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Aug 6 2014, 09:29 AM
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Cheers at the European Space Operations Centre.
Well done! Rosetta has arrived Time for science!!!!!!! |
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Aug 8 2014, 10:17 PM
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Rotation rate is 12.7 hours. The circumference drawn by the 4km length of the comet ( a 2km radius ) is 12.6 km
So very roughly - it's doing 1km/hr or 0.28m/sec. V^2/r is thus 0.000039 m/sec^2 Surface gravity is approximated as 10^-3 m/sec^2 3 orders of magnitude higher than the centripetal acceleration due to rotation. Thus no - they would not fly apart. They would collapse together. |
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Aug 8 2014, 11:36 PM
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Rotation rate is 12.7 hours. The circumference drawn by the 4km length of the comet ( a 2km radius ) is 12.6 km So very roughly - it's doing 1km/hr or 0.28m/sec. V^2/r is thus 0.000039 m/sec^2 Surface gravity is approximated as 10^-3 m/sec^2 3 orders of magnitude higher than the centripetal acceleration due to rotation. Hmm, according to the Wikipedia version, the escape velocity is estimated to 0.46 m/s, corresponding to about 0.33 m/s for a circular orbit. So I'd say within the current uncertainty, respecting the rotation, the resulting surface gravity at the parts most distant to the center of mass is about zero. A significantly more compact body with the same angular momentum would be torn apart. This opens a scenario almost opposing the contact binary approach, meaning head and body could have been broken apart already by centrifugal pseudo-force, and kept together by the stretched "neck", which would give the "rubber" duck metaphor more sense than originally anticipated. This way the inner of the comet would be exposed at the neck. Additional momentum could have been provided by impacts or by YORP. |
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Astro0 Rosetta - Early Orbital Operations at Comet 67P C-G Aug 6 2014, 09:29 AM
Gerald "We're at the comet!"
Aug 6 2014, 09:46 AM
Astro0 Hello Comet!
Aug 6 2014, 09:52 AM
kenny They are saying Rosetta is now in a heliocentric o... Aug 6 2014, 09:59 AM
mcgyver QUOTE (kenny @ Aug 6 2014, 10:59 AM) Look... Aug 6 2014, 10:18 AM
mcgyver Is the rotation period known?
Or where can I find ... Aug 6 2014, 10:20 AM
anticitizen2 I was putting together a final approach animation ... Aug 6 2014, 10:30 AM
belleraphon1 What a bizzare shape! Awesome!
Well done ... Aug 6 2014, 10:48 AM
elakdawalla (Click to enlarge.)
Need to clean up the artifact... Aug 6 2014, 11:31 AM
elakdawalla Possible landing sites marked as green spots on il... Aug 6 2014, 11:33 AM
Explorer1 New OSIRIS stuff in a few hours, according to the ... Aug 6 2014, 11:43 AM
nprev What a moment in history.
And big shout-out to As... Aug 6 2014, 12:04 PM
Astro0 What an amazing place!
Screen grab:
Aug 6 2014, 12:33 PM
Astro0 More images:
Aug 6 2014, 12:40 PM
0101Morpheus Indeed
There is an incredible amount variable ter... Aug 6 2014, 12:48 PM
Jaro_in_Montreal QUOTE (0101Morpheus @ Aug 6 2014, 01:48 P... Aug 6 2014, 01:07 PM
john_s Wow. And spooky! This was designed by Tim Bu... Aug 6 2014, 01:11 PM
centsworth_II In the press briefing it was noted that the blue r... Aug 6 2014, 12:56 PM
DFinfrock QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Aug 6 2014, 01:56 ... Aug 6 2014, 03:38 PM
bobik QUOTE (DFinfrock @ Aug 6 2014, 04:38 PM) ... Aug 6 2014, 05:08 PM
Explorer1 QUOTE (bobik @ Aug 6 2014, 09:08 AM) The ... Aug 6 2014, 05:30 PM
charborob QUOTE (Explorer1 @ Aug 6 2014, 12:30 PM) ... Aug 6 2014, 05:43 PM
bobik QUOTE (Explorer1 @ Aug 6 2014, 06:30 PM) ... Aug 7 2014, 05:58 AM
Explorer1 QUOTE (bobik @ Aug 6 2014, 09:58 PM) ÇIVA... Aug 7 2014, 06:55 AM
Gerald Overview image of the imges posted by Astro0,
and... Aug 6 2014, 12:57 PM
tolis QUOTE (Gerald @ Aug 6 2014, 12:57 PM) Ove... Aug 6 2014, 01:32 PM
mcgyver How to figure out scale in these wonderful images? Aug 6 2014, 01:03 PM
centsworth_II QUOTE (mcgyver @ Aug 6 2014, 09:03 AM) Ho... Aug 6 2014, 01:16 PM
The Singing Badger QUOTE (mcgyver @ Aug 6 2014, 02:03 PM) Ho... Aug 6 2014, 04:53 PM

ollopa I can't agree with the BBC graphic. The base ... Aug 6 2014, 06:05 PM
mmatessa QUOTE (mcgyver @ Aug 6 2014, 05:03 AM) Ho... Aug 7 2014, 08:13 PM
anticitizen2 QUOTE (walfy @ Jul 31 2014, 06:16 PM) A q... Aug 6 2014, 01:09 PM
Phil Stooke No, it's the opposite of Hartley 2.
Phil Aug 6 2014, 01:51 PM
centsworth_II Maybe the neck jets represent the sublimation of s... Aug 6 2014, 02:07 PM
marsbug QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Aug 6 2014, 03:07 ... Aug 6 2014, 07:33 PM
Gerald Here is a magnified "low"-resolution ver... Aug 6 2014, 02:33 PM
machi Stereo image of the 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko. One... Aug 6 2014, 04:07 PM
machi And here is cross-eye version of the same stereo i... Aug 6 2014, 04:08 PM
Adam Hurcewicz QUOTE (machi @ Aug 6 2014, 06:08 PM) And ... Aug 6 2014, 06:14 PM
Mercure QUOTE (machi @ Aug 6 2014, 06:08 PM) And ... Aug 6 2014, 09:12 PM
mcgyver QUOTE (machi @ Aug 6 2014, 05:08 PM) And ... Aug 9 2014, 10:26 AM
akuo Wonderful achievement to be here after so many yea... Aug 6 2014, 04:37 PM
testguru I have not seen much discussion on the probability... Aug 6 2014, 06:15 PM
machi QUOTE (jasedm @ Aug 5 2014, 08:46 PM) Bri... Aug 6 2014, 07:21 PM
algorithm Is it just me?!! Aug 6 2014, 08:10 PM
Phil Stooke Well... yes, I think it probably is!
Phil Aug 6 2014, 08:54 PM
machi I see something completely different Aug 6 2014, 09:01 PM
algorithm QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Aug 6 2014, 09:54 PM... Aug 6 2014, 09:12 PM
algorithm QUOTE (machi @ Aug 6 2014, 10:01 PM) I se... Aug 6 2014, 09:44 PM
Phil Stooke OK, how can I stay out of this? I see something m... Aug 6 2014, 10:40 PM
Astro0 NOTE TO SELF:
Post one more pareidolia image and ... Aug 7 2014, 12:41 AM
lunaitesrock QUOTE (acastillo @ Aug 6 2014, 09:44 AM) ... Aug 7 2014, 01:24 AM
lunaitesrock The 3D image is absolutely incredible! I hope... Aug 7 2014, 01:31 AM
djellison QUOTE (lunaitesrock @ Aug 6 2014, 06:31 P... Aug 7 2014, 05:09 AM
MichaelJWP QUOTE (djellison @ Aug 7 2014, 06:09 AM) ... Aug 7 2014, 06:42 AM
jgoldader QUOTE (djellison @ Aug 7 2014, 12:09 AM) ... Aug 7 2014, 01:24 PM
Decepticon What a strange object.
Reminds me of a broken Was... Aug 7 2014, 02:42 AM
Phil Stooke "On the other hand, 103P/Hartley and 19/P Bor... Aug 7 2014, 05:30 AM
machi Descent imaging by ROLIS is limited by onboard mem... Aug 7 2014, 10:15 AM
lunaitesrock New images are up:
http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/20... Aug 7 2014, 02:57 PM
TheAnt The closeup is what got my attention. Aug 7 2014, 04:13 PM
machi BBC released very interesting footage from (eviden... Aug 7 2014, 08:15 PM
fredk QUOTE (machi @ Aug 7 2014, 08:15 PM) BBC ... Aug 7 2014, 10:36 PM
atomoid heres a <sloppy> crosseye of the topography ... Aug 7 2014, 09:08 PM
algorithm What is the estimated mass of this object?
What is... Aug 7 2014, 09:20 PM
Phil Stooke It's more about local geology and safety. How... Aug 7 2014, 09:33 PM
centsworth_II My estimate of how football stadiums at two locati... Aug 7 2014, 10:16 PM
machi Yes, I should.
I saw that article but I have disa... Aug 7 2014, 11:18 PM
anticitizen2 I had to grab larger frames from the video and slo... Aug 8 2014, 12:02 AM
djellison QUOTE (MichaelJWP @ Aug 6 2014, 10:42 PM)... Aug 8 2014, 12:27 AM
Dyche Mullins A few more useful size comparisons.
Aug 8 2014, 12:41 AM
MichaelJWP QUOTE (Dyche Mullins @ Aug 8 2014, 01:41 ... Aug 8 2014, 06:42 AM
bobik QUOTE (Dyche Mullins @ Aug 8 2014, 01:41 ... Aug 8 2014, 08:54 AM
machi QUOTE (anticitizen2 @ Aug 8 2014, 02:02 A... Aug 8 2014, 01:00 AM
machi And here is comparison between stereo images with ... Aug 8 2014, 01:13 AM
mcgyver QUOTE (machi @ Aug 8 2014, 02:13 AM) And ... Aug 9 2014, 03:10 PM
anticitizen2 And thank you for the 3D images! Those have tr... Aug 8 2014, 02:18 AM
lunaitesrock The processed photos released to date all have goo... Aug 8 2014, 03:16 AM
centsworth_II QUOTE (lunaitesrock @ Aug 7 2014, 10:16 P... Aug 8 2014, 10:23 AM
nprev INCREDIBLE, Daniel--thank you!!!!
... Aug 8 2014, 05:39 AM
lunaitesrock QUOTE (nprev @ Aug 8 2014, 12:39 AM) In m... Aug 8 2014, 08:45 AM
tolis The smaller lobe (the one with the ``hole... Aug 8 2014, 06:27 AM
0101Morpheus It's for the best, I tend to think that our mi... Aug 8 2014, 11:58 AM
Nebulium Hello
First, think to Adelson's chessboard :... Aug 8 2014, 01:47 PM
lunaitesrock This photo from the end of the large lobe is parti... Aug 9 2014, 03:25 AM
MarsInMyLifetime QUOTE (lunaitesrock @ Aug 8 2014, 10:25 P... Aug 9 2014, 04:42 AM
scalbers QUOTE (MarsInMyLifetime @ Aug 9 2014, 04... Aug 9 2014, 07:53 PM
fredk QUOTE (MarsInMyLifetime @ Aug 9 2014, 05... Aug 9 2014, 11:13 PM
machi I found multiple articles where authors use known ... Aug 9 2014, 10:14 AM
machi It's image which is combination of two images.... Aug 9 2014, 04:25 PM
Phil Stooke Those pics were of Hartley, not Borrelly.
Phil Aug 9 2014, 08:03 PM
lunaitesrock Closer and closer. 81 km now.
http://blogs.esa.i... Aug 9 2014, 09:25 PM
brellis Is the lander still asleep? If so, will it be pow... Aug 9 2014, 10:17 PM
bobik QUOTE (brellis @ Aug 9 2014, 11:17 PM) Is... Aug 10 2014, 07:48 AM
machi Lander is awake from February or March. All instru... Aug 9 2014, 10:24 PM
Explorer1 From August to October 2014: QUOTE Philae Science ... Aug 10 2014, 08:12 AM
climber From rosetta.jpl.nasa.gov... Couldn't copy pas... Aug 10 2014, 10:36 AM
Nebulium Hello
From :
http://rosetta.jpl.nasa.gov/news/c... Aug 10 2014, 11:26 AM![]() ![]() |
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