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Apr 21 2005, 08:07 PM
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Have any of the serious experts on this board ever sorted out any 1960s images? I'm thinking of the Surveyor panoramas (in the 60s they did it with photos pasted onto the inside of half-spheres!) and the way that the exposure dropped off toward one corner, making a horrible patchwork effect. Or them lines and spots on the Lunar Orbiter images...
Most of the NASA mission data should be available as digital source material, and thus could be manipulated, though I suspect that getting anything 'real' from Soviet missions would be a bit of a chase! Any thoughts? -------------------- Remember: Time Flies like the wind - but Fruit Flies like bananas!
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Apr 21 2005, 08:43 PM
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What a coincidence that you should ask this question! As it happens, lots of things are happenning here. I assume people know about:
http://cps.earth.northwestern.edu/LO/index.html and http://astrogeology.usgs.gov/Projects/Luna...erDigitization/ and http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/mapcatalog/ and http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/lunar_atlases/ (Lunar Orbiter images, plus some maps and Apollo stuff - browse and full res) For Surveyor, the images were horrible, as you say. As far as I know nobody has ever been foolish enough to try to do anything with the full panoramas... until now. I scanned assembled pans at LPI in Houston, USGS in Flagstaff and LPL in Tucson. I am painstakingly fixing all the problems to create large (10000 to 15000 pixel wide) digital pans for each site. Surveyors 1, 3 and 7 are done, 5 is half done, six next year. This is a job that would drive you nuts if you were not already so challenged, so I only do one a year. This is being done for my International Atlas of Lunar Exploration, to be published in 2007. The atlas also covers all lunar missions including Soviet ones (e.g. maps of photo coverage from orbiters, day by day lunokhod route maps), and site selection for ranger, surveyor and apollo (the latter a fully illustrated account from the minutes of the meetings). So lots of things are being done. Phil Stooke -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Apr 21 2005, 08:53 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2488 Joined: 17-April 05 From: Glasgow, Scotland, UK Member No.: 239 |
Phil:
Terrific! I don't suppose there are any sample images available? I'm thinking Surveyor VII in particular (as if you hadn't guessed!). -------------------- Remember: Time Flies like the wind - but Fruit Flies like bananas!
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Apr 22 2005, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Apr 21 2005, 03:53 PM) Phil: Terrific! I don't suppose there are any sample images available? I'm thinking Surveyor VII in particular (as if you hadn't guessed!). You and me both! I'd dearly like to see the Tycho rim where the horrible joins between the frames don't dominate. I daresay it might be the most fascinating and beautiful lunar vista ever captured by cameras -- I can't wait to see Phil's work! -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Bob Shaw Ranger, Surveyor, Luna, Luna Orbiter Apr 21 2005, 08:07 PM
Phil Stooke I will post some Surveyor stuff when I have time. ... Apr 22 2005, 03:50 PM
Bob Shaw Phil:
Very, very interesting - and the 'work ... Apr 22 2005, 07:28 PM
Phil Stooke No! I have to leave something for other folks... Apr 22 2005, 08:27 PM
ilbasso Absolutely brilliant work, Phil! I'll be ... Apr 22 2005, 09:45 PM
4th rock from the sun Very good Phil!!!
Can you tell us the... Apr 22 2005, 11:35 PM
Phil Stooke The Surveyor pans are 360 wide, though a hardware ... Apr 23 2005, 01:38 PM
Phil Stooke The Surveyor pans are 360 wide, though a hardware ... Apr 23 2005, 01:40 PM
BruceMoomaw As I understand it, another factor behind not usin... Apr 23 2005, 03:25 PM
Phil Stooke Bruce, the main purpose of the descent camera, of ... Apr 23 2005, 04:08 PM
ilbasso As for fascinating and beautiful vistas, I also ha... Apr 23 2005, 07:28 PM
edstrick Surveyor 1 was not expected to land. The prefligh... Apr 23 2005, 08:50 PM
Bob Shaw It was the Surveyor I landing which hooked me for ... Apr 23 2005, 09:10 PM
tedstryk I imagine some 3-D data could be reconstructed for... Apr 24 2005, 12:17 AM
BruceMoomaw Space History Geek Time:
(1) Phil Stooke has got... Apr 24 2005, 12:44 AM
dvandorn QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Apr 23 2005, 07:44 PM)(3... Apr 24 2005, 06:57 AM
Phil Stooke It would not be possible to locate Surveyor 4 with... Apr 24 2005, 03:36 AM
edstrick Good additional info there. I'm pretty sure I... Apr 24 2005, 08:07 AM
gndonald QUOTE (edstrick @ Apr 24 2005, 04:07 PM) ... Nov 5 2006, 09:04 AM
BruceMoomaw Yep -- I first ran across that series in 1971 at t... Apr 24 2005, 09:37 AM
edstrick Interesting!....
The Surveyor cameras were an... Apr 24 2005, 09:45 AM
BruceMoomaw QUOTE (edstrick @ Apr 24 2005, 08:07 AM)Good ... Apr 24 2005, 09:59 AM
BruceMoomaw By the way, that JPL series on their projects (sev... Apr 24 2005, 10:01 AM
edstrick Ah!... an article from Aviation "Leak... Apr 24 2005, 11:07 AM
PhilHorzempa [size=2]
To continue this discussion of Sur... Apr 24 2006, 09:05 PM
Bob Shaw Another Phil:
Yes; that's how the samples wer... Apr 24 2006, 09:42 PM
BruceMoomaw I've got quite a bit more in the way of detail... Apr 24 2006, 10:52 PM
edstrick One other distinction I remember reading about the... Apr 25 2006, 05:15 AM
Bob Shaw Bruce:
Last year you mentioned, more or less in p... Apr 25 2006, 03:16 PM
BruceMoomaw I didn't know that. It is a fact, though, tha... Apr 25 2006, 05:54 AM
edstrick I could be wrong on that.. I'm working from fa... Apr 25 2006, 10:47 AM
BruceMoomaw It was an Aviation Week issue all the way back fro... Apr 25 2006, 09:42 PM
Bob Shaw Bruce:
Thanks! Sometime soon I hope to have m... Apr 25 2006, 10:03 PM
BruceMoomaw While I'm at the library (whenever I do finall... Apr 25 2006, 10:54 PM
PhilHorzempa I want to comment on a memo that I saw in the NASA... May 1 2006, 03:08 AM
dvandorn Well... all I can tell you is that I've proba... May 1 2006, 04:09 AM
BruceMoomaw Gadfry! That's a completely new one on me... May 1 2006, 08:52 AM
ljk4-1 For those of you who may be in the Washington, D.C... May 1 2006, 02:35 PM
PhilHorzempa Concerning the plan for the LMSS, I may have a pho... May 1 2006, 08:52 PM
PhilCo126 Spacecraftfilms.com is planning a DVD-set of ... May 4 2006, 08:20 AM
ljk4-1 There was an earlier request for an image of the o... May 19 2006, 04:27 PM
BruceMoomaw That drawing of Surveyor in a 1962 issue of ... May 20 2006, 04:16 PM
PhilHorzempa I've been thinking lately that it would be nea... May 26 2006, 03:43 AM
ljk4-1 Fortieth anniversary time of the launch and landin... Jun 1 2006, 04:22 AM
ljk4-1 Mike Dinn, who in 1966 worked on the Surveyor 1 mi... Jun 1 2006, 01:44 PM
Bob Shaw QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jun 1 2006, 02:44 PM... Jun 1 2006, 01:52 PM
edstrick Block 4 was to include more block 2 type retro-roc... Nov 6 2006, 10:51 AM
gndonald QUOTE (edstrick @ Nov 6 2006, 06:51 PM) B... Nov 8 2006, 02:32 PM
Phil Stooke According to:
http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4210/pag... Nov 8 2006, 04:22 PM
dvandorn There were two reasons why the Ranger series was a... Nov 9 2006, 12:03 AM![]() ![]() |
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