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[Phil Stooke]

Ted, there were two major reference atlases from the Orbiter data in the 60s, the Lunar Orbiter Photographic Atlas, and the Atlas and Gazetteer of the Near Side of the Moon. This one is a sort of hybrid. It includes images from the first one, with names on a second version of the images, but only covers the near side. I don't know if a second volume is planned for the far side, but I doubt it. Most LO4 images were near side, with a much smaller number for the far side, so I would have expected the far side to be just added to this one. Maybe I'm wrong.

One flaw with the book (I'm composing my review a bit prematurely here...) is poor indexing. It's tricky to find the image you want. A set of coverage/index maps would have been useful.

Phil

[tedstryk]

Ted, there were two major reference atlases from the Orbiter data in the 60s, the Lunar Orbiter Photographic Atlas, and the Atlas and Gazetteer of the Near Side of the Moon.  This one is a sort of hybrid.  It includes images from the first one, with names on a second version of the images, but only covers the near side.  I don't know if a second volume is planned for the far side, but I doubt it.  Most LO4 images were near side, with a much smaller number for the far side, so I would have expected the far side to be just added to this one.  Maybe I'm wrong.

One flaw with the book (I'm composing my review a bit prematurely here...) is poor indexing.  It's tricky to find the image you want.  A set of coverage/index maps would have been useful.

Phil

Yes, the books you speak of from the 60s have been checked out from our college library quite a few times by a certain Professor Stryk in Humanities. Does this new book contain the image numbers? If so, the previously mentioned references could be used in conjunction for navigation - as I recall, they contain maps.

[ljk4-1]

Yes, the books you speak of from the 60s have been checked out from our college library quite a few times by a certain Professor Stryk in Humanities.  Does this new book contain the image numbers?  If so, the previously mentioned references could be used in conjunction for navigation - as I recall, they contain maps.

You probably know about this, but just in case:

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/lunar_orbiter/


Go to this Web site and scroll down to the Lunar Orbiter section:

http://www.geocities.com/bobandrepont/unmannedpdf.htm

[Phil Stooke]

The Byrne book contains image numbers. The 'Guide to Lunar Orbiter Photographs' from the same period as the others is an excellent way to find useful images.

As for the LPI site, this book is closely related to that. I think Byrne used the LPI online images or their original scanned versions as his raw materials. His book is like the LPI site on paper, in a sense, except it isn't searchable so readily and - on paper - it only has a subset of the images. The CD-ROM bound in it has them all.

Note that this is not the same as the work being done at USGS to digitize and clean up the Orbiter images. That is being done at much higher resolution.

Stryk, Strick, Stooke - I think we need some new names around here!

Phil

[tedstryk]

Stryk, Strick, Stooke - I think we need some new names around here!

Phil

True

[edstrick]

<nods at Phil and grins at Ted>

Ever see the books by Paul Lowman, "Space Panorama" and "Lunar Panorama"?

http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/Search...tn=panorama&x=0

ABEbooks.com lists 12 copies total of the two... That's pretty good..some as cheap as 35$ .. I'd been looking for them for 30+ years when I finally found copies via the Advanced Book Exchange.

They have the highest quality reproductions of images from Earth orbiting and lunar missions that I'd seen at the time, far better than the milky-gray government printing office books.

Lowman's still around, one of the world's great experts in aerial and space photogeology.

[Bob Shaw]

<nods at Phil and grins at Ted>

Ever see the books by Paul Lowman, "Space Panorama" and "Lunar Panorama"?

I've ordered 'Space Panorama' and 'Lunar Panorama' - I hope the latter one is as good as Michael Light's 'Full Moon'!

[Phil Stooke]

Edstrick is right, Lowman's book 'Lunar Panorama' is excellent. The reproductions were superb. Lowman is plugging away at things like lunar observatories these days. They are probably looking more likely today than they have for a long time, as part of the scientific rationale for a return to the Moon.

Phil

[tedstryk]

<nods at Phil and grins at Ted>

Ever see the books by Paul Lowman, "Space Panorama" and "Lunar Panorama"?

http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/Search...tn=panorama&x=0

ABEbooks.com lists 12 copies total of the two... That's pretty good..some as cheap as 35$ .. I'd been looking for them for 30+ years when I finally found copies via the Advanced Book Exchange.

They have the highest quality reproductions of images from Earth orbiting and lunar missions that I'd seen at the time, far better than the milky-gray government printing office books.

Lowman's still around, one of the world's great experts in aerial and space photogeology.

Those are great books. Lunar Panorama is another frequent check out for me!

[scalbers]

I have cleaned up some Oberon imagery...man that is a horrible data set!

Ted,

This turns out to be one that caught my eye for a good map update. I'll continue to look at the other imagery you sent me. For now, you can see my update at
http://laps.fsl.noaa.gov/albers/sos/sos.html#OBERON. Thanks again for sharing your good work.

There's enough discussion on the Uranian satellites here that I'd almost like to suggest moving these posts to a new Uranus forum in the Outer Planets section.

[tedstryk]

Ted,

This turns out to be one that caught my eye for a good map update. I'll continue to look at the other imagery you sent me. For now, you can see my update at
http://laps.fsl.noaa.gov/albers/sos/sos.html#OBERON. Thanks again for sharing your good work.

There's enough discussion on the Uranian satellites here that I'd almost like to suggest moving these posts to a new Uranus forum in the Outer Planets section.

No problem. Your map is great. I really need to work on my Ariel mosaic when I get the chance - the one from the highest resolution color set. The other thing I want to work on is the Titania set - there are some great images I haven't processed.

[tedstryk]

I have been working on the Venera images a bit more. Some of these are on my blog, but this is my latest project. Thre are some problems. The left hand pan has really bad color data (and I mean by Venera standards, where even good is pretty bad). Also, some areas are covered by a color mast because no color data was available.

[tedstryk]

I have also worked on my Miranda images. To the right is the super-res Miranda global color image, which I have influenced a bit with OGV data from farther out. On the left is a colorized global wide angle view during the near encounter. I think setting the images up like this puts things in perspective.

[tedstryk]

I have also worked on my Miranda images.  To the right is the super-res Miranda global color image, which I have influenced a bit with OGV data from farther out.  On the left is a colorized global wide angle view during the near encounter.  I think setting the images up like this puts things in perspective.

To be honest, the more I let OGV influence the image, the more I get this -



A bluish Miranda. I am not sure why.

[Airbag]

Amazing stuff - I am just floored by your images, especially the Venera one. That pano really makes it seem you are standing right there on the surface of Venus; nice overview. I've got to keep reminding myself that the conditions there are so totally inhospitable, and those rocks are rocks on Venus. Wow.

Airbag