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Apr 21 2005, 11:26 PM
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May 11 2005, 03:32 AM
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It's show and tell time.. I guess. Here's another new version of some historic images...
It's a polar projection of one of the Apollo 17 Station 6 panoramas taken at Split Rock on the slope of North Massif. The astronaut is at the center, standing on the rim of a small crater west of the rock. The rover and the other astronaut (Schmitt, I think, I don't have my notes with me) are downhill from the center of the scene. The reprojection exaggerates horizon topography in a rather bizarre way, but this is really intended for mapping in the vicinity of the science station. Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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May 12 2005, 10:57 PM
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![]() IMG to PNG GOD ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 2257 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Near fire and ice Member No.: 38 |
This is extremely impressive, IMHO especially peter59's work with the Mariner 6 & 7 images.
I have also been processing some old images, mainly from the Voyagers: http://www.mmedia.is/bjj/images/ I have more that I'll put online someday. I have also scanned all Pioneer 10 & 11 images I could find. Many of these I have not seen online. I will probably add these to my website one day but I would just love to have these in digital form instead of scanned. Modern computers and software can do miracles, what I've seen here is much better than NASA's processing a few decades (!) ago. I also recently downloaded all of the Mariner 10 images and have been playing with them. BTW are the earlier Mariner (4, 6 and 7) imaging datasets not available online - only on CDs ? |
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May 14 2005, 09:42 PM
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![]() Interplanetary Dumpster Diver ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 4408 Joined: 17-February 04 From: Powell, TN Member No.: 33 |
QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ May 12 2005, 10:57 PM) This is extremely impressive, IMHO especially peter59's work with the Mariner 6 & 7 images. I have also been processing some old images, mainly from the Voyagers: http://www.mmedia.is/bjj/images/ I have more that I'll put online someday. I have also scanned all Pioneer 10 & 11 images I could find. Many of these I have not seen online. I will probably add these to my website one day but I would just love to have these in digital form instead of scanned. Modern computers and software can do miracles, what I've seen here is much better than NASA's processing a few decades (!) ago. I also recently downloaded all of the Mariner 10 images and have been playing with them. BTW are the earlier Mariner (4, 6 and 7) imaging datasets not available online - only on CDs ? I have two projects of my own underway. First, I have some Surveyor 7 stuff that I am scanning that I intend to process. Secondly, I have some digital data for two or three Pioneer images from Saturn (I say two or three because there is one shot that may be a fragment of one of the other two - I need to check carefully). The problem is that it is in paper form, so this will take a lot of work. -------------------- |
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May 17 2005, 03:27 AM
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May 17 2005, 06:29 AM
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QUOTE (GregM @ May 16 2005, 10:27 PM) <snip> I have always felt that Pioneer 10 & 11 never has recieved the attention or accolades that they deserved. The first spacecraft to Jupiter and Saturn for heaven's sakes! Part of the reason for that was that the imaging was very tricky, and never really processed very well compared with what could be done with today's technology. The problem was more that the imagery was crude and nearly an afterthought -- it was crude by the standards of the time in which it was built. The Pioneers were limited in that they were primarily fields-and-particles sensors. The magnetometers, especially, worked a lot better on a spinning spacecraft. And it's really tricky to develop a stationary, pointable scan platform on a spinning spacecraft. The Voyagers managed it, but they're bigger, better spacecraft than the earlier Pioneers. So, since it was just cost- and weight-prohibitive to equip Pioneer with a stationary scan platform, the best they could do to provide imagery was to place a photometer on it and have the Pioneer's own spin scan the photometer through its field of view, one line per rev. The photometer was "nodded" on each scan to get an adjacent line. That kind of imaging is rather inherently crude and low-resolution. It needed an awful lot of correction, because of precession of the spacecraft spin and the distance the spacecraft traveled relative to its target during the time it took to build up a single image. But it was a HECK of a lot better than nothing! -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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GregM Reprocessing Historical Images Apr 21 2005, 11:26 PM
Gsnorgathon I have to admit I'm a real sucker for those ... Apr 22 2005, 08:05 AM
OWW Cool Mariner 4/6/7 ( and more ) stuff:
http://memb... Apr 22 2005, 08:16 AM
4th rock from the sun The problem is having the original datasets for th... Apr 22 2005, 12:14 PM
GregM . Apr 22 2005, 04:01 PM
tedstryk Don Mitchell has gotten ahold of the original Vene... Apr 22 2005, 04:24 PM
gpurcell QUOTE (GregM @ Apr 22 2005, 04:01 PM)QUOTE (4... Apr 22 2005, 06:55 PM
tedstryk In the case of the Venera data, that is a Russian ... Apr 22 2005, 08:02 PM
deglr6328 QUOTE (tedstryk @ Apr 22 2005, 08:02 PM)In th... Apr 22 2005, 11:56 PM
tedstryk I have not come across original Pioneer image data... Apr 23 2005, 03:04 AM
GregM . Apr 23 2005, 04:28 AM
edstrick The digital data for the final versions of <mos... Apr 23 2005, 09:25 AM
4th rock from the sun QUOTE ...
Note that the mariner 4 images were tak... Apr 25 2005, 11:29 PM
edstrick Mariner 6 and 7 returned two "primary" i... Apr 23 2005, 09:50 AM
tedstryk The reason so much of Mariner 6/7 imagery was sent... Apr 23 2005, 12:24 PM
Bob Shaw Somewhere in my box of space slides from the 1970s... Apr 23 2005, 12:37 PM

tedstryk QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Apr 23 2005, 12:37 PM)Somew... Apr 23 2005, 12:49 PM

Bob Shaw Yup, that's the chappie!
And my memory is... Apr 23 2005, 09:13 PM
peter59 QUOTE (edstrick @ Apr 23 2005, 09:50 AM)Marin... Apr 24 2005, 06:39 AM
edstrick Mariner Mars 1971 was to be a two spacecraft missi... Apr 23 2005, 10:14 AM
deglr6328 I am so consistently dumbfounded at the amazing de... Apr 23 2005, 05:50 PM
edstrick To chase down the history and existance of the Pio... Apr 23 2005, 08:28 PM
tedstryk QUOTE (edstrick @ Apr 23 2005, 08:28 PM)To ch... Apr 24 2005, 03:08 AM
TheChemist peter59,
thanks for providing the link to your won... Apr 24 2005, 08:24 AM
edstrick One annoying problem with the radiometrically corr... Apr 24 2005, 09:39 AM
GregM . Apr 27 2005, 01:55 AM
edstrick GregM and 4'th Rock are certainly on the right... Apr 27 2005, 10:49 AM
tedstryk Speaking of historical images, this is some work I... May 9 2005, 04:16 AM
JRehling QUOTE (GregM @ May 16 2005, 08:27 PM)That... May 17 2005, 03:24 PM
Phil Stooke I promised earlier that I would post something fro... May 17 2005, 01:26 PM
tedstryk Phil, I am nowhere near trumping you. It will be ... May 17 2005, 07:38 PM
Bob Shaw Phil:
Very, very nice!
Now, the $64,000... May 17 2005, 07:39 PM

dvandorn QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ May 17 2005, 02:39 PM)Phil:... May 17 2005, 08:01 PM
dvandorn QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ May 17 2005, 08:26 AM)I ... May 17 2005, 07:41 PM
BruceMoomaw If I remember correctly, Voyager 2 also got some b... May 17 2005, 06:32 PM
Phil Stooke The detail looks west and north, and the full pan ... May 17 2005, 08:05 PM
Bob Shaw Thanks, guys! May 17 2005, 09:02 PM
tedstryk QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ May 17 2005, 08:05 PM)Th... May 17 2005, 11:27 PM
Phil Stooke I am attaching a set of maps which portray the Sur... May 18 2005, 01:37 PM
chris Very nice, Phil.
Chris May 18 2005, 02:41 PM
Bob Shaw Fascinating! May 18 2005, 08:43 PM
tedstryk QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ May 18 2005, 08:43 PM)Fasci... May 22 2005, 07:49 PM
Bjorn Jonsson QUOTE (tedstryk @ May 22 2005, 07:49 PM)Does ... May 22 2005, 11:23 PM
tedstryk
If you have these numbers in a simple text file I... May 23 2005, 12:06 AM
GregM . May 23 2005, 02:16 AM
Phil Stooke I didn't do the geometric correction!
T... May 23 2005, 03:09 AM
Bob Shaw The Surveyor hemispherical panorama domes (there *... May 23 2005, 10:23 AM
edstrick A number of postings back, somebody was "diss... May 23 2005, 04:58 AM
dvandorn QUOTE (edstrick @ May 22 2005, 11:58 PM)A num... May 23 2005, 06:44 AM
edstrick I don't know any links, the Pioneer team never... May 23 2005, 09:49 AM
lyford QUOTE (edstrick @ May 23 2005, 01:49 AM)I don... May 23 2005, 03:48 PM
Bjorn Jonsson I made a preliminary page containing several Pione... May 23 2005, 08:26 PM
4th rock from the sun QUOTE (lyford @ May 23 2005, 04:48 PM)That bo... May 23 2005, 09:41 PM
Phil Stooke A few more words about the Surveyor panoramas. Th... May 23 2005, 10:07 PM
dvandorn QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ May 23 2005, 05:07 PM)A ... May 24 2005, 06:58 AM
edstrick The Surveyor images were recorded on tape... ANALO... May 24 2005, 10:55 AM
tedstryk QUOTE (edstrick @ May 24 2005, 10:55 AM)The S... May 24 2005, 11:45 AM
djellison Shouldnt someone like the Planetary Society or sim... May 24 2005, 11:38 AM
Phil Stooke Ted said:
Actually, that project is still underwa... May 24 2005, 01:12 PM
Phil Stooke ...And I ought to add something about Russian effo... May 24 2005, 01:24 PM
tedstryk Yeah, Voyager was the last to have the dots. Vidi... May 24 2005, 02:08 PM
Decepticon In the Pionner images of Jupiters moons Ganymede l... May 25 2005, 07:24 PM
tedstryk QUOTE (Decepticon @ May 25 2005, 07:24 PM)In ... May 25 2005, 08:03 PM
Decepticon Great work! ^ May 25 2005, 09:14 PM
Decepticon If remember right, one of the Pionners was to take... May 26 2005, 12:39 AM
tedstryk QUOTE (Decepticon @ May 26 2005, 12:39 AM)I r... May 26 2005, 12:57 AM
edstrick The Pioneer Jupiter missions were done by direct c... May 26 2005, 08:07 AM
Decepticon What a shock it would have been if those images ma... May 26 2005, 01:21 PM
tedstryk Another project I am working on is trying to work ... May 27 2005, 02:01 PM
chris The thing that always amazes me about the Venera l... May 27 2005, 03:10 PM
Bob Shaw The estimable Don Davis has also rectified Venera ... May 27 2005, 04:04 PM

tedstryk QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ May 27 2005, 04:04 PM)The e... May 27 2005, 04:39 PM
JRehling QUOTE (tedstryk @ May 27 2005, 07:01 AM)Anoth... May 30 2005, 05:55 PM
ElkGroveDan QUOTE (JRehling @ May 30 2005, 05:55 PM)The o... Jun 1 2005, 02:53 AM
Decepticon WOW!
That is amazing! May 30 2005, 08:40 PM
4th rock from the sun Interesting images ! Very nice!
But those ... May 30 2005, 09:50 PM
JRehling QUOTE (4th rock from the sun @ May 30 2005, 0... May 30 2005, 10:31 PM

paxdan if the hills are real does this in any way help pi... May 30 2005, 11:48 PM
tedstryk QUOTE (4th rock from the sun @ May 30 2005, 0... May 31 2005, 02:07 AM
Phil Stooke Paxdan - no, it does not help locate the landing s... May 31 2005, 12:08 AM
GregM . May 31 2005, 01:25 AM
Phil Stooke I have finally finished the Surveyor 5 pan. Here ... May 31 2005, 08:46 PM
Bob Shaw Phil:
Is there anything *interesting* on the hori... May 31 2005, 09:04 PM
Phil Stooke Unfortunately there is no feature on the horizon w... May 31 2005, 09:41 PM
tedstryk http://www.mentallandscape.com/V_Venus.htm
Check ... Jun 1 2005, 11:45 AM
DDAVIS Here is a perspective drawing I made in support of... Jun 1 2005, 04:26 PM
tedstryk I have created a new Venera page.
http://pages.pr... Jun 2 2005, 03:34 AM
4th rock from the sun QUOTE (tedstryk @ Jun 2 2005, 04:34 AM)I have... Jun 2 2005, 04:22 PM
GregM . Jun 3 2005, 02:51 AM
tedstryk QUOTE (GregM @ Jun 3 2005, 02:51 AM)I think y... Jun 3 2005, 02:54 AM
Decepticon tedstryk Great work! Your web-page is in my bo... Jun 2 2005, 12:11 PM
Bjorn Jonsson Jupiter is highly variable with time. The change i... Jun 2 2005, 02:22 PM
4th rock from the sun QUOTE (Decepticon @ Jun 2 2005, 01:11 PM)How ... Jun 2 2005, 04:34 PM
Phil Stooke Another Surveyor 5 scene. This goes out to the ho... Jun 2 2005, 07:56 PM
Decepticon Thanks for the links!
It really did change... Jun 2 2005, 08:58 PM![]() ![]() |
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