fredk
Jan 14 2007, 12:24 AM
From the latest
update:QUOTE
Sol 1075: Spirit observed the morning transit of Phobos using the miniature thermal emission spectrometer...
QUOTE
Sol 1078 (Jan. 14, 2007): Plans called for Spirit to ... survey the sky and ground during the Phobos transit at 1:45 p.m. local solar time using the miniature thermal emission spectrometer.
Does anyone know what the temporal resolution or sampling rate of miniTES is? Could it be better than pancam and so better resolve the brief transit?
climber
Jan 14 2007, 06:08 AM
Another weird idea about the eclipse. Instead of taking a movie of the scenary around, can Spirit take the IDD's shadow before during and after pending it's in the correct position? Any benefit of that?
djellison
Jan 14 2007, 10:15 AM
It's not really about benefit - it's about cool factor...little else really
Doug
alan
Jan 15 2007, 04:44 AM
Lots of new super resolution images posted at the Pancam site
http://marswatch.astro.cornell.edu/pancam_...t/superres.html
Ant103
Jan 15 2007, 11:01 AM
Hu hu hu hu !
Gray
Jan 15 2007, 05:09 PM
Amazing !!!!
zoost
Jan 17 2007, 01:34 PM
Any ideas what formed the tiny
spaghetti like features on the top of the accretionary lapilli?
Tesheiner
Jan 17 2007, 01:40 PM
Dust/sand grains or ...?
It would be nice to see another MI at a different illumination angle.
CosmicRocker
Jan 18 2007, 04:11 AM
They really do convincingly appear more like lapilli all the time, don't they.
As for the spaghetti-like things, there are
views available of the same area with different illumination. The shadowed version is somewhat suggestive of a dust layer adhering to the underside of the layer, but I suppose it could be other things, like remnants of a lower layer of angular clasts, a weathering rind, or a salt deposit. Curious...
nprev
Jan 18 2007, 04:43 AM
Can the TES derive any meaningful information about the "spaghetti's" composition from such a limited (in terms of surface area) sample? Seems as if there's a lot of interesting questions with regard to Martian minerology here that are worth investigating (esp. the influence/effects of atmospheric characteristics vs. mafic influences).
jvandriel
Jan 18 2007, 08:25 PM
The Pancam L2 view on Sol 1081.
jvandriel
atomoid
Jan 18 2007, 10:43 PM
aside from the spaghetti on
SOL 1080, which i nterpret as dust clumping like rime ice, im intrigued by the bright speck at lower right, some sort of crystal facet reflecting the sunshine? the
views without the sunlight only show a somewhat uninspiring out of focus speck in the same place.
How come we havent seen any crystals in the sediments so far (or have we?), seems the conditions should have allowed some crystal growth, but maybe they are just salt crystals and dont weather very well..
CosmicRocker
Jan 19 2007, 07:53 PM
I have seen quite a few bright specs in images from both rovers, and have also wondered if at least some of them were flashes from crystal faces. Most of them are too small to determine what they are, but occasionally there have been larger areas that resembled specular reflections to me. The one that comes to mind at the moment is Bounce Rock. Some images of it seemed to display a lot of specular reflections, but I can imagine it may be simply a saturated exposure.

As for seeing crystals of any kind, I think we've seen several examples, though not as commonly as I would have expected. I think I have seen crystal shapes or cross sections in quite a few of the rocks Spirit has looked at with the MI. Opportunity did catch at least a few images of crystals surrounding some concretions (upper right in this:
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/pre...-B038R1_br.jpg), and there were the hopper crystal outlines seen at Lemon Rind.
Stu
Jan 19 2007, 09:30 PM
First time I've tried this...
Click to view attachment("Fast Show" voice: "Isn't Ultreya BRILLIANT???!"

Some lovely layered rocks here too...
Click to view attachment
atomoid
Jan 20 2007, 12:05 AM
QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Jan 19 2007, 07:53 PM)

...crystal shapes or cross sections in quite a few of the rocks Spirit has looked at with the MI. Opportunity did catch at least a few images of crystals surrounding some concretions (upper right in this:
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/pre...-B038R1_br.jpg), and there were the hopper crystal outlines seen at Lemon Rind.
The vugs are found aplenty in the weatherd rocks, but i was hoping to see some remaining crystals, although i guess they'd likely all be salt crystals of some sort and would be long gone, unless we could do some ground breaking to find unweatherd ones. as for other crystal types that might last longer, i guess we have to look somewhere else...
Nice picture of bounce, i didnt remember noting what looks like a some soil and blueberries in a depression on top of it, so now how did the bloobs get up there??
fredk
Jan 20 2007, 12:12 AM
More exciting astro-astronomy plans from the latest
update:QUOTE
Science team members plan to have Spirit observe a transit of the Martian moon Phobos as it passes between the rover and the sun on sol 1083 (Jan. 19, 2007) and attempt to acquire panoramic camera images of comet McNaught at sunrise. It is possible that predawn sunlight will make the comet hard to see.
Does anyone have access to software that can show us the sky from Mars? What will the elongation of McNaught be that morning?
slinted
Jan 20 2007, 12:34 AM
QUOTE (fredk @ Jan 19 2007, 04:12 PM)

Does anyone have access to software that can show us the sky from Mars? What will the elongation of McNaught be that morning?
JPL's Horizons puts the Sun-Observer-Target angle at slightly below 10 degrees for sunrise on sol 1083. Thankfully, the lower dust levels will give a clearer view at sunrise than we would have seen last week. This should be very cool!
mhoward
Jan 20 2007, 03:38 AM
QUOTE (fredk @ Jan 20 2007, 12:12 AM)

More exciting astro-astronomy plans from the latest
update:Some
Pancam images came down, taken about 5 am local Mars time on Sol 1083, facing east. I don't see the comet, though.
Maybe Oppy will have better luck?
fredk
Jan 20 2007, 04:49 AM
Thanks for pointing them out - I saw that they were L7's and ignored them, thinking for sure they'd use L1, the wide open setting. But then considering how close to the sun McNaught is, the sky may be so bright by the time the comet rises that L7 will work. And perhaps L7 will cut through the dust better than L1?
CosmicRocker
Jan 20 2007, 05:51 AM
Sweet. An image of McNaught would be a nice feather in the cap for one of these Renaissance Rovers. Apparently Opportunity will also make an attempt. I'd guess they'll have more opportunities to try to catch it in coming sols.
QUOTE (atomoid @ Jan 19 2007, 06:05 PM)

The vugs are found aplenty in the weatherd rocks, but i was hoping to see some remaining crystals, although i guess they'd likely all be salt crystals of some sort and would be long gone, unless we could do some ground breaking to find unweatherd ones. as for other crystal types that might last longer, i guess we have to look somewhere else...
Nice picture of bounce, i didnt remember noting what looks like a some soil and blueberries in a depression on top of it, so now how did the bloobs get up there??
I'm sorry. I might not have been clear about that, as there are also vugs in that image. I was referring to the sharply angular grains hugging the blueberry in the upper left corner. This section of rock seems to have undergone some recrystallization that caused it to change rather dramatically in appearance as compared to other parts of the section in Eagle Crater. They too might be merely the preserved shapes of previous crystals that were later replaced by another mineral, but I can't speak to that. It appears likely that this was the Whatanga contact we saw in Endurance. Does anyone know where that name comes from?
Click to view attachment Ok, I'll stop talking about Opportunity in a Spirit topic.
jvandriel
Jan 20 2007, 10:19 AM
Added a few images.
The Pancam L2 panoramic view taken on Sol 1081.
jvandriel
tedstryk
Jan 21 2007, 02:37 PM
QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 19 2007, 09:30 PM)

First time I've tried this...
Good work...I also played around a bit with Sol 1081.
Tesheiner
Jan 23 2007, 01:58 PM
Spirit may have finished work at this outcrop because the plan for tosol (1087) is

.
general
Jan 23 2007, 08:45 PM
fredk
Jan 23 2007, 09:01 PM
Unfortunately all there seems to be is cosmic ray hits. Notice how they're both above and below the horizon.
fredk
Jan 24 2007, 04:50 PM
I was wondering what the faint brightening was running across
this left pancam view from the morning of sol 1083 comet search. Now that we have the corresponding
right image we can see that the faint band is actually the horizon line and the left frame is actually mostly glare, perhaps from the rising sun?
djellison
Jan 24 2007, 04:55 PM
I think there must be a bug in the naming there - those two images can't have been taken at the same time - they are totally different pointings.
Doug
fredk
Jan 24 2007, 05:03 PM
Doug, you actually
can see the horizon line in that left frame, if you look very closely. It matches the location from the
other left frame that morning. (The 2 right frames that morning show that the camera didn't move between shots.) It's just that the image of the sky in the left frame in question is almost completely swamped by some glare that's mostly in the lower left of the frame. If you look at the
thumbnails it's pretty clear.
djellison
Jan 24 2007, 05:34 PM
Well that is just astonishing...totally bleached out. Bizarre

Doug
jvandriel
Jan 25 2007, 07:49 PM
The Panoramic view on Sol 1087.
Taken with the L0 Navcam.
jvandriel
jvandriel
Jan 25 2007, 09:55 PM
Here is a mosaic taken with the Mi cam on Sol 1085.
jvandriel
Tesheiner
Jan 26 2007, 08:49 AM
We have some fresh images from Spirit at the exploratorium. It moved again on sol 1089 towards Tyrone and is currently midway on this trek.
http://nasa.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/navcam/2007-01-25/http://nasa.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/navcam/2007-01-26/This is my attempt of sol 1087 navcam mosaic including Spirit's current position.
Click to view attachment
climber
Jan 26 2007, 08:09 PM
jvandriel
Jan 27 2007, 02:39 PM
The panoramic view looking back.
Taken wth the L7 Pancam on Sol 1087.
jvandriel
djellison
Jan 27 2007, 02:46 PM
Who'd have thought they'd need drive direction imagery after spending eleventy seven million sols parked in the area.

Doug
Tman
Jan 27 2007, 04:16 PM
It could be that in the meantime some rock toppled or a meteorite impacted a large hole
mhoward
Jan 30 2007, 04:26 AM
Shaka
Jan 30 2007, 07:56 PM
Hmmm... back to the 'popcorn sulfides'. I wonder if we dare try to travel along them to get nearer to the morass, or if this location becomes our perch to mini-Tes the area. Do the codes show more driving tomorrow?
mhoward
Jan 30 2007, 08:19 PM
You know, from here, with the benefit of hindsight, I think the area where Spirit got stuck looks like the big sand trap that it turned out to be. I still think there is a way around to the south - but I gather from the
Mission Update that they'll be heading back to Home Plate after finishing at Tyrone. There is certainly no shortage of targets around here - I hope Spirit can keep going for a long time.
Shaka
Jan 30 2007, 08:36 PM
From the statements of SS and others in the hierarchy, I conclude that climbing McCool, or any other hill with lots of exposed bedrock, is now in the 'too hard' basket. I concede that it would be a form of Russian roulette, with the stuck wheel. I think the PIs will be looking for scientific targets Spirit can reach while plowing through sand, probably from Home Plate toward the south.
fredk
Jan 30 2007, 08:38 PM
According to the
jpl spirit update, 10 metres is as close as they dare get:
QUOTE
In the coming week, scientists plan to have Spirit retrace its tracks toward a soil exposure known as "Tyrone" for additional panoramic camera images and miniature thermal emission spectrometer measurements to be taken from a distance of about 10 meters.
Tesheiner
Jan 31 2007, 10:38 AM
Another small step on sol 1094.
This is the current position, as seen from the previous one on sol 1092.
Click to view attachment
mhoward
Feb 1 2007, 12:58 AM
The full sol 1092-1093 Navcam pan:
Phil Stooke
Feb 1 2007, 02:21 PM
Here's a polar version of mhoward's new panorama. The tracks show up really well.
Phil
Click to view attachment
Oersted
Feb 1 2007, 03:05 PM
What happened to "the Abyss"? Those two dark streaks one third in from either side... Was a new layer of sand dumped in the middle of it, and are they the edges of it? - Sorry if this has been observed before, maybe it is just me not following the mission close enough.
ustrax
Feb 1 2007, 03:08 PM
QUOTE (Oersted @ Feb 1 2007, 03:05 PM)

What happened to "the Abyss"?
You can catch up what has been happening on El Dorado in
this thread.
Tesheiner
Feb 1 2007, 03:22 PM
QUOTE (fredk @ Jan 30 2007, 09:38 PM)

According to the
jpl spirit update, 10 metres is as close as they dare get:
The rover is currently (as of sol 1094/1095) at about that distance. Well, between 10m and 13m; Tyrone is quite big. But that seems to be not close enough so yet another move is on the plan: sol 1096.
I hope that's the last one (*). I'm eager to see this little machine on the way to Home Plate again!

Edited: (*) I think it'll probably be the last one. If the plan is to study Tyrone with the pancam and mini-TES, there is no need (imo) to spend more then the weekend on those activities. Let's see if we can say "Good bye Tyrone" by next monday.
fredk
Feb 2 2007, 12:10 AM
Nice polar, Phil, thanks.
From the latest
Plantetary Society update, an explanation of the interest in returning towards Tyrone:
QUOTE
We have that 6-micrometer feature in the mini-TES spectra, the water band, and that's pretty exciting and we have water-related materials produced in the regolith, not as outcrop but in the regolith. We probably need 5 sols' worth of observations at a minimum.
and
QUOTE
My idea – and this is my own personal hypothesis – is we might be looking at evaporitic salts that have come from acid solutions, water solutions bleaching McCool Hill, just coming up and evaporating right at the base through the regolith that was at the base of the hill and forming these sulfate-rich salts.
After homeplate, the plan is to
QUOTE
head to the southwest toward Goddard and Von Braun, a little mesa and another circular feature.
Yes!
jvandriel
Feb 3 2007, 12:09 PM
Here is the complete Navcam panoramic view taken on
Sol 1092 and Sol 1093.
Taken with the L0 Navcam.
jvandriel
jvandriel
Feb 3 2007, 12:39 PM
Another panoramic view of the wheeltracks in front and at the back of Spirit.
Taken with the L0 Navcam on Sol 1094.
jvandriel
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