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Rakhir
SELENE has now a nickname : KAGUYA.
http://www.jaxa.jp/topics/2007/06_e.html

Edit :
And Emily searched for the origin of the name
http://www.planetary.org/blog/article/00000996/
Stephen
QUOTE (Rakhir @ Jun 7 2007, 06:29 AM) *
SELENE has now a nickname : KAGUYA.
http://www.jaxa.jp/topics/2007/06_e.html

Edit :
And Emily searched for the origin of the name
http://www.planetary.org/blog/article/00000996/

I notice that the blog writer Leonard David at livescience.com has come to a similar conclusion. He points out that the name "Kaguya" is from an ancient Japanese tale 'Taketori Monogatari' - the tale of the Bamboo-Cutter which involves Princess Kaguya, the Moon Princess."

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Stephen
AlexBlackwell
Kaguya Approaches Launch
By Yasunori Matogawa
June 18, 2007
Zvezdichko
How are they going to insert this into polar orbit? Given the mass of the hardware and to capabilities of the rocket I don't see how they are going to achieve this.
mchan
The Moon's gravity can be used to effect the plane change for entering a polar orbit around the Moon.
spdf
Seems like the new launch date is September 13. So not a big delay for Kaguya. (But already very hostile press blink.gif )
elakdawalla
Is there a source somewhere on the Internet for that date? (Even if it's in Japanese?)

--Emily
spdf
sorry I forgot:
for the September 13 date:
http://msdb.honeywell-tsi.com/launches.asp

also JAXA released a small report which says they pushed the launch to September since they need around one month of repair.: http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/07/20070725_sac_kaguya.pdf
So this not such a big delay.
nop
http://msdb.honeywell-tsi.com/missioninfo....n=SELENE/Kaguya
QUOTE
NET 9/13/2007, 0135:47Z

FYI, Note that it's Not Earlier Than 9/13/2007.
The new launch window for KAGUYA is 9/13/2007-9/21/2007.
(anyway, Sept. 13 is the most probable day, I think.)
monitorlizard
The nice thing about lunar missions is that if you miss a launch window, you only have to wait a month for the next one to come along.
elakdawalla
Lots of photos of Kaguya being prepped for launch:

http://jda.jaxa.jp/jda/p3_e.php?time=N&...mp;mission=4067

(Want to blog these but Cassini has to stop sending so many great photos from Iapetus first!)

--Emily
GravityWaves
It will be delayed by a day due to bad weather, new launch date from Tanegashima is Sep. 14 Friday
punkboi
A little more than 5 hours before launch... Godspeed, Kaguya!
Zvezdichko
Rock the Moon and roll to Mars smile.gif

This message may be flying today smile.gif
nprev
I don't suppose anyone knows of a live link for the launch...? Don't know if JAXA customarily does this or not.
lyford
http://www.jaxa.jp/countdown/f13/live/index_e.html
It's there somewheres.... smile.gif
Sorry

This is it:

http://www.jaxa.jp/countdown/f13/live/weblive_e.html

No word if Lipovitan will sponsor coverage.
nprev
...thanks, Ly, and wouldn't you know it: I just found it & was coming back to post that same link! biggrin.gif (I gotta be less lazy...)

Coverage should start approx. 45 minutes from now (currently 2349 GMT 13 Sept).

EDIT: Kaguya coverage is live now here! Can't understand a syllable except for "hai", but GO KAGUYA!!!!!

First time I've missed the ex in awhile...she could've translated!

EDIT2: Wow...they just showed a shot of what appeared to be a crowd of people in a shopping mall or something watching the coverage on a big TV...seems as if there's a lot of domestic public interest, which is always great to see!

EDIT3: She's up!!! SWEET launch so far...most beautiful launch site ever on a wave-breaking beach, and the high temp (29 deg C) plus undoubtedly high humidity produced this amazing shockwave donut of condensation around the payload fairing that stretched & transformed into a cylinder during max Q...really remarkable, never seen the like before. That H-2 has some serious juice! External cam showed the horizon of the Earth briefly, then cut to commentators...so far, running sweet & true.
elakdawalla
It's up! I blogged what I could from the English translation.. Now I have to go put the baby to bed. If anybody sees anything new on the status can you please please post it here?

--Emily
Airbag
10:20 PM EDT: Payload separation!

Airbag
elakdawalla
...and that's it for the commentary. Nothing new on the launch site home page yet. Cherilynn has promised me updates and pictures from Tokyo, though, so hopefully tonight or tomorrow I'll have more...

--Emily
Airbag
Got to love that low-tech approach to illustrating the launch vehicle's progress on the broadcast - a hand held clipboard with stickers for each phase (e.g. 1st stage separation) that were peeled away one by one!

Airbag
elakdawalla
That was pretty funny. It was a bit Python-esque -- for reasons I can't quite explain, it reminded me of the French Sheep sketch.

And when they were outside, with the hardhats, it reminded me of Japanese game shows -- I kept expecting one of the men to suddenly have to go through some "challenge."

There's something about Japan that gets utterly lost upon translation to English. Beyond foreign, it's alien. I know there are some Japanese readers of this forum -- I would love to know from one of them if Americans appear inexplicable and alien to you. And -- are Europeans less so? Or more so?

--Emily
lyford

biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
Anybody know what the little orange bobbing head guy on the bottom left was? Jaxa Mascot? Generic Cute Japanese Icon?
Subaru
QUOTE (lyford @ Sep 14 2007, 01:05 PM) *
[img]Anybody know what the little orange bobbing head guy on the bottom left was? Jaxa Mascot? Generic Cute Japanese Icon?


Nohohon zoku.
... Ah, my English is poor to explain it. See Wikipedia, sorry. sad.gif
Zvezdichko
When are these two orbits going to be completed and when the lunar injection burn is going to occur?
Toma B
Is there a replay of that spectacular launch somewhere?
Zvezdichko
Yes, it's available on nasaspaceflight.com
Pedro_Sondas
Hi!

This is the video of the JAXA program for the Selene launch:

http://www.sondasespaciales.com/public/arc...7%20-%20Jai.asf

(311 MB - ASF)

The flag: 0h5m30sec laugh.gif
Launch with a looooooong countdown: 0h47m (poor quality) mad.gif
Launch Replay: 1h36m (good quality) tongue.gif

Hai-counter now in: 3827 blink.gif
SpaceListener
Will Kaguya arrive at Moon within 3 days? Haven't found the Kaguya's mission timing. sad.gif
jabe
from Spaceflightnow article

QUOTE
SELENE will fire its largest thruster to propel itself toward the moon after completing two-and-a-half circuits around Earth. The probe will slip into an initial elliptical polar orbit around the moon about 20 days after launch, according to JAXA spokesman Satoki Kurokawa.

I can't wait for the HD camera pics of earth rise smile.gif
cheers
jb
nop
QUOTE (lyford @ Sep 14 2007, 08:39 AM) *
No word if Lipovitan will sponsor coverage.


In the unofficial webcast presented by CASTY, I saw Dr. Terazono (known as the Hayabusa Lipovitan-D blogger) was drinking a bottle of Lipovitan-D biggrin.gif

Since Lipovitan-D sensation at UMSF.com in Hayabusa touchdown, this drink unofficially emblematizes Japanese space missions. Here I show a capture from the CASTY unofficial webcast in the launch of SOLAR-B/Hinode last year; you can see Dr. Terazono was drinking it tongue.gif
http://photo.mywiki.jp/hayabusafan/5601/20...09-4caca34e.jpg
nop
QUOTE (SpaceListener @ Sep 14 2007, 11:05 PM) *
Will Kaguya arrive at Moon within 3 days? Haven't found the Kaguya's mission timing. sad.gif


FYI, the time format is in UTC. Stay tuned smile.gif

Lift-off 14 Sept 01:31:01
SSB Ignition 14 Sept 01:31:11
SSB Burnout 14 Sept 01:32:09
SSB Jettison 14 Sept 01:32:31
SRB-A Burnout 14 Sept 01:32:56
SRB-A Jettison 14 Sept 01:33:06
Fearing Jettison 14 Sept 01:35:26
MECO 14 Sept 01:37:41
1st/2nd stages seperation 14 Sept 01:37:49
SEIG 1 14 Sept 01:37:55
SECO 1 14 Sept 01:43:08
SEIG 2 14 Sept 02:11:34
SECO 2 14 Sept 02:15:03
SELENE Seperation 14 Sept 02:16:33
Sun Acquisition 14 Sept 02:21:01
Solar Array Paddle Deploy 14 Sept 03:31:01
3-Axes Control 14 Sept 03:36:01
HGA Deploy 14 Sept 07:09:01
Communication Link Establishment 14 Sept 08:26:01
Injection Error Correction Manueuver 14 Sept 20:11:01
Adjustment Maneuver of Revolution Period 19 Sept 00:46:01
LOI Conditions Adjusting Maneuver 30 Sept 18:56:01
Lunar Polar Orbit Insertion (LOI) 3 Oct 21:01:01
Relay Sat Release 9 Oct 00:46:01
VRAD Sat Release 14 Oct 05:37:01
Observation Phase 21 Oct 10:27:01
SpaceListener
Thanks Nop for good detail.

I see that Kaguya will travel slower to Moon than Apollo. This is for the cheapest travel to Moon without has to much acceleration and breaking. Anyway, the time will fly fast. wink.gif
lyford
thanks nop and subaru for the inside scoop -
and godspeed, princess!
punkboi
QUOTE
Will Kaguya arrive at Moon within 3 days? Haven't found the Kaguya's mission timing.


Kaguya will take around 19 days to reach the Moon, 37 days till it settles into its final, 100 km high orbit.
punkboi
HIGH GAIN ANTENNA DEPLOYMENT (In-flight image taken of HGA!)

http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/09/20070915_kaguya_e.html

SOLAR PANEL DEPLOYMENT (In-flight image taken of "Paddle"!)

http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/09/20070915_kaguya-2_e.html
Zvezdichko
QUOTE (SpaceListener @ Sep 14 2007, 04:15 PM) *
I see that Kaguya will travel slower to Moon than Apollo. This is for the cheapest travel to Moon without has to much acceleration and breaking. Anyway, the time will fly fast. wink.gif


I think we are going to a wrong route if we compare Apollo and Kaguya. Yet, managers plan to take "Earthrise photos" and these pictures will be as spectacular as the "Earthrise photo" taken by Apollo 8 astronauts.
ugordan
I expect the images (and HDTV movies) of such scenes to be even more spectacular than what was possible in the late 1960s. Of course, this all depends on how compressed, well exposed etc. the imagery will be. I'm looking forward to that.
Zvezdichko
Any news on the first manuevre?
nop
QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ Sep 16 2007, 05:17 PM) *
Any news on the first manuevre?


According to releases (in Japanese, sorry),
http://www.jaxa.jp/countdown/f13/topics/pd..._0030_vc1_j.pdf
http://www.jaxa.jp/countdown/f13/topics/pd..._0227_va1_j.pdf
injection error correction maneuver (delta-Vc1) was successfully executed.
Apogee 232,782km
Perigee 956km
Period 4d23h37m

Next maneuver (Delta-Va1) was scheduled on 8:00am Sept 16 (JST).
We've heard no news about it yet, but no news must be a good news. I hope her success smile.gif
punkboi
Where is Kaguya? "It is in the position of present KAGUYA."

http://www.selene.jaxa.jp/en/communication/position_e.htm

Makes you appreciate JPL's Solar System Simulator a lot more. laugh.gif
volcanopele
nop, do you know if Kaguya will acquire approach imagery as it nears the Moon? Would be interesting to see how image products will looks from this spacecraft with science target, not hardware (though those images are pretty cool, don't get me wrong).
nop
QUOTE (volcanopele @ Sep 17 2007, 03:08 PM) *
nop, do you know if Kaguya will acquire approach imagery as it nears the Moon? Would be interesting to see how image products will looks from this spacecraft with science target, not hardware (though those images are pretty cool, don't get me wrong).

Sorry, volcanopele, I have no information about it. But I'm sure that JAXA will release some moon images on the way, as past spacecrafts (Hiten, Nozomi and Hayabusa) have provided us a lot of images when approaching the moon, the earth and the asteroid.
Stay tuned for further updates.


FYI, the maneuver Delta-Va1 was successfully executed yesterday and now Kaguya is fine.
Phil Stooke
Do we have any information about end of mission scenarios? At least the main spacecraft, and eventually the subsatellites, should impact as the orbits evolve and are not maintained. The subsatellites are probably not controllable to target an impact as SMART-1 was targeted, but the main spacecraft could be controlled.

I only live for points on a map.

Phil
ugordan
QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Sep 17 2007, 10:41 PM) *
I only live for points on a map.

That's good, you should put that in your sig. wink.gif
PhilHorzempa
We are now about 5 days away from LOI for Kaguya. I want to note
that we are in the last few days of an historic period - a time when
there are no active man-made devices operating on, or near, the Moon.
Once Kaguya enters lunar orbit, I believe that we will be starting an era
when there will ALWAYS be a functioning representative of mankind at
the Moon, either manned or unmanned. We are about to enter a new epoch,
one in which mankind has a permanent presence at the Moon. Unless something
drastic occurs, I foresee no gaps in this lunar presence for the next several
centuries, perhaps for the next several millenia.

It all starts in a few days.

Another Phil
nprev
smile.gif ...terrific sentiment. I hope it's true.
SpaceListener
Would like to know about how fast will Kaguya be approaching to the Moon at the LOI point. How long will the engines be firing during the orbit injection?
jabe
QUOTE (PhilHorzempa @ Sep 28 2007, 04:42 PM) *
We are about to enter a new epoch, one in which mankind has a permanent presence at the Moon.


What i find amazing is that this can be said for Mars as well, and that started quietly 10 years ago!! I never thought that Surveyor back in '96 would be the start of a continous presence at Mars. If we don't have a rover/satellite/weather station/lander/ etc on Mars running at any one time or another I'd be dissappointed. It is a remarkable time. I teach high school physics and just before the first ISS crew went up I mentioned to my classes that this could be the last time that humans are NOT up in space. I don't think they appreciated what that could mean for them..

I hope that with the Moon being a more "realistic" target, it will get the general public more intrigued and realize that times are changing..how much so we will see... As well This doesn't take into account private space tourism.. Virgin galatic, bigelow etc..

Can't wait for the HD pics to come down of earth rise smile.gif
Go SELENE!!!
jb
Phil Stooke
http://www.jaxa.jp/countdown/f13/index_e.html

Orbit adjustment on the second orbit.

Phil
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