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Sol 454 - Larry And Methuselah
djellison
post Apr 20 2005, 11:37 AM
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Larry is the outcropping to the right - Methuselah is the layered rock on the left.

As an interesting point to judge distances - assuming zero slip the marks made by the hold-down-brackets on the wheel tread are 80cm apart - or about 2ft 7inches

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post Apr 26 2005, 12:37 PM
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It could be a deposit by a single event. And what we see now is only weathered by wind that forms such layer-like appearance. Anyway the composition seems to be aggregated.


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post Apr 27 2005, 06:23 AM
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QUOTE (Tman @ Apr 26 2005, 05:37 AM)
It could be a deposit by a single event. And what we see now is only weathered by wind that forms such layer-like appearance. Anyway the composition seems to be aggregated.
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Without actual layers, there is no way that the wind can etch pseudo layers. There has to be hardness differences to allow uneven erosion to occur. If there are hardness differences that are aligned along parallel planes, then you have layers by definition.
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post Apr 27 2005, 03:02 PM
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QUOTE (Edward Schmitz @ Apr 27 2005, 06:23 AM)
Without actual layers, there is no way that the wind can etch pseudo layers.  There has to be hardness differences to allow uneven erosion to occur.  If there are hardness differences that are aligned along parallel planes, then you have layers by definition.
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True, except that if you have a rock with random variations in hardness, e.g. a volcanic ash containing various-sized chunks of broken-up rock, and you then erode it by wind, you'll get aligned tails of protected soft material extending downwind behind the hard chunks, giving the impression of layering. I think this is at least part of what's happening at Methuselah, as in this area. There are probably real layers too, but I think the wind erosion helps make the layers look finer-scale than they really are, particularly as the wind happens to be roughly parallel to the bedding.

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- djellison   Sol 454 - Larry And Methuselah   Apr 20 2005, 11:37 AM
- - tty   QUOTE (djellison @ Apr 20 2005, 01:37 PM) ht...   Apr 20 2005, 04:52 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (tty @ Apr 20 2005, 11:52 AM)The layers...   Apr 20 2005, 05:54 PM
|- - dvandorn   Another thing to consider in re these beds of sedi...   Apr 20 2005, 06:23 PM
|- - Marcel   "What's exciting is that Spirit has *fina...   Apr 21 2005, 08:39 AM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (Marcel @ Apr 21 2005, 03:39 AM)"W...   Apr 21 2005, 08:49 AM
|- - SFJCody   Is it me, or is there a significant change in soil...   Apr 21 2005, 03:02 PM
- - Gray   Possibly tectonics, or Larry and Methuselah might ...   Apr 20 2005, 05:53 PM
- - Sunspot   Is there a problem with the exploratorium website?...   Apr 20 2005, 10:49 PM
- - djellison   Wow - yeah - an excellent drive imho - Meth and LL...   Apr 20 2005, 10:51 PM
|- - Mode5   Surfs up! Thanks for the analysis on this a...   Apr 21 2005, 07:38 AM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (Mode5 @ Apr 21 2005, 02:38 AM)Surfs up...   Apr 21 2005, 08:18 AM
- - djellison   LOL - the JPL PAO playing catch up http://marsr...   Apr 21 2005, 07:40 AM
- - aldo12xu   http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all...GEP06...   Apr 21 2005, 04:31 PM
- - Edward Schmitz   Good discussion. Let me jump in here. There are ...   Apr 21 2005, 04:43 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (Edward Schmitz @ Apr 21 2005, 11:43 AM...   Apr 21 2005, 06:52 PM
|- - Edward Schmitz   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Apr 21 2005, 11:52 AM)In re...   Apr 21 2005, 10:56 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (Edward Schmitz @ Apr 21 2005, 05:56 PM...   Apr 22 2005, 06:22 AM
- - Edward Schmitz   I was just noticing in this image of the Columbia ...   Apr 21 2005, 11:06 PM
- - Bill Harris   QUOTE Here is a great example of a thrust fault in...   Apr 21 2005, 11:21 PM
- - djellison   We need netlander Doug   Apr 21 2005, 11:26 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (djellison @ Apr 21 2005, 06:26 PM)We n...   Apr 22 2005, 06:25 AM
- - TheChemist   Exploratorium is still dead, but at last JPL updat...   Apr 25 2005, 02:30 PM
|- - arccos   Uuuh. This looks pretty Opportunity-like to me...   Apr 26 2005, 06:36 AM
|- - dvandorn   It looks like fine-grained sedimentary rock that...   Apr 26 2005, 07:40 AM
- - tty   Cross-bedding is actually more typical of aeolian ...   Apr 26 2005, 10:16 AM
- - Tman   It could be a deposit by a single event. And what ...   Apr 26 2005, 12:37 PM
|- - Edward Schmitz   QUOTE (Tman @ Apr 26 2005, 05:37 AM)It could ...   Apr 27 2005, 06:23 AM
|- - john_s   QUOTE (Edward Schmitz @ Apr 27 2005, 06:23 AM...   Apr 27 2005, 03:02 PM
- - glennwsmith   Gentlemen, It seems that interest in the stratigr...   Apr 27 2005, 02:45 AM


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