
Deimos REMS cannot currently be used to trigger imaging. ... Aug 21 2013, 12:17 AM
dvandorn Are you saying that we could have been seeing the ... Aug 21 2013, 12:25 AM
jmknapp QUOTE (dvandorn @ Aug 20 2013, 08:25 PM) ... Aug 21 2013, 01:37 AM
Gerald First, for a better illustration of the filtering ... Aug 21 2013, 12:25 AM
elakdawalla No, dude, check it out: there was an eclipse, a go... Aug 21 2013, 12:41 AM
fredk Yeah, this image was simultaneous with the RLB seq... Aug 21 2013, 12:49 AM
vikingmars QUOTE (fredk @ Aug 21 2013, 02:49 AM) Yea... Aug 21 2013, 06:27 AM
Explorer1 Chalk up another amazing one for the team; feels l... Aug 21 2013, 12:56 AM
EdTruthan The eclipse thumbnails appear to indicate a maximu... Aug 21 2013, 02:34 AM
atomoid scroll down to get an idea about the size of Phobo... Aug 21 2013, 03:02 AM
Deimos MER never imaged the ground while imaging a transi... Aug 21 2013, 03:09 AM
fredk QUOTE (Deimos @ Aug 21 2013, 03:09 AM) ME... Aug 21 2013, 04:34 AM
Gerald "How wide would the shadow be?"
There i... Aug 21 2013, 03:19 AM
Gerald In the meanwhile, six of the Sol 363 MR eclipse im... Aug 21 2013, 10:40 AM
fredk QUOTE (Gerald @ Aug 21 2013, 10:40 AM) We... Aug 21 2013, 03:05 PM
Gerald Bullseye! Aug 21 2013, 04:36 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Gerald @ Aug 21 2013, 09:36 AM) Bu... Aug 22 2013, 12:38 AM
fredk Here's what I dreamed of doing 7 years ago - I... Aug 21 2013, 10:25 PM
elakdawalla Point a camera with a 5-degree FOV at a moving spe... Aug 22 2013, 02:03 AM
PaulH51 QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Aug 22 2013, 10:03 A... Aug 22 2013, 02:28 AM
DeanM Quoting Emily: "Point a camera with a 5-degre... Aug 22 2013, 09:04 AM
Deimos QUOTE (DeanM @ Aug 22 2013, 09:04 AM) Ind... Aug 22 2013, 02:16 PM
fredk QUOTE (Deimos @ Aug 22 2013, 02:16 PM) MS... Aug 22 2013, 02:50 PM
john_s QUOTE (fredk @ Aug 22 2013, 07:50 AM) Why... Aug 22 2013, 03:26 PM

mcaplinger QUOTE (john_s @ Aug 22 2013, 08:26 AM) I ... Aug 22 2013, 03:37 PM
Gerald QUOTE (fredk @ Aug 22 2013, 04:50 PM) Why... Aug 22 2013, 03:55 PM
fredk QUOTE (Gerald @ Aug 22 2013, 03:55 PM) go... Aug 22 2013, 05:01 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (fredk @ Aug 22 2013, 10:01 AM) The... Aug 22 2013, 05:20 PM
Gerald A gyro could do the job. Aug 22 2013, 09:47 AM
Deimos I don't know if any flight Mastcam/Navcam test... Aug 22 2013, 05:49 PM
Gerald Begin and end of the Sol 369 eclipse:
(magnified... Aug 23 2013, 05:57 PM
Deimos Personally, I'd love to have the cool images d... Aug 23 2013, 07:49 PM
Gerald Phobos silhouette inferred from 3 Sol 369 MR image... Aug 29 2013, 10:46 AM
Airbag What did you do to that image??? The original was ... Aug 29 2013, 11:07 AM
Gerald Squeezing out details which are not visible in a s... Aug 29 2013, 11:40 AM
Phil Stooke This is my version of combining the three transit ... Aug 29 2013, 12:56 PM![]() ![]() |
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