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Dec 5 2018, 08:29 PM
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Is there any chance we can get a Cubesat in orbit around Mars or would that take too much propellant?
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Dec 5 2018, 10:21 PM
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Well - NASA's committed to not sending any orbiter without Electra UHF radios for relay....so even though MAVEN's orbit isn't great for relay - it still has one (and it performs well). That said - a dedicated relay orbiter fleet is clearly a must-have before humans head that way.
The problem with Cubesats for relay is power and downlink capacity. The MarCO cubesats top out at 8kbps - and can only do a few hours of downlink per day (using the rest of the time to recharge). The power situation would be worse in Mars orbit due to occultation/shadowing etc. A modest MRO UHF pass with Curiosity might be 250 megabits - and that would take almost 9 hours to downlink via a MarCO like spacecraft. Even an order of magnitude improvement over what MarCO can do would be significantly worse than Mars Odyssey is capable of. I think MarCO is generating around 15W at 1.5 AU. When Earth and Mars are at their most distant, they'll probably be down to 1kbps or worse for downlink. That said - there's huge scope for spacecraft like MarCo to have a use out beyond LEO. Exploring Phobos and Deimos, for example. We've been slowly pulling down the best of the images MarCO B took during its flyby - each little 752 x 480 image takes around 10 minutes. It was more like 20 before we asked the gumstix camera board to start GZipping them before downlink |
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pioneer Mars Cubesat Orbiter? Dec 5 2018, 08:29 PM
djellison A spacecraft would probably need something over 10... Dec 5 2018, 09:25 PM
nprev I wonder about the longevity of CubeSats for such ... Dec 5 2018, 09:33 PM
mcaplinger 12U cubesat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Mi... Dec 5 2018, 10:45 PM
nprev Yeah, that bitrate ain't gonna cut it for sure... Dec 6 2018, 01:23 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 5 2018, 05:23 PM) Yeah... Dec 6 2018, 02:39 AM
djellison OK - Wow - that's pretty epic for a the Ka ban... Dec 6 2018, 02:50 AM
pioneer Thanks for the answers. Dec 6 2018, 03:51 AM
HSchirmer QUOTE (pioneer @ Dec 5 2018, 09:29 PM) Is... Dec 6 2018, 05:48 AM
vjkane There's a fairly detailed presentation on the ... Dec 6 2018, 02:27 PM![]() ![]() |
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