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Jan 4 2024, 05:21 PM
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(Started a new thread to avoid cluttering up the PJ57 thread with PJ58 discussion.)
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Feb 8 2024, 01:40 AM
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This is an updated plot of the values I use for correcting the color in the JunoCam images. It shows the now well known reddening of the images as the mission progresses. Interestingly, the reddening trend became more irregular once the first JunoCam anomaly occurred at PJ48. In particular, the images temporarily became less red after PJ48 but are now again getting redder - there was a very large change (reddening) from PJ57 to PJ58.
There was a very rapid reddening from PJ47 to PJ48 (i.e. immediately before the PJ48 anomaly) and again from PJ53 to PJ54. The third large change is PJ57 to PJ58. I suspect these all correspond to a lot of radiation. Smaller changes might simply be a coincidence or they might be associated with lower levels of radiation or (in some cases) mitigation measures like heating the camera between perijoves as was successfully done before PJ57 in response to the PJ56 anomaly. |
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Feb 8 2024, 02:57 AM
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I keep mulling this over and had the following speculation…
Ionization caused solely by electromagnetic radiation normally has a distinct threshold effect. In the way we encounter this most painfully, we can get a sunburn from the UV in sunlight, but interestingly, we cannot get a sunburn from longer or more intense exposure to visible light. (We can get a thermal burn, of course, but that's another phenomenon.) There is an energy of ionization for a given molecule / bond and a photon either reaches that threshold or does not. For the bonds in most organic compounds, it requires UV to reach that threshold. Intense blue light will not give you a sunburn. What we see with this reddening is directionally aligned with sunburn: It is as though operations during the mission are harming the shortest wavelength filter a significant degree; the next-shortest, less so. This doesn't display the thresholding that one expects with radiative ionization. Is it possible that the charged particle radiation from Jupiter and the visible light radiation are somehow additive in damaging camera elements, such that the high end of the stochastic distribution of charged particles is enough to cause damage when added to the visible light of different wavelengths, making blue capable of causing somewhat of a sunburn, green less so, and red less still? If so, then is the imagery performed by JunoCam (which is overwhelmingly, of course, of Jupiter) a causative part of the damage? Put another way, might the reddening have been avoided for arbitrary spans of time if the camera had not been used to image Jupiter? Heaps of speculation there, and too little too late in any case, but the mystery remains intriguing. |
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Feb 8 2024, 04:44 PM
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It is as though operations during the mission are harming the shortest wavelength filter a significant degree; the next-shortest, less so. If there has been wavelength-dependent degradation (I don't think the case is 100% made for this, but it would not be unexpected) it is almost certainly due to radiation darkening, which is caused by exposure to the jovian charged-particle environment. https://sci.esa.int/documents/34530/36042/1...rials_Doyle.pdf is a quick introduction to this and other effects in the context of Jupiter missions. Junocam was designed with rad-hard glass* types in the front half of the lens and normal glasses farther back, shielded by the front half and also by a large cylinder of titanium. Of course, we were only required to last for 8 orbits, so for radiation effects to still be so subtle as to be debatable this late into the mission speaks to the conservatism of our approach. One could have expected the blue channel to be completely gone by this time otherwise. It's possible that the annealing recovered some glass transmission that might have been lost, since the heater is attached to the optics and the optics thus warmer than the electronics we were trying to fix. *I often refer to rad-hard glasses, only somewhat humorously, as "pre-darkened" -- they typically have poorer blue transmission on day 1 than their normal equivalents. -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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mcaplinger Juno Perijove 58 Jan 4 2024, 05:21 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jan 4 2024, 09:09 AM... Jan 4 2024, 06:33 PM
StargazeInWonder I guess to put this imagery to a rubber-meets-the-... Jan 4 2024, 07:03 PM
Bjorn Jonsson From the PJ57 thread:
QUOTE (volcanopele @ J... Jan 5 2024, 01:03 AM
Brian Swift QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Jan 4 2024, 05:03 ... Jan 5 2024, 03:20 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Jan 4 2024, 05:03 ... Jan 5 2024, 03:45 AM
kymani76
Map for PJ58 Io flyby from SPK. Ground track cove... Jan 5 2024, 11:18 AM
MarcF I expect to see some beautiful images of Ra patera... Jan 5 2024, 05:01 PM
mcaplinger My initial cut at PJ58 image timing for Io is:
20... Jan 9 2024, 12:15 AM
kymani76
I updated the flyby map with new information abov... Jan 9 2024, 10:00 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (kymani76 @ Jan 9 2024, 02:00 AM) I... Jan 9 2024, 04:49 PM
volcanopele A pretty decent set of observations. I might repla... Jan 9 2024, 06:19 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jan 9 2024, 10:19 AM... Jan 9 2024, 07:00 PM
kymani76
I made another visualisation of the flyby, includ... Jan 10 2024, 08:44 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (kymani76 @ Jan 10 2024, 12:44 AM) ... Jan 10 2024, 05:10 PM
volcanopele for 17:49 this is what I get:
This does add cov... Jan 10 2024, 05:35 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jan 10 2024, 09:35 A... Jan 10 2024, 06:36 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jan 10 2024, 09:35 A... Jan 11 2024, 05:10 PM
volcanopele I presumed that if the third block of four gets sh... Jan 10 2024, 10:22 PM
volcanopele 17:49:30 still has Masubi in the FOV but it is muc... Jan 11 2024, 06:54 PM
mcaplinger Have you compared the amount of Jupitershine in th... Jan 11 2024, 07:20 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Jan 11 2024, 11:20 AM... Jan 11 2024, 10:15 PM
volcanopele comparing 55C00035 with 57C00030 and 57C00022, I g... Jan 11 2024, 08:49 PM
kymani76
I'm not totally sure, but I believe it is po... Jan 12 2024, 10:09 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (kymani76 @ Jan 12 2024, 02:09 PM) ... Jan 12 2024, 10:24 PM
volcanopele Even for my simulations, I account for the JunoCam... Jan 15 2024, 07:22 PM
mcaplinger For posterity, Jason's last message arrived to... Jan 16 2024, 08:47 PM
kymani76
I made some progress querying SPICE. Here is what... Jan 18 2024, 08:18 PM
volcanopele With the timings and TDI settings Mike provided ab... Jan 23 2024, 07:55 PM
john_s Thanks! How will the resolution on Loki compa... Jan 23 2024, 10:31 PM
volcanopele The resolution will roughly match JNCE_2023364_57C... Jan 23 2024, 10:53 PM
mcaplinger Apparently there is going to be a live event with ... Feb 2 2024, 10:01 PM
volcanopele Thanks for the heads up Mike. I did let me D&D... Feb 3 2024, 04:35 PM
volcanopele Full images aren't up yet, but the green filte... Feb 4 2024, 04:38 AM
StargazeInWonder Here's an effort to align the Loki imagery in ... Feb 4 2024, 06:23 AM
volcanopele BTW, not the first time we’ve seen specular ... Feb 4 2024, 06:37 AM
Bjorn Jonsson Wow! This is a beautiful image of Loki, far mo... Feb 4 2024, 01:32 PM
john_s New Horizons also got a nice view of strong specul... Feb 4 2024, 06:09 PM
mcaplinger Io images are up on missionjuno now. https://www.... Feb 4 2024, 11:05 PM
volcanopele First pair of images complete:
Feb 4 2024, 11:06 PM
StargazeInWonder Wow, the specular effects at Loki vary tremendousl... Feb 4 2024, 11:57 PM
Brian Swift PJ58_24 closest approach image from 1499.3 km alti... Feb 4 2024, 11:38 PM
volcanopele
First attempt at the second Jupiter shine image.... Feb 5 2024, 12:13 AM
Brian Swift PJ58_25, altitude 2493.8 km, Jupiter-shine illumin... Feb 5 2024, 12:25 AM
Brian Swift PJ58_25 again, stretched, to bring out hint of plu... Feb 5 2024, 12:27 AM
volcanopele Looks like Masubi lives! Feb 5 2024, 01:45 AM
Bjorn Jonsson These images are awesome. They must be by far the ... Feb 5 2024, 03:18 AM
volcanopele
Improved versions using a global control network Feb 5 2024, 05:47 AM
Daniele_bianchino_Italy sorry if the question has already been posted,
Wh... Feb 5 2024, 08:46 AM
StargazeInWonder According to previous temperature measurements, th... Feb 5 2024, 09:59 AM
john_s Yes, wonderful images. It's interesting that ... Feb 5 2024, 03:20 PM
ngunn Wonderful images of a wonderful world. Thanks to ... Feb 5 2024, 04:25 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (ngunn @ Feb 5 2024, 08:25 AM) Jaso... Feb 5 2024, 05:06 PM
volcanopele Just two different methods of processing the data.... Feb 5 2024, 09:04 PM
Bjorn Jonsson A map-projected comparison of images PJ57_24 and P... Feb 5 2024, 10:20 PM
antipode Has anyone managed to actually spot an impact crat... Feb 6 2024, 03:42 AM
Phil Stooke We just recently had a first suggestion of an impa... Feb 6 2024, 03:58 AM
StargazeInWonder "Twenty-kilometer diameter craters are made b... Feb 6 2024, 05:57 PM
Brian Swift PJ58_23 with plume. Jupiter-shine illuminated.
Feb 6 2024, 06:47 AM
tau A further processing of volcanopele's image of... Feb 8 2024, 07:34 AM
kymani76
Here's my version of performing upscale and P... Feb 8 2024, 11:54 PM
tau Brian Swift's image from post #44 of Jupiter-s... Feb 13 2024, 02:59 PM
Holder of the Two Leashes Wen JIRAM images? Feb 13 2024, 06:18 PM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Holder of the Two Leashes @ Feb 13 202... Feb 13 2024, 06:49 PM
volcanopele The PDS release calendar is here: https://pds.nasa... Feb 14 2024, 04:46 PM
Bjorn Jonsson This is an animation showing a simulation of Io... Feb 20 2024, 12:14 AM
Antdoghalo Do we have the SRU images Juno took of Io during t... Jul 14 2024, 02:12 AM
mcaplinger QUOTE (Antdoghalo @ Jul 13 2024, 07:12 PM... Jul 14 2024, 07:13 PM
Antdoghalo Darn! Just before Io! Jul 19 2024, 01:24 AM
volcanopele My JIRAM hot spot spreadsheet says the PDS release... Jul 19 2024, 02:44 PM
Antdoghalo QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jul 19 2024, 09:44 A... Jul 20 2024, 12:11 AM
Antdoghalo When I mapped the Europa SRU image, I was very sur... Jul 19 2024, 05:07 PM
volcanopele The Europa encounter was also 5 times closer so th... Jul 19 2024, 05:38 PM
volcanopele I'll do my best. As I found with PJ55, the clo... Jul 20 2024, 01:54 AM![]() ![]() |
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