ugordan
Feb 3 2009, 01:06 PM
Works for me, at least from work. At home it's been dead slow ever since they updated the site.
Here's the Jan 31st Titan observation:
Click to view attachment
ngunn
Feb 3 2009, 01:28 PM
Beautiful! Did you do some processing or is the lake really that clear on the raws?
ugordan
Feb 3 2009, 02:05 PM
ngunn
Feb 3 2009, 02:23 PM
QUOTE (ugordan @ Feb 3 2009, 02:05 PM)

Not sure if this'll work for you
Nope, but your version will do me just fine in the meantime.
QUOTE (ngunn @ Feb 3 2009, 10:19 AM)

Is it just me? For the last couple of days I haven't been able to view the most recent raw images.
I have to be honest, I'm really not a fan of the new look raw images site or format. It crawls at a snail's pace, and just doesn't seem as effecient to me. It's actually put me off visiting it.
Juramike
Feb 3 2009, 03:22 PM
I had the Cassini-Huygens home as my intitial page when starting up IE.
But the annoyingly slow "loading the player" has forced me to switch to something else.
(Did that drop their view count?)
I did fill out a feedback form. Hopefully if enough people comment, the website will improve.
-Mike
Phil Stooke
Feb 3 2009, 04:38 PM
Change for change's sake. All too common in cyberspace. Want to upgrade a site? Add more content. I use the Cassini site far less now than I did before.
Phil
ngunn
Feb 3 2009, 04:57 PM
QUOTE (ugordan @ Feb 3 2009, 01:06 PM)

Here's the Jan 31st Titan observation:
Click to view attachmentAnd here's the earlier Kraken Mare view for comparison:
http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...st&id=16065I notice a small bright spot in the middle of the southerly bay in the new image. Is it real? Gordan (anybody) - does it appear in all three raws?
It's either absent or a lot less prominent in the older image.
Island, cloud or artifact?
ugordan
Feb 3 2009, 05:02 PM
QUOTE (ngunn @ Feb 3 2009, 05:57 PM)

Island, cloud or artifact?
It's a cosmic ray hit.
ngunn
Feb 3 2009, 05:23 PM
QUOTE (ugordan @ Feb 3 2009, 05:02 PM)

It's a cosmic ray hit.
OK but I've just been digging for the original discovery image of the lake and that does appear to have a feature in the same position:
http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...ost&id=9505I wonder if we're talking about the same thing?
Sunspot
Feb 3 2009, 06:43 PM
QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Feb 3 2009, 04:38 PM)

Change for change's sake. All too common in cyberspace. Want to upgrade a site? Add more content. I use the Cassini site far less now than I did before.
Phil
I'm finding it VERY slow to use too, but then my PC is over 8 years old. I have the RAW pages bookmarked, and go straight to them skipping the homepage. But even they seem a fair bit slower to navigate.
ugordan
Feb 3 2009, 06:46 PM
QUOTE (ngunn @ Feb 3 2009, 06:23 PM)

I wonder if we're talking about the same thing?
Apparently not, but anything faint and ambiguous you see in these enhanced, raw views is
very suspect.
ngunn
Feb 3 2009, 07:21 PM
QUOTE (ugordan @ Feb 3 2009, 06:46 PM)

Apparently not
Actually yes! I've just tried the Cassini site again and was able to look at two of the three raws. (The third one 'opens' to reveal a couple of lines of random dialogue.) So now I can see that the cosmic ray is indeed the biggest contributor to what I was looking at - but it's still an interesting part of the lake that may not be totally 'blank' to ISS.
My reason for staring at marginally visible features within the lake is simple. There shouldn't be any! I'm not looking for changes, I'm looking for what stays the same. If some of the subtle features appear in the same place each time we view the lake then maybe they represent something real. Now while with SAR you can say we're seeing through the liquid to the lake bed beneath that shouldn't be so for the ISS images - unless the lake is
very shallow, or indeed more of a mudflat.
However I'm not up to the job of taking the different Kraken views, reprojecting them and overlaying for direct comparison. What a pity . .
peter59
Feb 5 2009, 12:44 AM
QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Feb 3 2009, 12:59 PM)

And same here - I was hoping to see images from yesterday's flyby of Rhea.
Many new images of Rhea available.
Bjorn Jonsson
Feb 5 2009, 11:26 AM
And lots of interesting images of the F ring, including what's perhaps the most spectacular image I've ever seen of that ring:
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/rawi...?imageID=181948Just WOW!
Sunspot
Feb 5 2009, 03:54 PM
These direct links to Cassini RAW images no longer work for me, is anyone else having problems viewing them?
jamescanvin
Feb 5 2009, 04:00 PM
Read
a few posts back on this very thread, where we talked about this problem.
It seems intermittent. That link Bjorn posted worked for me this morning but it's gone again now.
Bjorn Jonsson
Feb 5 2009, 04:34 PM
The direct link works for me but I'm posting the image here so everyone can have a look:
Click to view attachment
mchan
Feb 6 2009, 05:31 AM
Thanks for posting the image. Wow, that IS spectacular. Surreal.
remcook
Mar 26 2009, 12:34 PM
ngunn
Apr 15 2009, 07:17 PM
Just clicked on one of the latest batch of raw image thumbnails and got this message:
"Turn of a Narrow Ring","ISINSIDER":"0","STORYURL":"","ISFEATURED":"0","STORYI
What could that possibly mean?
elakdawalla
Apr 15 2009, 10:57 PM
It's just some kind of database error. That site just hasn't been the same since their redesign.
lyford
Apr 15 2009, 11:44 PM
Well, I would have gotten more excited if it said ""ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS EXCEPT ENCELADUS..."
Bjorn Jonsson
Apr 16 2009, 08:30 PM
QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Apr 15 2009, 10:57 PM)

It's just some kind of database error. That site just hasn't been the same since their redesign.
I have almost stopped looking at the raw JPGs after the redesign unless something particularly interesting is going on (e.g. the recent ring images). It's just too slow if you want to look at a lot of images and errors are too frequent. The only nice thing is that last time I checked links to the directories containing the images worked but they only contain the images - not the captions.
Ian R
Apr 20 2009, 11:50 PM
Here's my RGB version of the Titan crescent that's just appeared on the raw images page:
Click to view attachment
ngunn
May 13 2009, 09:09 PM
Astro0
May 21 2009, 06:46 AM
jasedm
Jul 3 2009, 06:52 PM
Stu,
I agree wholeheartedly.
This single image conveys a HUGE amount of information - It shows the Encke gap as part of Saturn's ring system (with associated ringlet), the Keeler gap, Prometheus and Atlas, Prometheus's gravitational effect on the F-ring, Prometheus's shadow across the f ring, cosmic ray hits, background stars, fine scale gradation within the A ring and so on. It's testament to the people that point the instruments on Cassini that they tease out the absolute maximum from every opportunity.
We are so privileged to be living in the era of a dedicated Saturn orbiter, and that the people that control it are so willing to share the raw data.
Now all we need are two more orbiters, one at Uranus and one at Neptune.....
Stu
Jul 13 2009, 10:21 PM
ngunn
Jul 31 2009, 12:41 PM
No new raw images since 10th July - one month before Saturn equinox. I'm assuming its an unfortunately timed summer vacation thing. Anybody know different?
volcanopele
Jul 31 2009, 04:21 PM
Not sure what is up with that page. I can assure you that images have been taken and have been brought back to Earth.
ugordan
Aug 4 2009, 11:57 PM
Several nice Janus shots from July 26 have appeared on the raw page, here's one false color IR3 + UV3 composite:
Click to view attachment
peter59
Aug 5 2009, 10:21 AM
CAP-Team
Aug 5 2009, 08:31 PM
I had hoped this one was going to be spectacular, with Titan's shadow crossing the rings casting its shadow on Saturn:
Click to view attachmentThe real raw image is quite dissappointing..
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/rawi...?imageID=197633
volcanopele
Aug 5 2009, 09:13 PM
LOL, yeah, the observation may have been called TISATSHAD001... but, umm, yeah, the shadow is on the other side of Saturn at the time...
Regardless, these sequences have produced AWESOME images of Saturn. Already have Monday's as my desktop background.
Phil Stooke
Aug 5 2009, 09:17 PM
Janus isn't disappointing, though - it shows the same kinds of albedo variation - irregular darkish patches - that we saw on Epimetheus in its closest images. No other small satellites show the same kinds of markings. On Hyperion, for instance, the dark spots are much more concentrated in low points.
Phil
ugordan
Aug 5 2009, 09:24 PM
FWIW, I've also made a few Janus composites from PDS data some time ago. IR1/GRN/UV3 stuff, see
here.
Juramike
Aug 5 2009, 10:27 PM
QUOTE (CAP-Team @ Aug 5 2009, 03:31 PM)

Is that Titan's shadow taking a chunk out of the outer ring?
volcanopele
Aug 5 2009, 11:05 PM
QUOTE (volcanopele @ Aug 5 2009, 02:13 PM)

LOL, yeah, the observation may have been called TISATSHAD001... but, umm, yeah, the shadow is on the other side of Saturn at the time...
Regardless, these sequences have produced AWESOME images of Saturn. Already have Monday's as my desktop background.
Whoops, I should have clicked the actually link, not a bad shot though.
tedstryk
Aug 5 2009, 11:13 PM
QUOTE (peter59 @ Aug 5 2009, 11:21 AM)

I swear it almost looks like giant impact basin sticking just over the terminator in the lower half of the image...probably a coincidence though.
Juramike
Aug 5 2009, 11:55 PM
Here's my shot at processing the Enceladus image - lotsa stuff got modified. (Full details on my flickr page
here):
Click to view attachment -Mike
Juramike
Aug 28 2009, 06:59 PM
Crop from raw image
N00141396 of the F-ring and two crescent moons (slight gamma slide)
Some seriously cool gravitational effects!
Click to view attachment
Juramike
Aug 29 2009, 06:43 AM
Animated GIF of Prometheus (the inner moon) raising gravitational effects in the F-ring as it scoots past Pandora (the outer moon).
Click to view attachment<Animated GIF: Click to animate>
-Mike
(The full size image can be seen here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/31678681@N07/...157622089931268)
(Two background stars can also be seen to move due to spacecraft motion in center-right and right in the image.)
nprev
Aug 29 2009, 06:56 AM

<WHAM!!!><rubs sore jaw ruefully> That's breathtaking, Mike!
First time that I've ever really perceived the symmetry of the F-ring waves.
Floyd
Aug 29 2009, 02:41 PM
Really nice series of images of
Telesto
ugordan
Aug 29 2009, 03:08 PM
RGB composite, color-balanced to resemble
this calibrated view:
Click to view attachmentMagnified 2x. I figure there's a 60/40 chance the image is upside-down, with north pointing down.
(Cue Phil)
volcanopele
Aug 29 2009, 08:23 PM
North is pretty much up. That view shows the leading hemisphere of Telesto, compared to previous observations that highlighted the trailing hemisphere.
ugordan
Aug 30 2009, 06:23 PM
Some of the most prominent spoke displays I ever saw from Cassini came down.
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/rawi...?imageID=200348Too bad the images are downsampled and horribly artifacted (short exposures?). They aren't visible in saturnlit portion of the rings, but the low sun angle on the evening side really brings them out nicely.
Bill Harris
Aug 30 2009, 09:16 PM
The "spoke images" were pretty chunky, but have you seen the Ring shadow/Cassini (?) Gap display on Janus? N00141747 -55?
Link to initial GIF animation of the, uh, event:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment....hmentid=2723114
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