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post May 1 2005, 06:19 PM
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Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter will follow clues to where the lost Mars Polar Lander and Beagle 2 might be.
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post May 5 2005, 11:04 AM
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Lunar orbiter 2 and 3 were capable of 1 meter resolution with the high resolution frames. Orbiter 1 had it's image motion compensation system fail, and the high rez pics from low orbit were smeared.

Orbiter 4 had 50 meter rez from periapsis in it's eccentric mapping orbit. Orbiter 5 was in a higher periapse orbit than 1 through 3 for science site mapping

As far as resolution possible from Mars orbit...

Remember a bit of physics called the "diffraction limit"

Hubble-sized optics in low earth orbit have a diffraction limit of maybe 5-10 cm on vertical pointed images... Hubble sized.. that's the big recon sats. You can see a licence plate but not read it. (that's what I understand, I've never seen real performance numbers)

Mars Recon orbiter's gonna be working essentially at it's diffraction limit, I hope and expect. If you want to do better, you're gonna have to buy a spare KH-11 or some such sat from the spooks. It wouldn't be easy to get it to Mars even if you had it!
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post May 5 2005, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE (edstrick @ May 5 2005, 11:04 AM)
Lunar orbiter 2 and 3 were capable of 1 meter resolution with the high resolution frames.  Orbiter 1 had it's image motion compensation system fail, and the high rez pics from low orbit were smeared. 

Orbiter 4 had 50 meter rez from periapsis in it's eccentric mapping orbit.  Orbiter 5 was in a higher periapse orbit than 1 through 3 for science site mapping

As far as resolution possible from Mars orbit...

Remember a bit of physics called the "diffraction limit"

Hubble-sized optics in low earth orbit have a diffraction limit of maybe 5-10 cm on vertical pointed images... Hubble sized.. that's the big recon sats.    You can see a licence plate but not read it.  (that's what I understand, I've never seen real performance numbers)

Mars Recon orbiter's gonna be working essentially at it's diffraction limit, I hope and expect.  If you want to do better, you're gonna have to buy a spare KH-11 or some such sat from the spooks.  It wouldn't be easy to get it to Mars even if you had it!
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I want to look into myself. Edstrick (or anyone else for that matter), do you have any info on MRO's optics? I don't even know aperature.


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post May 5 2005, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE (tedstryk @ May 5 2005, 07:39 AM)
I want to look into myself.
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Well, for that, you'd need an X-ray machine, or an MRI...

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- Sunspot   Looking For The Landers   May 1 2005, 06:19 PM
- - edstrick   They will want to image all known landing sites in...   May 2 2005, 09:17 AM
- - djellison   Things that we should be able to find... Viking 1...   May 2 2005, 11:37 AM
- - Sunspot   http://space.com/missionlaunches/050502_mpl_search...   May 2 2005, 11:59 AM
- - remcook   what is the footprint size of HiRise? how long doe...   May 4 2005, 02:27 PM
|- - tedstryk   "The Mars 3 descent module was mounted on the...   May 4 2005, 03:02 PM
- - djellison   HiRise is a BEAST 20,000 pixels across, and imag...   May 4 2005, 03:13 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (djellison @ May 4 2005, 10:13 AM)HiRis...   May 5 2005, 06:03 AM
- - John M. Dollan   Out of curiosity... How far do you suppose the ch...   May 5 2005, 06:45 AM
- - djellison   MOC can do 1.5m/pixel - but the downrange sampling...   May 5 2005, 07:57 AM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (djellison @ May 5 2005, 02:57 AM)MOC c...   May 5 2005, 08:19 AM
- - djellison   I cant imagine a data-pipeline that would work fro...   May 5 2005, 09:05 AM
- - edstrick   Lunar orbiter 2 and 3 were capable of 1 meter reso...   May 5 2005, 11:04 AM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (edstrick @ May 5 2005, 11:04 AM)Lunar ...   May 5 2005, 12:39 PM
||- - dvandorn   QUOTE (tedstryk @ May 5 2005, 07:39 AM)I want...   May 5 2005, 03:08 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (edstrick @ May 5 2005, 06:04 AM)Lunar ...   May 5 2005, 03:47 PM
|- - chris   QUOTE (dvandorn @ May 5 2005, 03:47 PM)I don...   May 5 2005, 04:09 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (chris @ May 5 2005, 11:09 AM)QUOTE (dv...   May 5 2005, 04:29 PM
|- - tty   QUOTE (dvandorn @ May 5 2005, 06:29 PM)QUOTE ...   May 5 2005, 06:05 PM
- - djellison   http://marsoweb.nas.nasa.gov/HiRISE/instrument.htm...   May 5 2005, 12:40 PM
- - edstrick   I do not clearly recall whether the man who intent...   May 6 2005, 10:08 AM
- - jaredGalen   "In a statement newly issued on the MSSS Mars...   May 6 2005, 01:42 PM


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