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Erebus/victoria Entry & Exploration, Would it be worth it?

odave View Member Profile	Apr 19 2005, 04:57 PM Post #1
Member Group: Members Posts: 510 Joined: 17-March 05 From: Southeast Michigan Member No.: 209	Last year, MER team decided to let Oppy go into Endurance because the value of the potential science gain outweighed the risks to the rover at that time. I remember Steve Squyres saying something like...if Oppy can't get back out, it would be like getting locked in a candy store. I wonder if the same would be true when we get to Erebus and Victoria. If these craters show something significantly different than we've already seen, and there's a feasible entry/exit route, would they still risk sending Oppy in? If it were me, given the 18 month extended mission and the rover showing its age more and more, any target in Erebus or Victora would need to be very juicy. Then again, there's no guarantee that Oppy will live for the entire extension. Hmmm...depending on what we find when we get there, it could be a hard decision for the team to make! -------------------- --O'Dave

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odave Erebus/victoria Entry & Exploration Apr 19 2005, 04:57 PM

dot.dk First of all I don't think you can go into Ere... Apr 19 2005, 05:12 PM

CosmicRocker From the orbiter images, it appears they would not... Apr 20 2005, 03:28 AM

wyogold I say go in Victoria if there is good science ther... Apr 21 2005, 03:02 AM

chokai QUOTE (wyogold @ Apr 20 2005, 07:02 PM)I say ... Apr 21 2005, 05:15 AM

AndyG QUOTE (chokai @ Apr 21 2005, 05:15 AM)If Vict... Apr 21 2005, 08:48 AM

djellison Yup - down the entry ramp at B would make sense to... Apr 21 2005, 09:09 AM

TheChemist My impression from the Victoria image is that even... Apr 21 2005, 02:10 PM

djellison If they were prepared to enter Endurance with no g... Apr 21 2005, 02:19 PM

babakm A is the entry point. B & C are bounce marks ... Apr 21 2005, 03:01 PM

ilbasso For me, the question is: given Oppy's age and ... Apr 21 2005, 08:03 PM

AndyG QUOTE (ilbasso @ Apr 21 2005, 08:03 PM)For me... Apr 22 2005, 09:30 AM

djellison A lap around Victoria? That would be something lik... Apr 21 2005, 08:58 PM

Sunspot A little more info from Steve Squyres: http://athe... Apr 25 2005, 12:55 AM

edstrick Looking at the highest resolution MOC pic<s... Apr 25 2005, 05:36 AM

Sunspot I think we're getting a little ahead of oursel... Apr 25 2005, 08:30 AM

Jeff7 QUOTE (Sunspot @ Apr 25 2005, 04:30 AM)I thin... Apr 25 2005, 02:02 PM

odave QUOTE (Sunspot @ Apr 25 2005, 04:30 AM)I thin... Apr 25 2005, 02:34 PM

Nix If it would be of any help I have made an overview... Apr 25 2005, 03:02 PM

odave QUOTE (NIX @ Apr 25 2005, 11:02 AM)If it woul... Apr 25 2005, 03:31 PM

djellison http://moc.rlproject.com/end_vic_4m.jpg goes some... Apr 25 2005, 03:32 PM

gregp1962 I wonder what's going on on Mars. Squires gave... Apr 25 2005, 04:02 PM

Sunspot They're taking lots of pictures with pancam of... Apr 25 2005, 04:15 PM

Pando QUOTE (Sunspot @ Apr 25 2005, 09:15 AM)No ide... Apr 25 2005, 08:33 PM

Sunspot QUOTE (Pando @ Apr 25 2005, 09:33 PM)Oppy is ... Apr 25 2005, 09:24 PM

odave QUOTE (Sunspot @ Apr 25 2005, 05:24 PM)QUOTE ... Apr 25 2005, 11:52 PM

Sunspot Things sure have got quiet around here since the e... Apr 25 2005, 07:50 PM

dot.dk Oppy where are you!??? Haven't seen an... Apr 25 2005, 08:35 PM

gregp1962 It would take NOTHING for someone at JPL to post a... Apr 26 2005, 03:56 AM

djellison QUOTE (gregp1962 @ Apr 26 2005, 03:56 AM)It w... Apr 26 2005, 07:51 AM

Nirgal QUOTE Oppy is moving south, slowly but surely. The... Apr 26 2005, 09:27 AM

Phil Stooke It's simply not true that "it would take ... Apr 26 2005, 11:14 AM

Sunspot Picture update at JPL, 538 new pictures: http://ma... Apr 26 2005, 11:41 AM

gregp1962 I'm a slow typist. It takes me a few minutes t... Apr 26 2005, 02:14 PM

Pando There are many paragraphs written PER DAY document... Apr 26 2005, 05:44 PM

OWW New update from Squyres on the athena website. Opp... Apr 26 2005, 10:12 PM

dot.dk Damn! Hope he is right about it not being... Apr 26 2005, 10:28 PM

Sunspot Yikes.....I don't think i've seen the whee... Apr 26 2005, 11:22 PM

dot.dk Let us all pray this is not gonna be Oppys final r... Apr 26 2005, 11:56 PM

Sunspot QUOTE (dot.dk @ Apr 27 2005, 12:56 AM)Let us ... Apr 27 2005, 12:05 AM

dot.dk Funny thing is that it was able to plow that much ... Apr 27 2005, 12:37 AM

Gray Pando, Thanks for the dose of reality. Apr 27 2005, 12:57 AM

Nirgal oh, oh .... that's going to be tough with onl... Apr 27 2005, 02:27 AM

Bill Harris RE: images in Reply#37. Interesting how the soil ... Apr 27 2005, 03:57 AM

dot.dk QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Apr 27 2005, 03:57 AM)Wh... Apr 27 2005, 04:15 AM

CosmicRocker Oh, wow. This doesn't bode well for Opportuni... Apr 27 2005, 04:43 AM

jaredGalen At least the rear right wheel (or seeing as they w... Apr 27 2005, 08:47 AM

Marcel QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Apr 27 2005, 04:43 AM)S... Apr 27 2005, 11:10 AM

Bubbinski Squyres' status report for April 17 says that ... Apr 27 2005, 04:56 AM

CosmicRocker On a different note, it appears that Opportunity h... Apr 27 2005, 05:04 AM

Vladimorka QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Apr 27 2005, 08:04 AM)O... Apr 27 2005, 07:02 AM

Analyst I am not concerned. The rover has the capability t... Apr 27 2005, 06:24 AM

Marcel QUOTE (Analyst @ Apr 27 2005, 06:24 AM)I am n... Apr 27 2005, 08:38 AM

Sunspot Yes, it looks like it was driving just fine until ... Apr 27 2005, 08:41 AM

djellison Even blind drives still have built in high water m... Apr 27 2005, 11:18 AM

tedstryk How many dunes, must Oppy sail / Before it sleeps ... Apr 27 2005, 11:37 AM

Marcel QUOTE (djellison @ Apr 27 2005, 11:18 AM)Even... Apr 27 2005, 12:01 PM

Marslauncher I just wanted to have a crack at this.... ARB/ACM... Apr 27 2005, 12:29 PM

Tman An overview around the bad place (Navcam): (400K... Apr 27 2005, 12:57 PM

Chmee So where are those tire chains when we need them? ... Apr 27 2005, 02:13 PM

Marcel QUOTE (Chmee @ Apr 27 2005, 02:13 PM)So where... Apr 27 2005, 02:16 PM

Sunspot QUOTE (Chmee @ Apr 27 2005, 03:13 PM)Just a r... Apr 27 2005, 03:33 PM

Chmee You can see in this Navcam pic that as soon as Opp... Apr 27 2005, 02:18 PM

Marcel QUOTE (Chmee @ Apr 27 2005, 02:18 PM)You can ... Apr 27 2005, 03:13 PM

Nirgal QUOTE Just a real crazy thought but if they were s... Apr 27 2005, 03:13 PM

djellison The arm was built to carry the instruments, and th... Apr 27 2005, 03:51 PM

David QUOTE (djellison @ Apr 27 2005, 03:51 PM)It... Apr 27 2005, 04:17 PM

lyford QUOTE (David @ Apr 27 2005, 08:17 AM)Then wha... Apr 27 2005, 05:43 PM

Sunspot QUOTE (lyford @ Apr 27 2005, 06:43 PM)It does... Apr 27 2005, 05:52 PM

lyford QUOTE (Sunspot @ Apr 27 2005, 09:52 AM)QUOTE ... Apr 27 2005, 07:18 PM

V.B. It seems strange to me that rear wheels are turned... Apr 27 2005, 10:10 PM

mars_armer QUOTE (djellison @ Apr 27 2005, 03:51 PM)The ... Apr 27 2005, 06:02 PM

Chmee QUOTE (mars_armer @ Apr 27 2005, 02:02 PM)QUO... Apr 27 2005, 07:34 PM

AndyG QUOTE (mars_armer @ Apr 27 2005, 06:02 PM)If ... Apr 28 2005, 08:40 AM

djellison I'd suggest running between dunes as much as p... Apr 27 2005, 04:19 PM

ilbasso We had the deus ex machina dust devil cleaning eve... Apr 27 2005, 05:50 PM

Reckless QUOTE (ilbasso @ Apr 27 2005, 06:50 PM)We had... Apr 27 2005, 06:33 PM

Pando QUOTE (Reckless @ Apr 27 2005, 11:33 AM)If op... Apr 27 2005, 07:25 PM

Phil Stooke This is Tman's pan in a polar projection. Vik... Apr 27 2005, 06:09 PM

Jeff7 Maneuvering accurately between so many ripples is ... Apr 27 2005, 06:12 PM

gregp1962 Time for a tire change. http://www.rccrazy.com/im... Apr 27 2005, 06:55 PM

Chmee quote=gregp1962,Apr 27 2005, 02:55 PM]Time for a t... Apr 27 2005, 07:41 PM

djellison Tank Tracks would be a nightmare - stuck on rocks,... Apr 27 2005, 07:49 PM

BruceMoomaw NASA went with the 6-wheel Rocker-Bogie design for... Apr 27 2005, 08:34 PM

BruceMoomaw Make that "the official design for GROUND-CRA... Apr 27 2005, 08:37 PM

djellison The wheels will be pointing in funny directions be... Apr 27 2005, 10:34 PM

Edward Schmitz http://athena1.cornell.edu/news/mubss/ Steve does... Apr 27 2005, 10:56 PM

Sunspot The strange thing about this is that when Opportun... Apr 28 2005, 12:34 AM

Nirgal if we ever get out of this ... I hope that the pl... Apr 28 2005, 01:20 AM

Vladimorka What about RATting the soil just in front of the f... Apr 28 2005, 08:48 AM

Tman The left track of Oppy at the beginning of digging... Apr 28 2005, 08:54 AM

djellison IDD couldnt can only reach the area between the tw... Apr 28 2005, 09:02 AM

paxdan QUOTE (djellison @ Apr 28 2005, 10:02 AM)IDD ... Apr 28 2005, 10:25 AM

djellison Making a 10kg rover tilt ever so slighlty when pre... Apr 28 2005, 10:40 AM

paxdan QUOTE (djellison @ Apr 28 2005, 11:40 AM)Maki... Apr 28 2005, 12:33 PM

Marcel QUOTE (paxdan @ Apr 28 2005, 12:33 PM)QUOTE (... Apr 28 2005, 01:07 PM

Marcel Oh my ... http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opport... Apr 28 2005, 01:43 PM

tuomio This is very dangerous situation. You can see that... Apr 28 2005, 01:49 PM

Marcel QUOTE (tuomio @ Apr 28 2005, 01:49 PM)This is... Apr 28 2005, 02:09 PM

mars_armer QUOTE (Marcel @ Apr 28 2005, 02:09 PM)... As ... Apr 28 2005, 02:17 PM

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