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Nov 29 2023, 09:24 PM
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Some of the images have been posted on missionjuno.
You will immediately notice that there is something weird about them. Yes, we know about this, and I'll say more about it when I can. In the meantime, anything people can do to process them would be appreciated. I've had some success using https://github.com/chunglabmit/pystripe -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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Dec 4 2023, 07:37 AM
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Posted following at https://www.missionjuno.swri.edu/junocam/discussion
From the Image Processing Welcome message at https://www.missionjuno.swri.edu/junocam/processing#Welcome " JunoCam is now showing the effects of that radiation on some of its parts. PJ56 images show a reduction in our dynamic range and an increase in background and noise. We invite citizen scientists to explore new ways to process these images to continue to bring out the beauty and mysteries of Jupiter and its moons. " Being part of the JunoCam image processing community, gaining a clearer understanding of the challenges would enable us to enhance our image processing techniques. Transparently sharing technical details, insights, and ongoing analysis from the project would boost our efficiency and improve our ability to devise effective workarounds. The following image compares green channel PJ55_72 transformed with a very preliminary model of the image corruption issue with PJ56_191 raw data: |
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Dec 4 2023, 03:50 PM
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Transparently sharing technical details, insights, and ongoing analysis from the project... Did you have specific questions? I can't really do anything with a request this broad. And I think you are overestimating the value of the "ongoing analysis". -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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Dec 5 2023, 04:47 AM
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Did you have specific questions? I can't really do anything with a request this broad. And I think you are overestimating the value of the "ongoing analysis". What causes have been considered/analyzed and dismissed? What are the current "most likely" causes? Is the problem before, in, or after the ADC? Is the companding implemented in HW circuit. And while we're at it, as-flown schematics of instrument. Particularly, path from CCD to RAM (assuming problem is known to occur before bytes reach RAM.) Is it just a coincidence that the noise (in de-companded values) is now ~256x larger (based on just looking at green channel from PJ55 and PJ56 "radiation trend monitoring" images.) |
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Dec 5 2023, 05:16 AM
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What causes have been considered/analyzed and dismissed? Bad bits out of ADC, basically everything after the CCD amplifier output. QUOTE What are the current "most likely" causes? Radiation degradation of the CCD or possibly a bias voltage supply. QUOTE Is the problem before, in, or after the ADC? Before. QUOTE Is the companding implemented in HW circuit. Digital hardware, see above. The problem is not in companding. QUOTE And while we're at it, as-flown schematics of instrument. I'm sure you're aware that this is not a very realistic request. There's a nice block diagram in https://www.missionjuno.swri.edu/pub/e/down...each_Camera.pdf that should answer many questions. As time has gone by, we've had to be more and more conservative about the level of detail we've released in the open literature due to ITAR. That said, it's more or less the same as what's described in a little more detail in https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi...29/2008JE003315 for the MRO MARCI, sections 3.3.3 to 3.3.5. I can't share the specific part numbers of any of the ICs, though. -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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mcaplinger Juno Perijove 56 Nov 29 2023, 09:24 PM
Kevin Gill QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Nov 29 2023, 05:24 PM... Nov 29 2023, 09:35 PM
Antdoghalo The camera color really took a beating with this e... Nov 30 2023, 02:16 AM
mcaplinger From https://www.missionjuno.swri.edu/junocam/proc... Nov 30 2023, 08:29 PM
stevesliva QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Nov 30 2023, 03:29 PM... Nov 30 2023, 09:34 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (stevesliva @ Nov 30 2023, 01:34 PM... Nov 30 2023, 09:54 PM
Explorer1 Interesting that it's such a major change in o... Nov 30 2023, 09:08 PM
volcanopele QUOTE (Explorer1 @ Nov 30 2023, 02:08 PM)... Nov 30 2023, 10:41 PM
Antdoghalo As much as I'd like to see perhaps a social me... Dec 1 2023, 07:42 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Antdoghalo @ Dec 1 2023, 11:42 AM)... Dec 1 2023, 08:22 PM
Gerald QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Dec 1 2023, 10:22 PM)... Dec 2 2023, 06:12 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Gerald @ Dec 1 2023, 10:12 PM) The... Dec 2 2023, 03:17 PM
mcaplinger The approach images have been posted so one can wa... Dec 1 2023, 08:05 PM
Kevin Gill Single GRS frame from the approach movie.
Dec 1 2023, 08:42 PM
Kevin Gill And all the RGB frames from the approach movie. Th... Dec 1 2023, 08:47 PM
Gerald Some of my early thoughts about the striping artef... Dec 2 2023, 02:39 AM
stevesliva Mostly in response to Gerald.
I'm afield of m... Dec 3 2023, 01:01 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (stevesliva @ Dec 2 2023, 05:01 PM)... Dec 3 2023, 01:36 AM
Bjorn Jonsson Destriping the images seems to be trivial. I'v... Dec 4 2023, 08:42 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Dec 4 2023, 12:42 ... Dec 4 2023, 09:15 PM
siravan Is there any possibility of changing the exposure ... Dec 5 2023, 03:29 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (siravan @ Dec 4 2023, 07:29 PM) Is... Dec 5 2023, 03:38 AM
Brian Swift QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Dec 4 2023, 07:38 PM)... Dec 5 2023, 07:10 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Brian Swift @ Dec 4 2023, 11:10 PM... Dec 5 2023, 03:19 PM
Bjorn Jonsson I have been making nice progress with the PJ56 ima... Dec 10 2023, 01:24 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Dec 9 2023, 05:24 ... Dec 16 2023, 05:47 PM
Brian Swift QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Dec 16 2023, 09:47 AM... Dec 17 2023, 05:22 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Brian Swift @ Dec 17 2023, 09:22 A... Dec 17 2023, 06:10 PM
Bjorn Jonsson Image PJ56_132:
The left image is an approximat... Dec 15 2023, 11:45 PM
StargazeInWonder Beautiful images, despite the upstream glitches. I... Dec 17 2023, 05:41 AM
Bjorn Jonsson The PJ56 images are good enough that I wouldn... Dec 18 2023, 01:28 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Dec 17 2023, 05:28... Dec 18 2023, 02:32 AM
StargazeInWonder It's a somewhat unknowable unknown, but the in... Dec 18 2023, 04:47 AM
volcanopele Yeah, Io's spectrum has a significant break ar... Dec 18 2023, 03:50 PM
Brian Swift My current thought is that when taking images that... Dec 18 2023, 06:11 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Brian Swift @ Dec 18 2023, 10:11 A... Dec 18 2023, 11:51 PM
StargazeInWonder I just took Bjorn's approximately true color p... Dec 19 2023, 02:54 AM
volcanopele tried that out with one of the PJ55 images and it ... Dec 20 2023, 05:10 PM
Bjorn Jonsson Creating synthetic images using a linear combinati... Dec 23 2023, 12:29 AM![]() ![]() |
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