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Analyst
Did nobody notice this:

Ground Team Stays Busy on 10th Anniversary of NASA Mars Launch

Ten year after launch, there is some trouble with a solar array motor and a comm problem probably resulting from this and entering safe mode. Nothing dramatic yet, but something to follow closely.

There are other things than MRO and MER smile.gifsmile.gif

Analyst
PhilCo126
Well losing it wouldn't be good for the already loaded communications relays ... huh.gif
http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n0611/08mgs/
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tuvas
QUOTE (PhilCo126 @ Nov 9 2006, 12:52 PM) *
Well losing it wouldn't be good for the already loaded communications relays ... huh.gif
http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n0611/08mgs/
mars.gif


I would think it would help, one less mission to keep track of. Not that I'm saying I want MGS dead, just that if it were to be dead, it would make life easier for the DSN people.
ElkGroveDan
QUOTE (tuvas @ Nov 9 2006, 11:59 AM) *
I would think it would help, one less mission to keep track of. Not that I'm saying I want MGS dead, just that if it were to be dead, it would make life easier for the DSN people.

I bet Mike Caplinger would disagree with you.
tedstryk
It would be a real loss to have this happen now. With MARCI taking over the role that MOC's wide angle global images have filled for so long, it would be nice to have some overlapping coverage. Not to mention having TES and passive MOLA coverage overlapping MRO. And, as for MOC high resolution, the amount of the planet covered by MOC so far and what HIRISE can hope to cover is a small percentage, so more would be very helpful. I hope the mission continues until it either breaks down (lets hope it hasn't) or has instrument failures that render it useless.
Sunspot
http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn10...mars-probe.html

From reading this it seems that currently all communications have been lost and they don't know if it is in safe mode at all.

Interestingly they might try and observe MGS with MRO ohmy.gif
djellison
Well - it would be a very cool picture from HiRISE....but I hope we don't have to see it and that they can get MGS back online.

Doug
lyford
Or this could all be a plot to get an orbital portrait of MGS.... biggrin.gif
I agree with Doug, but almost hope that we get contact established just after the imaging:
"Never mind on that HiRiSE shot... what? Already taken? Just put it over there on the front page of the NASA portal then..." tongue.gif
tuvas
I'm impressed with this news source, after hearing about it, I looked in the archives to see if we had been contacted about the possibility, it hasn't been for very long that it has been the case... But, HiRISE has been contacted in some kind of official capacity to perhaps image MGS, all I can say is, it would be quite a trick... Not only for it's dificultly, but also it's timing. Still it would be cool;-) We're already the first to photograph a rover on another planet that's confirmed beyond anyone's doubt, why not add a satellite to the mix (Which I do recall has been done).
elakdawalla
Indeed it has been done -- one of the many landmark accomplishments of MGS.
http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/05/19/

--Emily
ElkGroveDan
QUOTE (tuvas @ Nov 9 2006, 05:47 PM) *
We're already the first to photograph a rover on another planet that's confirmed beyond anyone's doubt

How could there be any doubt with MOC image below, especially since Opportunity's EXACT position at the time was known?



http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/01/24/
tuvas
QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Nov 9 2006, 09:04 PM) *
How could there be any doubt with MOC image below, especially since Opportunity's EXACT position at the time was known?

http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/01/24/


I stand corrected, but we do still have the best picture ;-)
Analyst
Better see a mission end this way than by a shortage of funding. Even better to see it going on.

Analyst
slinted
To head off any freak-out about the potential impact on the MER relays, keep in mind that MGS is doing only minor relay duty compared to Mars Odyssey. I don't know if more recent data has been published, but as of January 05, only 7% of the rover data came down through MGS ( see "The Care and Feeding of the MER GDS")
djellison
As I understand it - relays are JUST Odyssey now and have been for a long time...i.e. MGS stopped doing relay before the first solar conjunction.

Meanwhile from New Scientist

"If the spacecraft does not receive commands from Earth for seven days in a row, it is programmed to stop whatever it is doing and try to transmit a signal to Earth using its high gain antenna. This could happen at about 0014 GMT on Friday (1614 PST on Thursday), so NASA will be listening for a signal from MGS's high gain antenna at that time."

http://space.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/wspace?t...=1&showsc=1

That would have been a Canberra pass.

Doug
volcanopele
QUOTE (djellison @ Nov 10 2006, 05:37 AM) *
"If the spacecraft does not receive commands from Earth for seven days in a row, it is programmed to stop whatever it is doing and try to transmit a signal to Earth using its high gain antenna. This could happen at about 0014 GMT on Friday (1614 PST on Thursday), so NASA will be listening for a signal from MGS's high gain antenna at that time."

http://space.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/wspace?t...=1&showsc=1

That would have been a Canberra pass.

Doug

AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! So that what my problem is!!!
djellison
Oh boy.....and we thought Jason hated Mars before...... smile.gif

Doug
ugordan
Please don't tell me the Cassini periapsis data is being trashed for MGS contingency operations!
djellison
I'm sure somewhere someone's thinking "well - that makes us even for when Cassini took our DSN time when it had a problem"

smile.gif

Doug
nprev
So no news from the Canberra pass? sad.gif
volcanopele
QUOTE (ugordan @ Nov 10 2006, 09:10 AM) *
Please don't tell me the Cassini periapsis data is being trashed for MGS contingency operations!

I think so.
Sunspot
Maybe that's why there hasn't been any new images from Opportunity for about 48 hours too.
djellison
I'm not sure this should be impacting other Mars ops (it may be though...perhaps for AM DFE Uplinks?)

MRO has been busy getting uplinks from the ground :

CODE
0846955496:8 2006-306T17:24:38 ri2832 d:/seq/ssr_patch_load                    RELATV 59734C99
0846957409:8 2006-306T17:56:31 ri3294 d:/seq/d_seq_fs8477_pre_install          RELATV 76DA90B4
0846962269:8 2006-306T19:17:31 ri2010 d:/seq/cmic_install_c1a                  RELATV EDA73776
0846962834:8 2006-306T19:26:56 ri2011 d:/seq/cmic_install_c2a                  RELATV 794BDE45
0846963083:8 2006-306T19:31:05 ri3295 d:/seq/d_seq_fs8477_install              RELATV 20D3225E
0846963641:8 2006-306T19:40:23 ri2012 d:/seq/cmic_install_c1b                  RELATV 8D52E268
0846963800:8 2006-306T19:43:02 ri2833 d:/seq/ssr_patch_install                 RELATV 990A0299
0846964222:8 2006-306T19:50:04 ri2013 d:/seq/cmic_install_c2b                  RELATV F6F3EF04
0846965371:8 2006-306T20:09:13 ri3299 d:/seq/special_shr_tlm_start             RELATV 71EF60E0
0846968988:8 2006-306T21:09:30 ri3296 d:/seq/d_seq_fs8477_cleanup              RELATV C7D000A0
0846969171:8 2006-306T21:12:33 ri3196 d:/seq/ssr_patch_mod_checksum            RELATV  866AEFC
0847057977:8 2006-307T21:52:39 ri3452 d:/seq/mcs_scan_mer_relay                ABSLTE A111D834
0847058078:8 2006-307T21:54:20 ri2593 d:/seq/d_pat_fs7782_cleanup              RELATV C2EEE77F
0847313015:8 2006-310T20:43:17 ri3423 d:/seq/mcs_frz_mer_relay                 ABSLTE FFC5C6D9
0847396357:8 2006-311T19:52:19 ri3460 d:/seq/psp_itl_init_001_1a               RELATV FEEAA81F
0847402100:8 2006-311T21:28:02 ri3468 d:/seq/conjunct_deconfig                 RELATV DD892AFF
0847403060:8 2006-311T21:44:02 ri3466 d:/seq/marci_dma_checkout                RELATV 57DBBCCB
0847500901:8 2006-313T00:54:43 ri3414 d:/seq/flat_field_cal_desat              ABSLTE 671D3E49
0847501410:8 2006-313T01:03:12 ri3485 d:/seq/delete_hir_mods_lgo               RELATV CC601643
0847501619:8 2006-313T01:06:41 ri3484 d:/seq/mcs_flat_field_seq                ABSLTE 9E42E171


And infact - you can see a huge swathe of MGS uplinks just today...
CODE
  mi2142 94 STLGT1 2006-314T01:41:04.8 2006-314T01:41:44.7 Radiated
  mi1523 94 STRPAN 2006-314T01:41:56.0 2006-314T01:42:35.9 Radiated
  mi2142 94 STLGT1 2006-314T02:20:25.4 2006-314T02:21:05.3 Radiated
  mi1523 94 STRPAN 2006-314T02:21:20.4 2006-314T02:22:00.3 Radiated
  mi2132 94 STLGT2 2006-314T03:39:15.4 2006-314T03:39:55.3 Radiated
  mi1523 94 STRPAN 2006-314T03:40:14.1 2006-314T03:40:54.0 Radiated
  mi2132 94 STLGT2 2006-314T04:17:58.8 2006-314T04:18:38.8 Radiated
  mi1523 94 STRPAN 2006-314T04:18:52.4 2006-314T04:19:32.4 Radiated
  mi2142 94 STLGT1 2006-314T05:36:49.8 2006-314T05:37:29.8 Radiated
  mi1523 94 STRPAN 2006-314T05:37:45.5 2006-314T05:38:25.4 Radiated
  mi2142 94 STLGT1 2006-314T06:15:39.8 2006-314T06:16:19.7 Radiated
  mi1523 94 STRPAN 2006-314T06:16:38.4 2006-314T06:17:18.3 Radiated
  mi2123 94 SRSM2N 2006-314T08:15:22.4 2006-314T08:16:02.3 Radiated
  mi1523 94 STRPAN 2006-314T08:16:31.5 2006-314T08:17:11.4 Radiated
  mi2142 94 STLGT1 2006-314T09:32:33.4 2006-314T09:33:13.3 Radiated
  mi1523 94 STRPAN 2006-314T09:33:56.6 2006-314T09:34:36.5 Radiated
  mi2142 94 STLGT1 2006-314T10:14:28.4 2006-314T10:15:08.3 Radiated
  mi1523 94 STRPAN 2006-314T10:15:48.1 2006-314T10:16:28.1 Radiated
  mi2132 94 STLGT2 2006-314T11:29:04.4 2006-314T11:29:44.3 Radiated
  mi1523 94 STRPAN 2006-314T11:30:22.8 2006-314T11:31:02.7 Radiated
  mi2132 94 STLGT2 2006-314T12:09:26.4 2006-314T12:10:06.3 Radiated
  mi1523 94 STRPAN 2006-314T12:11:10.6 2006-314T12:11:50.5 Radiated
  mi2142 94 STLGT1 2006-314T13:27:16.4 2006-314T13:27:56.3 Radiated
  mi1523 94 STRPAN 2006-314T13:28:39.1 2006-314T13:29:19.0 Radiated
  mi2142 94 STLGT1 2006-314T14:06:55.4 2006-314T14:07:35.3 Radiated
  mi1523 94 STRPAN 2006-314T14:08:27.4 2006-314T14:09:07.3 Radiated
  mi2132 94 STLGT2 2006-314T15:25:51.4 2006-314T15:26:31.3 Radiated
  mi1523 94 STRPAN 2006-314T15:26:57.3 2006-314T15:27:37.3 Radiated

Mars Odyssey is also getting Uplink...

CODE
  cn2031 53        FILE_LOAD 2006-311T22:06:26.8 2006-311T22:06:28.1 Radiated
  cn2031 53        FILE_LOAD 2006-311T22:06:28.1 2006-311T22:06:29.5 Radiated
  cn2031 53        FILE_LOAD 2006-311T22:06:29.5 2006-311T22:06:30.8 Radiated
  cn2031 53        FILE_LOAD 2006-311T22:06:30.8 2006-311T22:06:32.1 Radiated
  cn2031 53        FILE_LOAD 2006-311T22:06:32.1 2006-311T22:06:33.4 Radiated
  cn2031 53        FILE_LOAD 2006-311T22:06:33.4 2006-311T22:06:34.7 Radiated
  cn2031 53        FILE_LOAD 2006-311T22:06:34.7 2006-311T22:06:36.0 Radiated
  cn2031 53        FILE_LOAD 2006-311T22:06:36.0 2006-311T22:06:36.3 Radiated
  cn2031 53        FILE_COPY 2006-311T22:06:36.6 2006-311T22:06:37.1 Radiated
  cn2031 53      FILE_DELETE 2006-311T22:06:37.1 2006-311T22:06:37.5 Radiated
  cn2031 53 THEMIS_FILE_LOAD 2006-311T22:06:37.5 2006-311T22:06:37.8 Radiated
  ce2632 53  FSW_OBJ_INITIAL 2006-312T09:07:04.6 2006-312T09:07:05.1 Radiated
  ce2632 53  FSW_OBJ_INITIAL 2006-312T15:40:39.2 2006-312T15:40:39.8 Radiated
  ce2629 53  FSW_OBJ_INITIAL 2006-312T18:44:48.6 2006-312T18:44:49.1 Radiated
  ce2632 53  FSW_OBJ_INITIAL 2006-312T19:33:54.6 2006-312T19:33:55.1 Radiated
  ce2634 53  FSW_OBJ_INITIAL 2006-312T22:31:37.8 2006-312T22:31:38.4 Radiated
  ce2632 53  FSW_OBJ_INITIAL 2006-313T07:46:20.5 2006-313T07:46:21.1 Radiated
  ce2632 53  FSW_OBJ_INITIAL 2006-314T13:47:52.5 2006-314T13:47:53.1 Radiated
  cn2032 53        FILE_LOAD 2006-314T13:54:31.2 2006-314T13:54:32.5 Radiated
  cn2032 53        FILE_LOAD 2006-314T13:54:32.5 2006-314T13:54:33.8 Radiated
  cn2032 53        FILE_LOAD 2006-314T13:54:33.8 2006-314T13:54:35.1 Radiated
  cn2032 53        FILE_LOAD 2006-314T13:54:35.1 2006-314T13:54:36.4 Radiated
  cn2032 53        FILE_LOAD 2006-314T13:54:36.4 2006-314T13:54:37.7 Radiated
  cn2032 53        FILE_LOAD 2006-314T13:54:37.7 2006-314T13:54:39.1 Radiated
  cn2032 53        FILE_LOAD 2006-314T13:54:39.1 2006-314T13:54:40.4 Radiated
  cn2032 53        FILE_LOAD 2006-314T13:54:40.4 2006-314T13:54:41.6 Radiated
  cn2032 53        FILE_COPY 2006-314T13:54:41.9 2006-314T13:54:42.4 Radiated
  cn2032 53      FILE_DELETE 2006-314T13:54:42.4 2006-314T13:54:42.8 Radiated


Today is 2006-314 (currently 16:48)

Several uplinks have been sent to MGS..I've found what they are by googling around a little
STLGT1 : Swith to Low Gain Antenna 1 for Transmit.
STRPAN : Turn TWTA beam on
STLGT2 : Switch to LGA 2 for Transmit.

The fact that they cycle through them again and again is perhaps suggestive that they're not getting anything sensible back?


Doug
ugordan
QUOTE (volcanopele @ Nov 10 2006, 05:23 PM) *
I think so.

!%$R#%&$%/% !!!!!
Any possibility to stop Cassini from overwriting them and replay them later?
volcanopele
QUOTE (ugordan @ Nov 10 2006, 09:57 AM) *
!%$R#%&$%/% !!!!!
Any possibility to stop Cassini from overwriting them and replay them later?

Yes. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

All is well. Though still, giant laser...MGS...
Analyst
If I remember correctly they can communicate with more than one spacecraft at Mars using the same DSN dish because the antenna beam covers the whole Mars disk and beyond.

As for Cassini: It is a normal procedure that a spacecraft emergency gets priority over normal (Cassini) operations. The same about primary vs. extended missions and manned vs. unmanned missions. It's the way it should be. If they have exhausted their options, MGS is declared lost, not before.

Analyst
nprev
QUOTE (volcanopele @ Nov 10 2006, 09:25 AM) *
Yes. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

All is well. Though still, giant laser...MGS...


Funny you should mention lasers, VP...perhaps the cancellation of the Mars Telecommunications Orbiter should be reconsidered. Lasercomm would be independent of the DSN, and free up resources.

(Yeah, I knew what you meant, though...bad planetary scientist, bad!) laugh.gif
ugordan
QUOTE (djellison @ Nov 10 2006, 05:13 PM) *
I'm sure somewhere someone's thinking "well - that makes us even for when Cassini took our DSN time when it had a problem"

Touche! smile.gif

QUOTE (Analyst @ Nov 10 2006, 06:33 PM) *
It is a normal procedure that a spacecraft emergency gets priority over normal (Cassini) operations. The same about primary vs. extended missions and manned vs. unmanned missions. It's the way it should be. If they have exhausted their options, MGS is declared lost, not before.

Oh, I'm perfectly aware of that and I'm not bitchslapping the DSN network for choosing recovery over data playback. It's just that it seemed to happen after a more interesting periapsis pass for Cassini that I find an unlucky coincidence.

Unlucky coincidences are what I hate. mad.gif
volcanopele
yeah, there are contingency plans (woohoo for that). And I hope MGS is recovered, sooner rather than later. I guess it just annoying, that's all.
djellison
CODE
  mi2128 94 SRSWTB 2006-314T17:31:14.4 2006-314T17:31:54.3 Radiated
  mi2128 94 SRSWTB 2006-314T18:12:24.0 2006-314T18:13:03.9 Radiated


SRSWTB - no idea what that is but it's something different than the rest of the day. Twice within 42 minutes...perhaps they're trying to schedule repeated commands at times when predicts would put LGA's at a more optimal position.

Doug
Analyst
SWTB - Solar Array Wing tip brake?
SR - Switch ...??
djellison
Just for fun, probably highly inaccurate...if they DO do HiRISE imaging...I've seen figures of 100km smacked around which would be approx 10cm/pixel....so here's a couple of simulated views using ye-olde VRML model that's online if you google for it.

Doug
akuo
You have to remember, MGS might be out of HiRise's focus at 100km. Though the focus is adjustable, I don't know if its this much adjustable, and whether they would do a major adjust right at the beginning of the PSP.

Should still look pretty good.
djellison
Two more of whatever those things were...followed by two SCGNT :

CODE
  mi2128 94 SRSWTB 2006-314T19:29:16.4 2006-314T19:29:56.3 Radiated
  mi2128 94 SRSWTB 2006-314T20:09:08.8 2006-314T20:09:48.7 Radiated
  mi2177 94 SCGCNT 2006-314T21:26:58.4 2006-314T21:27:38.3 Radiated
  mi2177 94 SCGCNT 2006-314T22:07:39.4 2006-314T22:08:19.3 Radiated


Doug
tuvas
Doug,

Where do you get that kind of info? Just curious...

Anyways, unless something drastic happens, it's looking more likely like JPL will have to take more drastic options to try and find MGS, feel free to use your imagination. Also note that everything public about the possibility of MRO photographic MGS mentions MRO, no specific instruments were mentioned.
jamescanvin
Have we gone past the 7 days out of contact yet?

It still seems likely to me that MGS is happily pointing her arrays at the sun and waiting for 7 days before attempting to contact Earth through the HGA, as she is programmed to do in safe mode.
Bubbinski
Does this "radiation log" mean MGS is still alive?? Have they regained contact? Let's hope so!
djellison
It doesn't really tell us anything to be honest - it's guess work at best, but it's a list of the sequences being sent TO the spacecraft, not ones being recieved from it....and the same sequence being sent many times over would be suggestive (I would have thought) of an unresponsive spacecraft.

Lots more commands radiated overnight, including....

Reset a sun-angle timer to a different time.
that's looped a few times, and then

Turn on telementry modulation
Switch that to 10bps
then that gets looped a couple of times

They've radiated 50 commands in the last 24 hours.

Doug
Analyst
It's only guessing, and I guess they have not got telemetry back because almost every block of commands ends with "Turn on TWTA". Without a working TWTA you can't get telemetry.

Analyst
djellison
Well - we've had this loop of 5 commands

CODE
mi2148 94 CXSPG1 2006-315T04:00:33.3 2006-315T04:01:13.2 Radiated
  mi2149 94 CXSPG2 2006-315T04:01:31.3 2006-315T04:02:11.3 Radiated
  mi2150 94 TCM1MN 2006-315T04:02:31.4 2006-315T04:03:11.3 Radiated
  mi2151 94 TCM2MN 2006-315T04:03:47.4 2006-315T04:04:27.3 Radiated
  mi1523 94 STRPAN 2006-315T04:05:37.7 2006-315T04:06:17.7 Radiated


And it was run at.....

04:00
05:18
05:58
07:58
09:13
09:53
11:12
11:51
13:09
13:55

That's time gaps of... 78,50,120,75,40,79,39, 78 and 46 minutes. basically cycling between 80 ish and 50ish with one odd one ( perhaps a DSN handover) looks to me like they're trying at the two 'sides' of the orbit with 80ish mins being hte visible time and 40 mins being the occulted time.

Unfortunately, space.jpl.nasa.gov doesn't include Mars spacecraft in orbit, and http://mars1.jpl.nasa.gov/mgs/realtime/mgs1.jpg is very very broken sad.gif
Doug
Analyst
There are small variations in this 5 command pattern lately.

Could it be that MGS is in a command loss routine, switching (by itself) between different hardware components with the goal to deselect a failed one and doing this until one of the commands sent here again and again comes through?

Analyst
Bubbinski
Yikes...thanks for the answers. Guess we'll be waiting for the Hirise picture of MGS to tell us more. If this truly is the end, then let's salute MGS for a decade of service over Mars and a job well done.
djellison
My best efforts in understanding what the sequences are is limited - but there are specific, multiple references to some of them...

CXSPG1 and 2 are "Set the modulation index for 10 bps data rate" on both Box Sides XSU1 and 2.
The XSU's are cross strap units for routing telemetry to the SSR's or Telecoms.

TCM1MN and TCM2MN turns telemetry modulation on for MOT 1 and 2
The MOT's are Mars Orbiter Transponders

STRPAN turns on the TWTA.

To try and put it all in to context - attached is an extract from http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/mgs/pdf/SE012V1.PDF

I wish someone from the MGS team would do a HiBlog type effort sad.gif The money just isn't around for good outreach with the older missions I guess.

Doug


mcaplinger
QUOTE (djellison @ Nov 11 2006, 11:36 AM) *
I wish someone from the MGS team would do a HiBlog type effort sad.gif The money just isn't around for good outreach with the older missions I guess.

So which did you want, good outreach or a HiBlog type effort? smile.gif

Seriously, if somebody was blogging instead of working on recovering the spacecraft, I'd fire their ass.

You're doing just about as good a job with the radiation log as I could; I hope they don't yank it off the web. I am not empowered to discuss spacecraft operations publicly; inquiries have to be directed to JPL.

MGS is either power-positive right now, in which case we will get it back eventually, or it's not, in which case it's dead and gone. Not much else to explain.
ElkGroveDan
Thanks for weighing in Mike. Anything you can share with us as events transpire would be appreciated. Even just a quick posting of an emoticon when you get some news.
climber
I think I get the point from Mike and had not doubt they try the maximum.
Nevertheless, I'd like also to point out how badly needed are Doug's updates. Once you're on UMSF, you realise that you're not alone to consider Spacecrafts as an entity you're familiar with. They're not "persons" but they're no longer inert objects, they definitively have a kind of soul.
So, when something go wrong, you WANT to know and since the Internet exist you can actualy try to look for news...and soon you realise that the best place is here, at UMSF. This is because all of us share the same passion for the adventure/exploration AND because we know that some of us are ABLE to find the place where the information is.
OK, we only talk to MGS with no reply so far and, as Mike says, it's either power positive or not, but knowing what JPL does is badly needed. Just think about how we'll be the day when the first rover will not show anymore. Are you gona give up the first day or switch to the other one and try to forget? I don't think so, and I'm sure the new trait called "xxx doesn't respond anymore" will have more hit everyday than all the other traits of UMSF and this will be untill JPL Officialy give up.
Thanks again Doug for your dedication and thanks to Mike to give us your insider view. I back you guys.
djellison
Well - reading the logs from overnight - there were about four hours of a different commanding sequence which included two references to the HGA (I can't see the sequences defined anywhere unfortunately) but since then - it's been the same CXSPG1, CXSPG2,TCM1MN,TCM2MN, STRPAN. If I had to guess a diagnosis - I'd say that they tried something different (perhaps based on predicts of spacecraft attitude) , had no results, and then resorted to the baseline sequencing.

Thanks for the input Mike - as with all such things the longer we know nothing the worse the situation seems.

Doug
diane
Keeping in mind that SOHO was out of service for more than a year, let's keep in mind that many things are still possible.

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/operations/Recovery/
djellison
Well - no updates to the log for 14 hours....most likely reason being that the script that adds things to the log is either broken, or intentionally turned off.

Doug
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