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Feb 24 2021, 01:41 AM
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This thread is for those rockhounds among us to discuss the new terrain we'll see as Perseverance scoots around her new home. Let's get dirty & technical!
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Mar 9 2021, 10:20 AM
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Do we have any insight as to why the small deltaic remnants exist at such a distance from the main delta front? Did they move somehow from where they were emplaced? What could cause the significant and remarkably complete (scoured clean down to the top of the underlying unit) erosion of the delta material and what saved these remnants which are presumably analogues of the main delta. Could they have been islands in the lake?
The interesting one (to me) to the north looks much like a volcano from above with no clear evidence of stratification. There are some concentric dust rings that might relate to strata but it’s hard to be sure. Getting a close look at that might yield some useful information about the delta and the erosional processes that have sculpted the front. |
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Mar 9 2021, 11:22 AM
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Do we have any insight as to why the small deltaic remnants exist at such a distance from the main delta front? Did they move somehow from where they were emplaced? What could cause the significant and remarkably complete (scoured clean down to the top of the underlying unit) erosion of the delta material and what saved these remnants which are presumably analogues of the main delta. Could they have been islands in the lake? Likely chance and the vagaries of the wind over billions of years. |
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nprev The Geology of Jezero Crater Feb 24 2021, 01:41 AM
HSchirmer QUOTE (nprev @ Feb 24 2021, 02:41 AM) Thi... Feb 24 2021, 01:51 AM
dougkeenan Is it indeed "Geology" and not "Are... Feb 24 2021, 02:13 AM
HSchirmer QUOTE (dougkeenan @ Feb 24 2021, 03:13 AM... Feb 24 2021, 02:31 AM
Phil Stooke This has been a discussion since the 1960s. I rem... Feb 24 2021, 02:52 AM
HSchirmer QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Feb 24 2021, 03:52 A... Feb 24 2021, 03:32 AM
Pando QUOTE (HSchirmer @ Feb 23 2021, 07:32 PM)... Feb 24 2021, 04:41 AM
Don1 Some resources:
A recent USGS geological map of t... Feb 24 2021, 03:11 AM
Eutectic QUOTE (Don1 @ Feb 23 2021, 09:11 PM) Some... Feb 24 2021, 09:48 AM
JRehling For now, we have a mission that'll be explorin... Feb 24 2021, 05:00 PM
HSchirmer QUOTE (JRehling @ Feb 24 2021, 05:00 PM) ... Feb 24 2021, 08:06 PM
JRehling What we see now in the near distance is not though... Feb 24 2021, 09:55 PM
HSchirmer QUOTE (JRehling @ Feb 24 2021, 09:55 PM) ... Feb 25 2021, 12:48 AM
stevesliva Because this forum is now old enough to drive, the... Feb 24 2021, 04:32 AM
nprev ....aaaand, were done with the pedantry.
Let... Feb 24 2021, 07:16 AM
serpens QUOTE (nprev @ Feb 24 2021, 07:16 AM) ...... Feb 24 2021, 07:34 AM
serpens The consensus seems to be that the crater floor wa... Feb 25 2021, 02:16 AM
JRehling One detail in the Sol 3 panorama that's especi... Feb 25 2021, 04:29 PM
HSchirmer QUOTE (JRehling @ Feb 25 2021, 04:29 PM) ... Feb 25 2021, 06:15 PM
Andreas Plesch Delta erosion
At distances of a few hundered mete... Feb 26 2021, 09:44 PM
HSchirmer QUOTE (Andreas Plesch @ Feb 26 2021, 10:4... Feb 26 2021, 11:37 PM
serpens Good post Andreas. The isolated hills have been n... Feb 27 2021, 12:00 AM
HSchirmer QUOTE (serpens @ Feb 27 2021, 12:00 AM) I... Feb 27 2021, 12:41 AM
Andreas Plesch QUOTE (HSchirmer @ Feb 26 2021, 07:41 PM)... Feb 27 2021, 02:20 AM
serpens The possibility that the mafic floor unit is sedim... Feb 27 2021, 03:28 AM
HSchirmer QUOTE (serpens @ Feb 27 2021, 03:28 AM) T... Feb 27 2021, 01:33 PM
serpens QUOTE (HSchirmer @ Feb 27 2021, 01:33 PM)... Feb 27 2021, 11:47 PM
pioneer Does anyone know which rock Perseverance will exam... Feb 27 2021, 04:47 PM
Phil Stooke No news on that yet. Things are just ramping up a... Feb 27 2021, 05:22 PM
Marz
This image was cropped from the mastcam-z pan. ... Feb 27 2021, 05:38 PM
Andreas Plesch QUOTE (Marz @ Feb 27 2021, 12:38 PM)
Th... Feb 27 2021, 07:24 PM

Marz QUOTE (Andreas Plesch @ Feb 27 2021, 02:2... Feb 27 2021, 07:33 PM

Steve5304 QUOTE (Andreas Plesch @ Feb 27 2021, 08:2... Feb 28 2021, 05:11 AM

JRehling Opportunity and Curiosity both found rocks that we... Feb 28 2021, 05:35 AM

ElkGroveDan QUOTE (Steve5304 @ Feb 27 2021, 09:11 PM)... Mar 4 2021, 10:13 PM
HSchirmer QUOTE (Marz @ Feb 27 2021, 06:38 PM) This... Feb 27 2021, 08:58 PM
Pando While these "holey" rocks appear light i... Feb 27 2021, 07:30 PM
Blue Sky If the crater floor is covered by ash or other vol... Feb 27 2021, 07:39 PM
JRehling It's virtually certain that some of the materi... Feb 27 2021, 09:20 PM
MahFL QUOTE (Blue Sky @ Feb 27 2021, 07:39 PM) ... Feb 28 2021, 06:39 AM
Andreas Plesch Yes, these lineations may have formed from aeolian... Feb 28 2021, 02:08 AM
JRehling Great look at the layering in the outlier, Andreas... Feb 28 2021, 02:42 AM
Andreas Plesch QUOTE (JRehling @ Feb 27 2021, 09:42 PM) ... Feb 28 2021, 04:14 AM
serpens QUOTE (Andreas Plesch @ Feb 28 2021, 04:1... Feb 28 2021, 10:42 PM
Andreas Plesch QUOTE (serpens @ Feb 28 2021, 05:42 PM) T... Mar 1 2021, 07:21 PM
Marz this is a high-level description of the regional g... Feb 28 2021, 09:42 PM
HSchirmer QUOTE (Marz @ Feb 28 2021, 09:42 PM) this... Feb 28 2021, 10:58 PM
SulliedGoon If caves created by ancient running waters
existed... Mar 1 2021, 03:23 AM
HSchirmer Hat tip to serpens for finding a paper about coast... Mar 1 2021, 02:24 PM
serpens Perhaps just coincidence but the pre-Tharsis high ... Mar 1 2021, 09:19 PM
MarkL A couple of things interest me here (inset of ESP_... Mar 3 2021, 06:56 PM
atomoid That seeming volcanic cone is quite distinct and i... Mar 4 2021, 01:08 AM
HSchirmer QUOTE (atomoid @ Mar 4 2021, 01:08 AM) He... Mar 4 2021, 04:36 PM
atomoid ...That large image size is giving my eye-crossing... Mar 4 2021, 10:10 PM
serpens The cones are the product of aeolian erosion. The... Mar 4 2021, 01:53 AM
MarkL QUOTE (serpens @ Mar 4 2021, 02:53 AM) Th... Mar 4 2021, 03:34 AM
Blue Sky The canyon at lower left in the picture in post #5... Mar 4 2021, 03:54 AM
MarkL Wouldn't that be one crazy vista? Imagine loo... Mar 4 2021, 04:22 AM
Gladstoner A portion of a possible traverse that would examin... Mar 4 2021, 06:50 AM
MahFL QUOTE (Gladstoner @ Mar 4 2021, 06:50 AM)... Mar 4 2021, 08:31 PM
vjkane QUOTE (Gladstoner @ Mar 3 2021, 10:50 PM)... Mar 4 2021, 09:55 PM
Gladstoner Would also like to examine some of these up close:... Mar 4 2021, 06:58 AM
HSchirmer QUOTE (Gladstoner @ Mar 4 2021, 06:58 AM)... Mar 4 2021, 04:51 PM
serpens QUOTE (Gladstoner @ Mar 4 2021, 06:58 AM)... Mar 8 2021, 12:39 AM
HSchirmer QUOTE (serpens @ Mar 8 2021, 01:39 AM) I ... Mar 8 2021, 11:58 PM
serpens vjkane, Perseverance has four primary mission obje... Mar 4 2021, 10:55 PM
vjkane QUOTE (serpens @ Mar 4 2021, 02:55 PM) vj... Mar 5 2021, 12:24 AM
serpens I thought the revised schedule was for launch of t... Mar 5 2021, 12:47 AM
vjkane QUOTE (serpens @ Mar 4 2021, 04:47 PM) I ... Mar 5 2021, 02:04 AM
Explorer1 One of the papers I read (can't find it now) i... Mar 5 2021, 03:45 AM
vjkane QUOTE (Explorer1 @ Mar 4 2021, 07:45 PM) ... Mar 5 2021, 05:28 AM
MahFL QUOTE (vjkane @ Mar 5 2021, 05:28 AM) ...... Mar 5 2021, 07:25 AM

JRehling One solution to this would be to fill about 3/4 (~... Mar 5 2021, 10:06 AM

vjkane QUOTE (JRehling @ Mar 5 2021, 02:06 AM) O... Mar 5 2021, 02:23 PM

JRehling Thanks for the full background, Van.
It was this ... Mar 5 2021, 04:23 PM

Andreas Plesch QUOTE (vjkane @ Mar 5 2021, 09:23 AM) Phi... Mar 5 2021, 06:59 PM

JRehling I share the subjective feeling that Andreas indica... Mar 5 2021, 08:44 PM

vjkane QUOTE (Andreas Plesch @ Mar 5 2021, 10:59... Mar 6 2021, 12:56 AM

Andreas Plesch QUOTE (vjkane @ Mar 5 2021, 07:56 PM) Fro... Mar 6 2021, 02:01 AM

vjkane QUOTE (Andreas Plesch @ Mar 5 2021, 06:01... Mar 6 2021, 02:02 PM
HSchirmer RE: The Geology of Jezero Crater Mar 5 2021, 12:08 PM
HSchirmer QUOTE (vjkane @ Mar 5 2021, 05:28 AM) If ... Mar 5 2021, 12:12 PM
serpens I suspect that as with Curiosity there will be sig... Mar 5 2021, 11:04 PM
HSchirmer I found the timeline for Jezro in the press packag... Mar 6 2021, 03:13 PM
tdemko I’m not sure the emphasis is on the pre-lake depos... Mar 6 2021, 10:59 PM
JRehling Good information, tdemko.
In this case, it seems ... Mar 7 2021, 12:29 AM
nprev Should I just change the name of this thread to ... Mar 7 2021, 11:31 AM
tdemko Not sure if the question about experimental basin ... Mar 8 2021, 02:04 PM
Andreas Plesch The source of the sediments in the delta
The (mai... Mar 8 2021, 09:02 PM
JRehling With both respect and gratitude for the expertise ... Mar 9 2021, 12:27 AM
tdemko QUOTE (JRehling @ Mar 8 2021, 07:27 PM) W... Mar 9 2021, 02:43 AM
serpens Andreas, despite erosion there are obvious remnant... Mar 9 2021, 01:17 AM
Andreas Plesch There are sedimentologists specializing in landsca... Mar 9 2021, 02:29 AM
serpens QUOTE (Andreas Plesch @ Mar 9 2021, 03:29... Mar 9 2021, 02:36 PM
Andreas Plesch QUOTE (serpens @ Mar 9 2021, 09:36 AM) Wh... Mar 9 2021, 03:08 PM
HSchirmer QUOTE (serpens @ Mar 9 2021, 02:36 PM) Wh... Mar 9 2021, 03:30 PM
Andreas Plesch I find myself agreeing with much of what the abstr... Mar 9 2021, 02:54 AM
HSchirmer QUOTE Do we have any insight as to why the small d... Mar 9 2021, 12:14 PM![]() ![]() |
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