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Exo Mars 2009 ( Esa ), New Orbiter and Rover Mission to Mars
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post Mar 30 2005, 08:03 PM
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Double Mission to Mars ( 2009 )

Rover Mass: 200kg ( 40 kg carry on load )
Orbiter: works like Mars Express and serves as a relaisstation for the Rover.

The name EXO-MARS comes from Exobiology, which will be one of the main Goals of the mission. To find extraterrestrial Life.
The Rover namend Pasteur equipped with a sophisticated suite of instruments to search systematically for the existence – past or present - of micro-biological processes will drive several km on the surface and drill up to 1,5m down the soil to analyze it.
This mobile laboratory is an essential precursor to a later Aurora Mars Sample Return Mission.

Mission Status: Study Phase nearing completion.

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Picture of the Orbiter:



This mission will be the first mission in ESA's ambitious Aurora Program.


I was wondering why ther was no thread or section about this new mission of ESA...
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post May 9 2005, 01:20 AM
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Intersting news on ExoMars -- although I remain skeptical: France's plans for Netlander were a lot farther advanced before they utterly collapsed. Also, this sounds like an awfully ambitious mission for such a small rover; MSL is a lot bigger, but may not travel any farther per year and doesn't have any drill at all.

As for the news on the US program: I can confirm the switchover to "follow the carbon", starting with MSL -- that's its main rationale -- but it is very far from certain that a follow-up more advanced Astrobiology Field Lab will then be flown. NASA may well decide simply to use one or more MSLs as scouts to look for signs of an interesting amount of trace organics, and then cut directly to the chase by dispatching a sample-return mission to the most promising of those locales.
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post May 18 2006, 10:14 AM
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As for the news on the US program: I can confirm the switchover to "follow the carbon", starting with MSL -- that's its main rationale --

So we're going clearly one step further both in "life" detection but also, for the moment in site selection. I bet that this will start soon to be an important topic of discussion here at UMSF since scientists in charge are supposed to meet next month, IIRC. Looking for evidence of water from orbit is more evident (hum, Gusev...) than traces of carbon. I'm thinking of the clay's maps because clay could have kept whaterver was there when it deposited but that's about it. How can we suspect carbon presence from orbit ?


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post May 18 2006, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE (climber @ May 18 2006, 11:14 AM) *
How can we suspect carbon presence from orbit ?


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[quote name='Bob Shaw' date='May 18 2006, 01:16 PM' post='54685']
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- spaceffm   Exo Mars 2009 ( Esa )   Mar 30 2005, 08:03 PM
- - cIclops   QUOTE (spaceffm @ Mar 30 2005, 08:03 PM)I was...   Mar 30 2005, 08:51 PM
- - spaceffm   Well i think that this mission will come for sure....   Mar 30 2005, 09:03 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (spaceffm @ Mar 30 2005, 09:03 PM)Well ...   Mar 30 2005, 09:21 PM
|- - Reckless   QUOTE (djellison @ Mar 30 2005, 10:21 PM)QUOT...   Mar 30 2005, 10:36 PM
- - spaceffm   well i prefer to stay optimistic about that missio...   Mar 30 2005, 11:40 PM
- - remcook   There will be the need for a demonstrator mission ...   Mar 31 2005, 07:37 AM
- - djellison   Consider the NASA Phoenix mission. It's half b...   Mar 31 2005, 07:56 AM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (djellison @ Mar 31 2005, 02:56 AM)Exo ...   Mar 31 2005, 08:36 AM
- - djellison   Instead of wasting my tax money on a misison like ...   Mar 31 2005, 09:20 AM
- - Sym05   Sym05 from Europe, Italy. EXO Mars and Mars sam...   Mar 31 2005, 11:49 AM
- - spaceffm   well i won't respond to any of political stuff...   Mar 31 2005, 11:57 AM
|- - gpurcell   QUOTE (spaceffm @ Mar 31 2005, 11:57 AM)well ...   Mar 31 2005, 05:23 PM
- - spaceffm   ok, i understand. There seems to be no interest to...   Mar 31 2005, 06:10 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (spaceffm @ Mar 31 2005, 06:10 PM)Perha...   Mar 31 2005, 06:24 PM
|- - Sym05   QUOTE (djellison @ Mar 31 2005, 07:24 PM)Hell...   Mar 31 2005, 07:13 PM
|- - paxdan   BBC article about ESA ExoMars Rover Come on Europ...   Apr 8 2005, 12:50 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (paxdan @ Apr 8 2005, 07:50 AM)Come on ...   Apr 8 2005, 04:21 PM
|- - paxdan   QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Apr 8 2005, 05:21 PM)...   Apr 8 2005, 06:12 PM
|- - tedstryk   As for the Europeans playing the pride-game a la U...   Apr 8 2005, 08:03 PM
|- - cIclops   QUOTE (paxdan @ Apr 8 2005, 06:12 PM)Personal...   Apr 9 2005, 09:44 AM
|- - paxdan   QUOTE (cIclops @ Apr 9 2005, 10:44 AM)QUOTE (...   Apr 9 2005, 12:39 PM
|- - tedstryk   The Aurora outline spoke of small "Arrow...   Apr 9 2005, 02:20 PM
- - Analyst   Two years to Mars?! Sure there are such trajec...   Apr 8 2005, 01:23 PM
- - djellison   Actually - a two year trajectory can be very effic...   Apr 8 2005, 01:27 PM
|- - krrr   QUOTE (djellison @ Apr 8 2005, 01:27 PM)Actua...   May 5 2005, 03:58 PM
- - paxdan   Another BBC article about ESA ExoMars and BeagleNe...   Apr 8 2005, 02:30 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (paxdan @ Apr 8 2005, 02:30 PM)Another ...   Apr 8 2005, 04:14 PM
|- - Stephen   QUOTE (paxdan @ Apr 8 2005, 02:30 PM)Another ...   Apr 15 2005, 01:24 AM
|- - cIclops   QUOTE (Stephen @ Apr 15 2005, 01:24 AM)That a...   Apr 15 2005, 06:15 AM
|- - Stephen   QUOTE (cIclops @ Apr 15 2005, 06:15 AM)The pr...   Apr 15 2005, 01:00 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Ted Stryk: "This is very similar to American ...   Apr 8 2005, 08:02 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Assuming that ESA really funds it at any point in ...   Apr 16 2005, 05:34 PM
- - djellison   I think given the fairly poor funding level of ESA...   Apr 16 2005, 06:23 PM
- - remcook   netlander also seems to get more science for the m...   Apr 18 2005, 08:39 AM
|- - Marcel   http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/te...omars...   Apr 27 2005, 11:48 AM
- - cIclops   For all of you worried about the cost of ExoMars h...   Apr 27 2005, 08:31 PM
|- - gpurcell   QUOTE (cIclops @ Apr 27 2005, 08:31 PM)For al...   Apr 27 2005, 10:15 PM
|- - imran   More information on ExoMars from the Vienna Confer...   May 8 2005, 05:55 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   More details on the proposed mission from the Apri...   May 5 2005, 02:03 AM
|- - gpurcell   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ May 5 2005, 02:03 AM)But...   May 5 2005, 04:43 PM
- - djellison   There was capacity for MERA, MERB, MEX, B2 and Noz...   May 5 2005, 06:29 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   I think G. Purcell is asking whether the com relay...   May 5 2005, 07:32 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Intersting news on ExoMars -- although I remain sk...   May 9 2005, 01:20 AM
|- - climber   As for the news on the US program: I can confirm t...   May 18 2006, 10:14 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (climber @ May 18 2006, 11:14 AM) H...   May 18 2006, 11:16 AM
|- - climber   [quote name='Bob Shaw' date='May 18 20...   May 18 2006, 11:31 AM
- - PhilCo126   on ILA2006 in BERLIN: http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS...   May 18 2006, 09:24 AM
- - Analyst   I didn't find much about ExoMars, but if it is...   May 18 2006, 10:43 AM


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