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djellison
post Apr 29 2005, 10:52 AM
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Look at the MI campaign on this puppy ohmy.gif It's got to be a 4 x 4 frame MI mosaic ohmy.gif

http://qt.exploratorium.edu:16080/mars/spi...cam/2005-04-28/

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post May 6 2005, 06:43 PM
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I'm curious about the "blue kryptonite". False color aside, its morphology is clearly different from the outcrop it's lying on (smoother for a start, implying newer? harder?) and it has odd swirly patterns on top. Can anyone suggest an origin? volcanic ejecta? meteorite fragment ?

And besides, if you look at earlier photos of the same rock, it appears to have a pretzel glued to one end ...

http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/pa...HEP2280L7M1.JPG


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post May 10 2005, 03:10 AM
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QUOTE (stevo @ May 6 2005, 11:43 AM)
I'm curious about the "blue kryptonite".  False color aside, its morphology is clearly different from the outcrop it's lying on (smoother for a start, implying newer? harder?) and it has odd swirly patterns on top.  Can anyone suggest an origin? volcanic ejecta? meteorite fragment ?

And besides, if you look at earlier photos of the same rock, it appears to have a pretzel glued to one end ...

http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/pa...HEP2280L7M1.JPG
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When I saw this rock, I thought it looked odd, too. It took me a while to put my finger on it. There is not sediment around it. With all the dust and sand blowing around and the protected area under the rock, it should quickly gather dust around the base. This hasn't been there very long.

Does anybody have context images?

I'll bet it broke loose from an outcrop that is just out of frame. Not very long ago.
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post May 10 2005, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE (Edward Schmitz @ May 10 2005, 05:10 AM)
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/pa...HEP2280L7M1.JPG

When I saw this rock, I thought it looked odd, too.  It took me a while to put my finger on it.  There is not sediment around it.  With all the dust and sand blowing around and the protected area under the rock, it should quickly gather dust around the base.  This hasn't been there very long. 

Does anybody have context images?

I'll bet it broke loose from an outcrop that is just out of frame.  Not very long ago.
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I guess too this rock became ejected by an impact event in the Gusev volcanic floor. It's a similar like those on the plain. Regarding the time and dust, I would say "not long ago" too, but it lies on a naked rock, maybe therefore without dust.

Methuselah east: (900KB) http://www.greuti.ch/spirit/spirit_navcam_sol477.jpg


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post May 10 2005, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE (Tman @ May 10 2005, 04:29 AM)
QUOTE (Edward Schmitz @ May 10 2005, 05:10 AM)
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/pa...HEP2280L7M1.JPG

When I saw this rock, I thought it looked odd, too.  It took me a while to put my finger on it.  There is not sediment around it.  With all the dust and sand blowing around and the protected area under the rock, it should quickly gather dust around the base.  This hasn't been there very long. 

Does anybody have context images?

I'll bet it broke loose from an outcrop that is just out of frame.  Not very long ago.
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I guess too this rock became ejected by an impact event in the Gusev volcanic floor. It's a similar like those on the plain. Regarding the time and dust, I would say "not long ago" too, but it lies on a naked rock, maybe therefore without dust.

Methuselah east: (900KB) http://www.greuti.ch/spirit/spirit_navcam_sol477.jpg
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Remember, it gets windy up in the hills. I can imagine a sequence of events where a piece of basalt gets lobbed on top of a much softer piece of sandstone and the winds strip the sandstone down to a flat, "floor-tile" appearance (sweeping the eroded dust away) and leaving the denser basalt far less eroded. Now, in such a case, you have to postulate changing wind directions to explain the lack of a "shadow" of non-deflated dust, but it's not hard to believe that winds would vary enough to accomplish the job. Especially over the thousands (maybe millions) of years that basalt has been sitting there, the sandstone underneath it slowly blowing away in the wind...

It can be hard to apply common-sense "gut feelings" about erosion processes to aeolian weathering, especially in such a thin atmosphere, since it takes so *very* long for that thin air to erode the softer rocks down flat. Over the very long time that it takes to erode the sandstone flat, prevailing wind directions can change a lot, especially in a hilly region where we *know* atmospheric vortices are common.

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- djellison   Methuselah   Apr 29 2005, 10:52 AM
- - Sunspot   http://planetary.org/news/2005/mer-udpate_0428.htm...   Apr 29 2005, 11:03 AM
- - OWW   Here is one of those MI images already. Looks like...   Apr 29 2005, 11:03 AM
|- - chris   I'm not a geologist, so I could be dead wrong,...   Apr 29 2005, 11:38 AM
- - gpurcell   Looks like Pot of Gold to me as well. Hopefully w...   Apr 29 2005, 04:47 PM
|- - dilo   QUOTE (gpurcell @ Apr 29 2005, 04:47 PM)Looks...   May 2 2005, 10:55 PM
- - deglr6328   I feel like some parts of those images are just te...   Apr 30 2005, 09:44 PM
- - glennwsmith   I'd like to add my two cents worth to what Chr...   May 1 2005, 02:07 AM
- - glennwsmith   Neato!   May 3 2005, 02:31 AM
- - dot.dk   Moving on to a new target by the looks of it. The...   May 3 2005, 07:54 AM
- - Burmese   I wonder how this rock picked up that tidy circula...   May 3 2005, 12:41 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (Burmese @ May 3 2005, 07:41 AM)I wonde...   May 3 2005, 06:30 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (dvandorn @ May 3 2005, 11:30 AM)QUOTE ...   May 3 2005, 07:10 PM
|- - Jeff7   QUOTE (JRehling @ May 3 2005, 03:10 PM)QUOTE ...   May 3 2005, 08:00 PM
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||- - dilo   Finally, Spirit found a chunk of blue Kryptonite l...   May 6 2005, 06:25 AM
|- - helvick   QUOTE (JRehling @ May 3 2005, 08:10 PM)...   May 3 2005, 08:37 PM
- - djellison   RE: Methuselah   May 3 2005, 07:51 PM
- - Sunspot   There was some suggestion that meteorites impactin...   May 3 2005, 10:17 PM
- - Sunspot   Looks like they've driven round to the other s...   May 6 2005, 12:18 PM
- - stevo   I'm curious about the "blue kryptonite...   May 6 2005, 06:43 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (stevo @ May 6 2005, 01:43 PM)I'm c...   May 6 2005, 08:42 PM
||- - dilo   QUOTE (dvandorn @ May 6 2005, 08:42 PM)[Also,...   May 7 2005, 11:38 AM
||- - dilo   Amazing outcrops views on Sol477... Technically,...   May 8 2005, 09:41 PM
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|- - Tman   QUOTE (Edward Schmitz @ May 10 2005, 05:10 AM...   May 10 2005, 09:29 AM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (Tman @ May 10 2005, 04:29 AM)QUOTE (Ed...   May 10 2005, 05:02 PM
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