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Jan 8 2016, 10:15 PM
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There is now PDS-format JunoCam cruise and Earth flyby data available; it's been submitted to the PDS, but MSSS has gone ahead and posted it on their website. I've created an index page to it here. Unlike my usual index pages, there aren't any thumbnails because of the odd nature of JunoCam images, with their long skinny shapes and interleaved framelets. I haven't played much with these data because it's a bit beyond my skill -- I look forward to seeing what any of you can do with it.
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Sep 5 2017, 09:29 PM
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The new frame and instrument kernels (plus information/comments they contain) mentioned in the previous post have eliminated most of the systematic errors I have been getting, meaning that the corrections I need to make to the camera pointing are now much smaller. What I'm doing is comparable to what ISIS3's deltack does. However, small errors apparently remain. Because of this there is one issue I hope Mike can clarify (I suspect Gerald also knows something about this).
juno_junocam_v02.ti has lines like this: INS-6150#_DISTORTION_X = 814.21 The width of the images is 1648 pixels. Does the above line mean that the optical axis passes through x=814.21 in the images and not width/2 (=824) as in other spacecraft cameras (e.g. Cassini, Voyager, Galileo and Dawn) I'm familiar with? |
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Sep 5 2017, 10:58 PM
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Does the above line mean that the optical axis passes through x=814.21 in the images and not width/2 (=824) as in other spacecraft cameras (e.g. Cassini, Voyager, Galileo and Dawn) I'm familiar with? Yes. At least that's what we are suggesting you use in the camera model. No camera really has the optic axis going directly through width/2 -- if it says it does, that most likely only means that other parts of the camera model have been adjusted to compensate for that assumption (camera model parameters don't have to be physically accurate as long as the residual errors are low.) For this most recent kernel update, we (a summer intern and I) measured thousands of cruise star image locations and then used Nelder-Mead nonlinear optimization to minimize camera model error while varying seven model parameters: image optical center (cx, cy), the first two terms in the radial distortion function (k1, k2), camera focal length (fl), and camera boresight angular misalignment in X and Y (xr, yr). The residual error is still about 1 pixel cross-spin and ~2.5 pixels down-spin (1 sigma); the latter higher because of remaining timing slop. -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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Sep 25 2017, 05:24 AM
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For this most recent kernel update, we (a summer intern and I) measured thousands of cruise star image locations and then used Nelder-Mead nonlinear optimization to minimize camera model error while varying seven model parameters: image optical center (cx, cy), the first two terms in the radial distortion function (k1, k2), camera focal length (fl), and camera boresight angular misalignment in X and Y (xr, yr). The residual error is still about 1 pixel cross-spin and ~2.5 pixels down-spin (1 sigma); the latter higher because of remaining timing slop. Hi Mike, I’ve also been looking at PDS cruise phase full-rotation color images for camera geometry calibration. I noticed what appear to be changes in compression artifacts between datatakes without an indication of a change in the .LBL file. For example, between JNCE_2016026_00C00063_V01 and JNCE_2016026_00C00064_V01. Could you comment on that? I also wonder if there are opportunities for non-standard imaging around apojove (or any time Jupiter is fairly small in the FOV). If so, some imagery I think could be useful are: 1. Command JunoCam to disable TDI and capture a full rotation of color frames with EXPOSURE_DURATION around 464ms to 816ms. The goal being to capture bright stars or moons as slightly curved trails passing over filter boundaries, which could then be used to help characterize chromatic aberration and geometry. Ideally, collect several of these at different altitudes to capture trails from the moons in different sets of CCD columns. 2. Collect a sequence of low compression color frames spanning more than one full rotation. The goal being to allow wrap around linkage for FOV measurement to be performed with more stars (and away from the first frame which seems to have a higher noise level). Ideally, collect a series of these, each starting at a different random rotation angle. Thanks, Brian Swift |
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Sep 25 2017, 04:14 PM
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I noticed what appear to be changes in compression artifacts between datatakes without an indication of a change in the .LBL file. For example, between JNCE_2016026_00C00063_V01 and JNCE_2016026_00C00064_V01. Could you comment on that? A visual example of what you are reacting to would be helpful. Without looking at these specific images, we've observed an effect where as the sensor warms up during operation, the dark level in the images interacts with the companding table in such a way as to (paradoxically) make the images less noisy, which changes the behavior of the lossy compressor. Unfortunately, the PDS archive product wasn't defined with a field to record what the actual compression factor was (that is, we don't record how big the original downlink file was), which would give some indication of what level of compression artifact to expect. QUOTE I also wonder if there are opportunities for non-standard imaging around apojove At the moment Junocam is turned off except near perijove, and the time near perijove is fully subscribed with images of the planet. With regard to calibration, my philosophy is to try to extract all the information possible from images that we already have before taking new images. There were a few instances in cruise where the TDI was commanded assuming the spacecraft was spinning at 1 RPM and it was really spinning at 2 RPM, and these images have the kinds of streaks you're describing. We just ignored them when we were doing our calibration, but maybe they have some utility. There are many, many images taken all the way around the orbit on orbit 1 of the moons with no TDI, and that's a good source of geometric information that we are in the early stages of looking at. Taking long exposures without TDI is outside the parameters that the instrument was designed to work within. It might be possible to command this, but obviously you can't take contiguous frames around a spin so you'd be taking images of somewhat random star fields. -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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Sep 26 2017, 05:09 PM
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A visual example of what you are reacting to would be helpful. As an example, the below images are the third frames from JNCE_2016026_00C00063_V01.IMG and JNCE_2016026_00C00064_V01.IMG which have START_TIMEs 2016-01-26T08:56:02.168 and 2016-01-26T09:01:02.082. The images were decompanded and DN 0 to 8 were stretched full display range. QUOTE Unfortunately, the PDS archive product wasn't defined with a field to record what the actual compression factor was Besides compression factor, are there other instrument configuration parameters that effect imaging characteristics which are not recorded in the metadata? QUOTE At the moment Junocam is turned off except near perijove, and the time near perijove is fully subscribed with images of the planet. OK. If I decide to request some special imaging I’ll run it though the perijove voting process, with the imaging to occur during or at the end of the departure movie collection. QUOTE There are many, many images taken all the way around the orbit on orbit 1 of the moons with no TDI... Great, I’ll go look for them on PDS. I’d assumed all the non-cruise imagery was on the missionjuno web site. One more question: is the imagery collected for the Junocam Calibration Report available online anywhere? Thanks again. |
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Sep 27 2017, 01:05 AM
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As an example, the below images are the third frames from JNCE_2016026_00C00063_V01.IMG and JNCE_2016026_00C00064_V01.IMG Yes, that's an example of the effect I described. QUOTE Besides compression factor, are there other instrument configuration parameters that effect imaging characteristics which are not recorded in the metadata? If we ever changed any of the piecewise linear companding parameters (which we don't plan to do) there is no place to record them in the metadata. One issue is that the PDS doesn't easily provide a way to define new keywords and has a pretty sparse set of standard keywords (for example, we had to lobby to get a keyword to describe the amount of TDI -- even though TDI has been used on earlier instruments, there is no standard keyword for it.) QUOTE One more question: is the imagery collected for the Junocam Calibration Report available online anywhere? Not publicly, no, not at this time. Some missions archive their ground data and some don't, and of the ones that do, some of them spend a lot of effort to make that intelligible and some don't. Most of our ground images were taken with ground support equipment that read out a large area of the CCD including the "junk" between band edges, and so it doesn't fit perfectly into the definition of the standard PDS product. If I thought any of the ground images were generally useful, I'd be more interested in trying to get them into some releasable form. -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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elakdawalla Juno PDS data Jan 8 2016, 10:15 PM
Gerald In the meanwhile I've looked at all the 2x121 ... Jan 14 2016, 02:08 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Gerald @ Jan 13 2016, 06:08 PM) I ... Jan 14 2016, 04:03 AM
Gerald I've implemented a quick&dirty de-blocking... Jan 15 2016, 02:41 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Gerald @ Jan 14 2016, 06:41 PM) I... Jan 15 2016, 03:51 AM
elakdawalla When I ran IMG2PNG on these images I thought the b... Jan 15 2016, 02:53 AM
Gerald This week I worked on a better understanding of th... Jan 22 2016, 05:56 PM
Gerald This one is mostly about finding blips used as sta... Jan 30 2016, 03:27 PM
Gerald This is about a first crude simulation of image JN... Feb 15 2016, 02:46 PM
Gerald The following tentative BSC star identifications o... Feb 22 2016, 06:23 PM
Gerald This article is about a geometric calibration meth... Mar 24 2016, 07:29 PM
wildespace I don't know how to work with IMG files (they ... Jun 27 2016, 07:59 AM
javierluiso QUOTE (wildespace @ Jun 27 2016, 04:59 AM... Jul 2 2016, 03:33 AM
Gerald I'll try to convert the square root encoded ED... Jun 27 2016, 05:36 PM
mcaplinger We didn't take any RGB images of stars and the... Jun 27 2016, 05:49 PM
wildespace QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Jun 27 2016, 06:49 PM... Jun 28 2016, 07:11 AM
Gerald Well, applying the saying would mean, read my post... Jun 27 2016, 09:59 PM
Gerald This is a 16-fold brightness-stretched and 2-fold ... Jun 28 2016, 12:14 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Gerald @ Jun 28 2016, 04:14 AM) Th... Jun 28 2016, 02:16 PM
JohnVV any reason you are not opining img files as a raw ... Jul 2 2016, 07:13 PM
Gerald Reading the IMGs is just the first small hurdle. T... Jul 2 2016, 08:47 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Gerald @ Jul 2 2016, 12:47 PM) The... Jul 2 2016, 09:05 PM
Gerald To me, the most easy file format to handle is the ... Jul 3 2016, 06:25 AM
Gerald Juno PDS Imaging Node is online. Mar 8 2017, 04:05 AM
elakdawalla The first Juno data release to the PDS is out! Jun 27 2017, 10:54 PM
Bjorn Jonsson Today when starting work on some additional Juno i... Aug 26 2017, 01:07 AM
Gerald x=814.21 for the optical axis is astonishingly sim... Sep 6 2017, 12:02 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Gerald @ Sep 6 2017, 04:02 AM) Unf... Sep 6 2017, 04:57 PM
Bjorn Jonsson QUOTE (Gerald @ Sep 6 2017, 12:02 PM) Unf... Sep 19 2017, 12:38 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Sep 18 2017, 04:38... Sep 19 2017, 02:34 AM
Gerald QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Sep 19 2017, 04:34 AM... Oct 28 2017, 11:42 PM
Gerald I'll try to squeeze it in appropriately during... Sep 6 2017, 07:11 PM
Bjorn Jonsson Is there any possibility the compression factor co... Sep 27 2017, 11:00 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Sep 27 2017, 03:00... Sep 27 2017, 11:43 PM
Bjorn Jonsson Yes, ENCODING_COMPRESSION_RATIO in the Galileo fil... Sep 28 2017, 01:01 AM
Brian Swift The Mathematica apps I’ve developed for processing... Sep 29 2017, 08:13 PM
Brian Swift Mike, how small of an INTERFRAME_DELAY can be comm... Dec 18 2017, 06:57 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Brian Swift @ Dec 18 2017, 10:57 A... Dec 18 2017, 08:00 PM
Gerald Any attempts to create SR products would require l... Dec 18 2017, 10:42 PM
Brian Swift Mike, were the MTF images collected during thermov... Jan 31 2018, 01:50 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Brian Swift @ Jan 30 2018, 05:50 P... Jan 31 2018, 01:56 AM

Brian Swift QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Jan 30 2018, 05:56 PM... Jan 31 2018, 04:11 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Brian Swift @ Jan 30 2018, 05:50 P... Jan 31 2018, 05:55 AM
Gerald One of the questions, I've been interested in,... Jan 31 2018, 10:53 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Gerald @ Jan 31 2018, 02:53 AM) On... Jan 31 2018, 12:30 PM
Gerald Far from anything I'd call a proof, but a firs... Jan 31 2018, 03:37 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Gerald @ Jan 31 2018, 07:37 AM) Fa... Jan 31 2018, 06:38 PM
fredk Ioshine or light scattered along Jupiter's atm... Jan 31 2018, 05:26 PM
Gerald With Io's radius of about 1820 km, I get a cro... Jan 31 2018, 06:05 PM
Gerald I've seen the stray light in the later images ... Jan 31 2018, 08:18 PM
Brian Swift Anyone have suggestions on how I can determine the... Feb 23 2018, 08:46 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Brian Swift @ Feb 23 2018, 12:46 P... Feb 24 2018, 03:29 AM
Gerald Out-of-the-hip, I can only say, that the deviation... Feb 24 2018, 02:17 AM
Brian Swift Mike, Gerald - Thanks for the replies.
Rotation a... Feb 26 2018, 08:22 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Brian Swift @ Feb 26 2018, 12:22 A... Feb 26 2018, 03:37 PM
Gerald For DCT compressed images, you get the usual type ... Feb 26 2018, 12:58 PM
Brian Swift QUOTE (Gerald @ Feb 26 2018, 04:58 AM) Th... Feb 26 2018, 06:29 PM
Brian Swift QUOTE (Gerald @ Feb 26 2018, 04:58 AM) He... Mar 1 2018, 04:15 AM
Gerald Inferred means inferred from raw JunoCam images.
A... Feb 26 2018, 10:25 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Gerald @ Feb 26 2018, 02:25 PM) In... Feb 26 2018, 10:36 PM
Brian Swift Note for anyone else who hasn't noticed...
The... Feb 26 2018, 10:30 PM
Gerald I'm not quite sure any more, what we are talki... Feb 26 2018, 11:27 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Gerald @ Feb 26 2018, 03:27 PM) Fo... Feb 27 2018, 03:32 AM
Brian Swift Gerald, do you have a RotOffestZ estimate for JNCE... Mar 1 2018, 05:30 AM
Gerald The effect in your comparison is indeed larger tha... Mar 1 2018, 12:08 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Gerald @ Mar 1 2018, 04:08 AM) Dur... Mar 1 2018, 03:46 PM

Brian Swift QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Mar 1 2018, 07:46 AM)... Mar 1 2018, 06:06 PM

Gerald QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Mar 1 2018, 04:46 PM)... Mar 1 2018, 11:06 PM

Bjorn Jonsson QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Mar 1 2018, 03:46 PM)... Mar 5 2018, 11:22 PM

mcaplinger QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Mar 5 2018, 03:22 ... Mar 6 2018, 03:06 AM

Brian Swift QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Mar 5 2018, 07:06 PM)... Mar 6 2018, 04:03 AM
Brian Swift QUOTE (Gerald @ Mar 1 2018, 04:08 AM) The... Mar 1 2018, 05:24 PM
Gerald Without any warranty, not even tested, just in ter... Mar 2 2018, 10:51 AM
Brian Swift Juno28g, a JunoCam raw processing pipeline impleme... Mar 2 2018, 08:48 PM
Sean Thanks for sharing this Brian...very keen to wrap ... Mar 3 2018, 02:11 AM
Brian Swift QUOTE (Sean @ Mar 2 2018, 06:11 PM) Thank... Mar 3 2018, 05:21 PM
Sean Ah thankee! I've fed 214 raw files into th... Mar 3 2018, 10:00 PM
Brian Swift QUOTE (Sean @ Mar 3 2018, 02:00 PM) Do th... Mar 3 2018, 10:43 PM
Brian Swift QUOTE (Brian Swift @ Mar 3 2018, 02:43 PM... Mar 4 2018, 07:16 AM
Sean Thank you for the explanation.
I have noticed ver... Mar 4 2018, 05:07 PM
Brian Swift QUOTE (Sean @ Mar 4 2018, 09:07 AM) I hav... Mar 4 2018, 10:21 PM
Brian Swift QUOTE (Sean @ Mar 4 2018, 09:07 AM) I hav... Mar 5 2018, 09:19 AM
Sean The example image I used was PJ08_118 Mar 4 2018, 10:31 PM
Sean 'Perijoves'
214 images, 11 perijoves, 3.1... Mar 5 2018, 02:50 AM
Brian Swift QUOTE (Sean @ Mar 4 2018, 06:50 PM) ... Mar 5 2018, 04:38 AM
Brian Swift QUOTE (Sean @ Mar 4 2018, 06:50 PM) ... Mar 5 2018, 05:17 AM
Gerald For my drafts, like these for PJ09, I don't us... Mar 6 2018, 05:03 AM
Brian Swift Mike, Can you release to public domain the photo o... Mar 18 2018, 04:38 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Brian Swift @ Mar 18 2018, 08:38 A... Mar 23 2018, 06:11 PM
Brian Swift QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Mar 23 2018, 11:11 AM... Mar 24 2018, 12:44 AM
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Gerald 82 * 32µs = 2.624ms. This would be a little less t... Mar 26 2018, 02:16 AM![]() ![]() |
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