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Pando
post Mar 17 2005, 07:25 AM
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Enjoy that one... tongue.gif biggrin.gif

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(Doug, please move this outta here if it doesn't belong, don't know where else to put it...)
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post Aug 19 2005, 05:25 PM
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If someone can accept the idea of a huge conspiracy regarding the moon landing and subsequent return, then I'd be amazed if they can then accept the idea of an even huger conspiracy involving people analyzing the rocks brought back and the laser interoferometers placed on the Moon's surface, and at some point the conspiracy becomes everyone except you, and in that case, wow, you really are screwed, and who wants to be that screwed? That is extra, extra, extra, extra-screwed.
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post Aug 19 2005, 05:49 PM
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I'm not amazed at all. People have a remarkable ability to ignore or explain away facts if those facts don't fit what they've decided is the truth. The anti-intellectual mantle helps one to do that -- you simply say to yourself: "Well, these scientists were obviously in on the scam, and since I have absolutely no clue as to how they got these results from these supposed moon rocks, I can comfortably assume that the scientists are just using their scientific double-talk to try and fool me. Well, they can't fool me! I know better! It was all a scam! Hah! See? I'm smarter than they think! How dare they try and fool me with their made-up scientific double-talk, anyway!"

You see how the thing progresses? It comes from a deep-seated sense of inferiority over living in a world that's too complicated for them to understand, and a hatred of anyone who claims to understand things they don't... It's that fear and hatred that the politicians are currently using to their own advantage.

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post Aug 19 2005, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE (dvandorn @ Aug 19 2005, 05:49 PM)
It's that fear and hatred that the politicians are currently using to their own advantage.

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post Aug 19 2005, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Aug 19 2005, 06:04 PM)
You're just itching to turn this board political aren't you?
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I was just expressing agreement with similar statements earlier in the thread (not by me). And quite frankly, you can take the "current" out of my statement -- all politicians, to one degree or another, appeal to peoples' fears and hatreds to gain their support.

Sorry, did not mean to offend... sad.gif

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- Pando   Did We Go To Moon   Mar 17 2005, 07:25 AM
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|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (djellison @ Aug 19 2005, 01:17 PM)As J...   Aug 19 2005, 02:00 PM
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|- - dvandorn   I'm not amazed at all. People have a remarkab...   Aug 19 2005, 05:49 PM
|- - paxdan   only appropriate response to the madness: Have you...   Aug 19 2005, 07:08 PM
|- - mike   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Aug 19 2005, 09:49 AM)You s...   Aug 19 2005, 07:43 PM
||- - Richard Trigaux   QUOTE (dvandorn)You see how the thing progresses? ...   Aug 20 2005, 06:44 AM
||- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Aug 20 2005, 07:44 A...   Aug 20 2005, 10:35 AM
||- - DDAVIS   [quote=Richard Trigaux,Aug 20 2005, 06:44 AM] Inte...   Aug 22 2005, 05:06 AM
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|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Aug 19 2005, 06:04 PM)Yo...   Aug 19 2005, 11:21 PM
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