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What's Up With Hayabusa? (fka Muses-c)
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post Nov 26 2005, 12:20 AM
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QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Nov 26 2005, 09:01 AM)
Well, now I have an inquietant question....

Does the Japanese people shout or embrace someone when they get a good news such as the Hayabusa's successfull collection of samples or not?    unsure.gif

The american team does it very effusively when any spacecraft (unmmaned or manned) have got the aim.

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Yes! we also does it very effusively when our spacecraft (even if unmmaned ) have got the aim.
just like this.....

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=ht...Flanguage_tools
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post Nov 26 2005, 12:22 AM
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QUOTE (butakun @ Nov 26 2005, 11:17 AM)
In fact, no. There is nothing on board that can verify that. They assume material to be collected, if the bullet was fired and the probe's attitude was properly oriented. So I guess what they will verify next is the detailed attitude history of the probe. I am not sure if there is any sensor on the sampler horn's movement.

EDIT: (clarification) if memory serves, the sampler horn simply detects the contact and the bullet gets fired.
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Thanks,

It would be great if they took a picture just after lift off - A picture showing the bullet hole/crater and the inprint of the collection horn around it would be about as good as it could get!


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post Nov 26 2005, 12:23 AM
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I am basing my idea that the horn can detect collection of matter on a response to that very question by one of the JAXA team members at one of the press conferences.. but it's possible I misinterpreted the answer. I hope it can detect actual collection. smile.gif
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post Nov 26 2005, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE (5thstar)
Yes, I will give you yet another "Zabuton 5 Mai" for the Lipo-D gag team! ;-)


Well done mato and Decepticon!


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post Nov 26 2005, 12:39 AM
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Area in front of the monitors visible on webcam is getting crowded
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post Nov 26 2005, 12:43 AM
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QUOTE (gonbe @ Nov 25 2005, 07:20 PM)
Yes! we also does it very effusively when  our spacecraft (even if unmmaned ) have got the aim.
just like this.....

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=ht...Flanguage_tools
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Gonbe, this URL is a very good Blog. It has a very fluenty communication. Anyway, I am glad to know more about the Japanese's costums. wink.gif

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post Nov 26 2005, 12:44 AM
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QUOTE (TheChemist @ Nov 26 2005, 12:58 AM)
Thanks everybody at Japan for keeping us updated, and congratulations, it seems success is near, fingers crossed !  :)
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Great thanks to you too... you're truly admirable supporters.
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post Nov 26 2005, 12:46 AM
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Latest google translated update:

High interest rate profitable communication establishment of the Usuda

High interest rate profitable communication with the Usuda bureau (high gain communication. Communication at high speed) you established. Presently, the on board data is downloaded, it is the place where analysis is begun.

EDIT - now in real english!

11/26: High-gain transmission established

High-gain (high-speed) transmission between Hayabusa and Usuda Deep Space Center has been established. Now engineers are working for analyzing initially downloaded packets.


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post Nov 26 2005, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE (mike @ Nov 25 2005, 07:23 PM)
I am basing my idea that the horn can detect collection of matter on a response to that very question by one of the JAXA team members at one of the press conferences.. but it's possible I misinterpreted the answer.  I hope it can detect actual collection.  smile.gif
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At the beginning of this topic, we have learned that they have no way to confirm about the collection of samples by checking it from the canister. The only way to confirm it is that the horn had already collected dust samples only after a firing of a ball accompanying by others factors such as the confirmation of touchdown and the blend of more than 1 cms to horn when it touched on the surface. huh.gif smile.gif

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post Nov 26 2005, 01:00 AM
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Matsuura writes:
'We still have one more bullet and a marker left, though the fuel is tight. GO/NOGO for another trial, simply depends on Kawaguchi's decision.'
http://smatsu.air-nifty.com/lbyd/2005/11/post_87bb.html

...Um, wait,,,
does it mean, they did not close the first sample capsule, because they managed to land at the same place? Does they also have one empty capsule yet?

Volks, I guess we might need some Lipos again in the coming few days
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post Nov 26 2005, 01:04 AM
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QUOTE (Kei-ichiro Sakurai @ Nov 26 2005, 12:00 PM)
Matsuura writes:
'We still have one more bullet and a marker left, though the fuel is tight. GO/NOGO for another trial, simply depends on Kawaguchi's decision.'
http://smatsu.air-nifty.com/lbyd/2005/11/post_87bb.html

...Um, wait,,,
does it mean, they did not close the first sample capsule, because they managed to land at the same place? Does they also have one empty capsule yet?

Volks, I guess we might need some Lipos again in the coming few days
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If todays run was as successful as it appears, I would be very surprised if they risked a second landing. Just get that sample home!

P.S Fitting that we've gone through 1000 posts in this thread on todays landing! cool.gif


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post Nov 26 2005, 01:07 AM
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Following is translation by Mr. RogueEngineer. Thanks a lot!(by Matsuura)

Rough English translation of this entry:

(First Picture) The operation room shortly after the confirmation of mission success. The connection of Usuda and Hayabusa is back on line. The staff is gathering in front of the console to see if the sample accuisition was a success or not. Picture taken by the press at 8:43 AM.
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(Second Picture) Kawaguchi project manager looks relieved to see the operation was a success. Now it's all up to him if there will be another sample acquisition attempt or not. The situation of remaining propellant is critical, but we still have bullets and a target marker onboard. Picture taken by the press at 8:45 AM.
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(Third Picture) Professor Matokawa, smiling and showing a V sign to the streaming Web cam. It's not "let's do another two attempts", it's a V sign! (picture taken by Mitsunari Kita)Attached Image

I want to express to JAXA team and their co-workers for the BIG success of the 2nd touchdown and also of the JAXA desire to get for the third touchdown. Better take more massages as to relax before to face up another challenge !!! cool.gif

Does anybody know about the DEADLINE TIME TO GO BACK HOME? We just know only on December... but what day? smile.gif

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post Nov 26 2005, 01:23 AM
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QUOTE (TheChemist @ Nov 26 2005, 08:58 AM)
Thanks everybody at Japan for keeping us updated, and congratulations, it seems success is near, fingers crossed !  smile.gif
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Thank you !
We japanese are proud of Hayabusa staff and all menbers concerned in
this mission.
but I think probably most of the staff has also been conscious of the fact
that a lot of people joined in this blog has observed in real time in the
world and It probably became one of thier motive which perseveres vigorously
as all-nighter.
Therefore I would like to express my hearty thanks to everyone in this blog.

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post Nov 26 2005, 01:34 AM
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Here is a part of the translation of the latest Matsuura's blog:

title: "What we assure now is: the sampler horn touched something"

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A phone call came from the Project Manager Kawaguchi. It was an answer to the question from the press "At what time did it land?"
His answer was "The sampler horn touched something at 07:07am in the Hayabusa time."
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post Nov 26 2005, 01:36 AM
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Analyzing data - Hurry up guys!



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