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What's Up With Hayabusa? (fka Muses-c) |
Jun 13 2005, 08:12 PM
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I cant wait to see what imagery we get from the 'hopper' - it will be the first PROPER landing on a small body if they can pull it off
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Jul 7 2005, 03:26 PM
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-------------------- The scientist does not study nature because it is useful; he studies it because he delights in it, and he delights in it because it is beautiful.
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Jul 7 2005, 03:40 PM
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Founder ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Chairman Posts: 14445 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
Wow - it's not far out now
It's closing speed is very slow as I understand though. Doug |
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Jul 10 2005, 09:42 PM
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Astro-E2 has just been successfully launched:
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2005/07/20050710_m-v-6_e.html Is it possible that Japan is finally coming out of its space funk? (Although the solar-panel problem with Hayabusa is worrisome. It's increasingly apparent that radiation is not only the biggest threat to manned deep-space travel; it's a serious problem for the UNMANNED variety.) |
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Jul 10 2005, 10:26 PM
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So I guess it DID launch with some type of external mobile device! I kept hearing conflicting reports that nasa was supposed to supply the tiny rover and it didn't and then that it wasn't going to have one at all and now that it does have a hopper. Was it slapped together quick after the nasa nanorover deal fell through or planned on al along or what...? This site doesn't say too much....
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Jul 11 2005, 05:05 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 307 Joined: 16-March 05 Member No.: 198 |
QUOTE (deglr6328 @ Jul 10 2005, 10:26 PM) So I guess it DID launch with some type of external mobile device! I kept hearing conflicting reports that nasa was supposed to supply the tiny rover and it didn't and then that it wasn't going to have one at all and now that it does have a hopper. Was it slapped together quick after the nasa nanorover deal fell through or planned on al along or what...? This site doesn't say too much.... Try this LPI (PDF) page instead. It's fairly brief, but it does tell you a little about the little "hopper" craft (called "Minerva", BTW). This Wikipedia page also has some (less technical) tidbits, while this JAXA page looks like it might be useful. In general, though, this press release seems to sum up pretty much all that's out there about Minerva: "Upon its arrival at the asteroid in the summer of 2005, the Hayabusa spacecraft will hover near the asteroid's surface for about four months. Its instruments will study the surface in detail, determine the asteroid's mass and bulk density and determine which minerals are present. A small coffee-can-sized surface hopper, called MINERVA, will leap about the asteroid taking surface temperature measurements and high-resolution images with each of its three miniature cameras." |
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Jul 15 2005, 05:09 PM
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Its at less than .5 earth-moon distance now. Still no images....? I need "more detaile"!!
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Jul 15 2005, 05:20 PM
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Solar System Cartographer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10255 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
The reason there are no images is simple: the asteroid is only a few hundred m across, so from 150 000 km it would only be a pixel or two across in an image. The camera is designed to operate from 20 km distance. They are presumably taking navigation images, but not worth releasing.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Jul 15 2005, 07:15 PM
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Yeah - this is one TINY asteroid - I think Dactyl ( Ida's tiny moon - an asteroid that Galileo flew past en route to Jupiter) is the only thing even remotely on the same size - but the asteroid Hayabusa is visiting is even smaller than THAT
It's like visiting a single block of houses. Doug |
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Jul 22 2005, 07:35 PM
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I've been tracking the distance to target from this website.
On June 13th it was 135,172Km On June 21st it is 97,614Km Getting closer! At this rate they will be there in a couple more weeks. |
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Jul 25 2005, 03:19 PM
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![]() Junior Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 90 Joined: 20-April 05 Member No.: 289 |
Update from the webpage indicated above.
QUOTE Hayabusa is entering into the conjunction area that defined 3 degrees of view angle from the sun since second week of July.
Hayabusa will be out from the conjunction area on end of July and will be restarted ordinary operation. During the conjunction period, Ion Engine System (IES) is stopped. On beginning of August, IES will be operated again. On middle of September, Hayabusa will reach to the asteroid Itokawa |
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Jul 25 2005, 06:57 PM
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![]() Interplanetary Dumpster Diver ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 4405 Joined: 17-February 04 From: Powell, TN Member No.: 33 |
I am very interested to see an asteroid of this size close up. I am curious to see if it has any significant loose material on its surface, given its low gravity. I am also wondering how, if the mission is successful, the Japanese will do with image releases. They haven't ever had much to release - there were a few neat Nozomi pictures, but they were highly compressed and limited in quantity. The ultraviolet image results from Susei were very limited as well, and were of course pre-internet era. I hope that they will improve their releases if they have a successful imaging mission.
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Jul 25 2005, 07:57 PM
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Solar System Cartographer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10255 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
This page:
http://pds-smallbodies.astro.umd.edu/missi...busa/index.html gives some information on plans for data archiving. It looks as if PDS will hold the Hayabusa archive. Which is good news for everybody, I would say. Arival in mid-September... Darn! I'll be on vacation at the time. I'll have to sneak into an internet cafe for my fix. Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PDF: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
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Aug 2 2005, 12:54 PM
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![]() Junior Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 90 Joined: 20-April 05 Member No.: 289 |
Distance to target:
July 21st : 97,614Km August 1st : 63,0808km Closer....closer... |
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Aug 2 2005, 02:34 PM
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![]() Interplanetary Dumpster Diver ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 4405 Joined: 17-February 04 From: Powell, TN Member No.: 33 |
This looks cool:
In-situ exploration of the surface of asteroid Itokawa by MINERVA engineering rover on board HAYABUSA Sho Sasaki Tetsuo Yoshimitsu Masahisa Yanagisawa Hajime Yano Keisuke Teramoto National Astronomical Observatory of Japan ISAS/JAXA Univ. Electro-Comm. ISAS/JAXA ISAS/JAXA ISAS/JAXA in Japan has launched an engineering spacecraft Hayabusa to Itokawa, a small S-type asteroid with approximate size 600m x 300m. A small rover called MINERVA (MIcro/Nano Experimental Robot Vehicle for Asteroid) is on board HAYABUSA. The rover has a hexadecagonal shape with diameter 12cm and heigh 10cm. Weight of the rover is 591g. MINERVA, which is the first asteroid rover in the world, will be deployed onto the surface of Itokawa at altitude around 17m shortly before the surface sampling touch-down of Hayabusa. After landing on the surface, MINERVA moves over the surface autonomously by hopping for a couple of days. On rotating a torquer inside the rover, a reaction force against the surface friction can hop the rover. MINERVA has three CCD cameras (RGB color) to capture surface images. Two of the cameras consist of a stereo pair and have short focal length to observe nearby targets, and the last camera has focal length to observe more distant targets. To protect solar cells, MINERVA has 16 pins sticking out of both ends of the body. Six of the pins are thermal probes by which variation of surface temperature is directly measured. The scientific objectives of MINERVA are as follows: (1) To obtain images of the asteroid surface in visible wavelength. (2) To construct a detailed surface model especially using stereo images taken by short-focal length pair cameras. To discuss presence and characteristics (sand/rock ratio etc.) of surface regolith. (3) To obtain the brightness and color variation of the surface especially for discussing the ongoing space weathering. (4) To investigate the thermal properties of the surface regolith from temperature history of the same place. (5) To measure local gravity direction and surface friction coefficient. Presenting author: Sho Sasaki -------------------- |
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