briv1016
Nov 7 2009, 04:13 PM
5 downsampled navcam frames from sol 2078 are down. Someone might want to make an animation.
fredk
Nov 7 2009, 04:35 PM
Tesheiner
Nov 7 2009, 04:37 PM
QUOTE (briv1016 @ Nov 7 2009, 05:13 PM)
5 downsampled navcam frames from sol 2078 are down. Someone might want to make an animation.
Here is it.
Click to view attachmentOriginals:
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/navcam/2009-11-07/I thought they were still dealing with the flash memory problems...
centsworth_II
Nov 7 2009, 04:47 PM
QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Nov 7 2009, 11:37 AM)
I thought they were still dealing with the flash memory problems...
I guess Spirit can walk and chew gum at the same time.
Great to see those moving pictures!
Tman
Nov 7 2009, 04:52 PM
Yikes! ...ok, keeping fingers crossed!
Here we go...
fredk
Nov 7 2009, 04:57 PM
I guess this is what Maxwell meant by his
cryptic comment:QUOTE
Squyres: "It's gonna be a long day in the jarosite mines today."
alan
Nov 7 2009, 05:51 PM
SFJCody
Nov 7 2009, 05:56 PM
QUOTE (fredk @ Nov 7 2009, 04:57 PM)
I guess this is what Maxwell meant by his
cryptic comment:Surely that must have been an Opportunity reference.
centsworth_II
Nov 7 2009, 06:10 PM
QUOTE (SFJCody @ Nov 7 2009, 12:56 PM)
Surely that must have been an Opportunity reference.
The jarosite reference doesn't necessarily narrow it down, but it seems like Oppy approaching yet another(!) mystery rock is just another day in Meridiani and not worthy of special comment by SS.
edit: Or, perhaps the comment is just in reference to the fact that for the first time in a long time both rovers will be moving. Or, SS says that all the time and Scott just decided to make note of it today. Such is the trouble with interpreting cryptic remarks (or cryptic postings of ordinary remarks).
imipak
Nov 7 2009, 06:55 PM
Great to see motion at the first attempt, and hopefully encouraging for the outcome. ISTR at Purgatory progress was glacial for many days. I wonder if/when/how often further MI imaging of the possible contact rock underneath Spirit will be done. Perhaps they might not be needed at all..?
Tesheiner
Nov 7 2009, 07:04 PM
QUOTE (imipak @ Nov 7 2009, 07:55 PM)
I wonder if/when/how often further MI imaging of the possible contact rock underneath Spirit will be done. Perhaps they might not be needed at all..?
One mars bar that they will image it again right after this first move.
sgendreau
Nov 7 2009, 07:09 PM
QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Nov 7 2009, 08:37 AM)
Here is it.
Come on, hon. Come on....
imipak
Nov 7 2009, 07:23 PM
Animation of the left rear hazcams...
Click to view attachment
Hungry4info
Nov 7 2009, 07:37 PM
*crosses fingers*
Please... please... get out of that crap!
Edit: What sol are these images from? I'm at
http://marsrovers.nasa.gov/gallery/all/spirit.html , and I'm not seeing the images you guys are posting.
Sunspot
Nov 7 2009, 07:48 PM
QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Nov 7 2009, 07:37 PM)
Edit: What sol are these images from? I'm at
http://marsrovers.nasa.gov/gallery/all/spirit.html , and I'm not seeing the images you guys are posting.
Spirit Images
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/Oppy Images:
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportunity/
fredk
Nov 7 2009, 08:03 PM
Here's a gamma-tweaked animation of the right rear hazcams from 2072 and 2078:
Click to view attachmentYou can see the LR wheel has been steered more straight, and presumably driven as well. Can't see the RR wheel. Front hazcams show RF wheel was steered straight as well.
I also would expect underbelly MI imaging. And also pancam images of the middle wheels.
nprev
Nov 7 2009, 08:09 PM
Hungry4info
Nov 7 2009, 08:36 PM
Thanks, Sunspot. =)
Yeah, I'm sure they'll image the underneath.
akuo
Nov 7 2009, 11:25 PM
Another momentous moment for the rovers. Good luck to RoverDriver and rest of the team!
lyford
Nov 8 2009, 12:56 AM
HughFromAlice
Nov 8 2009, 04:14 AM
Exciting to see at least some movement. It almost looks like we might be taking the forward option? From the data available it is hard to judge whether it is more probable that we will get out or not, but being an optimist I think we will eventually inch our way out in time to find a wintering place.
May interest some people ....... just posted a version 3 of the Sol 2002 (Aug21st) sunset movie on YouTube with the sun continuously tracking down to give a more realistic effect. Will do some final corrections/colour adjustments on a V4 soon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZtWGy0XcCQor type into search:- mars august sunset v3
fredk
Nov 8 2009, 04:30 AM
Maxwell tells us that this move only involved steering, not driving the wheels.
Juramike
Nov 8 2009, 04:33 AM
But we're movin'! It's all good!
serpens
Nov 8 2009, 07:25 AM
QUOTE (Juramike @ Nov 8 2009, 04:33 AM)
But we're movin'! It's all good!
But it looks as if the LR wheel sank further. Given Maxwell's indication that only steering was involved is the downwards movement really good?
Ant103
Nov 8 2009, 11:17 AM
Yes, she moves ! Happy to see that
I think it miss the FHC anim between Sol 2078 and 2079. Done
.
djellison
Nov 8 2009, 11:26 AM
QUOTE (serpens @ Nov 8 2009, 07:25 AM)
is the downwards movement really good?
We far far FAR too early in the extraction process ( step one of dozens and dozens and dozens of steps ) to say if it's good or not.
But it HAS started, and that's reason to be happy.
If you're going to be negative every time any motion doesn't correlate with your expectation of how things should or shouldn't go, you're going to go very very mad, very very quickly.
alan
Nov 8 2009, 02:18 PM
Downward movement when steering only would be expected as that's what happened when it was done previously (before they attempted a turn in place)
I recall roverdriver mentioned testing spinning the wheels while steering was tested to determine if it reduced the downward movement.
fredk
Nov 8 2009, 05:03 PM
So RF and LR wheels were steered on 2078, and now LF and RR wheels steered on 2079. It's really hard to see what's happened with the RR, but if you compare the 2078 and 2079 images:
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/re...03P1304R0M1.JPGhttp://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/re...04P1314R0M1.JPGthe soil behind the RR has moved quite a bit, perhaps looking as if the RR was actually driven. But my guess is it was just steered like all the others.
This is definitely all good news - finally the extraction has begun!
BrianL
Nov 8 2009, 07:49 PM
Given that we're already up near 1100 posts, perhaps time for a new thread to follow this process?
imipak
Nov 8 2009, 07:55 PM
I don't remember seeing any estimates of how far back along her path Spirit needs to move to have all five working wheels on solid ground. Does the thin crust over the bright, dusty material extend further back than the visible piles of powder excavated by the left hand wheels?
And - forgive me if this has been answered, I've searched but not been found it - do we know what the pale material actually is? Silica or sulphate salts, or something else?
(Edit: Found CosmicRocker / Paolo :
http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...;p=142244"]http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...st&p=142244
...which doesn't shed much light
)
brellis
Nov 8 2009, 08:16 PM
do they have cameras on the practice rovers? it'd be neat to see the p.o.v. of what they're planning to do, and how the view compares with the real deal on Mars.
elakdawalla
Nov 8 2009, 08:24 PM
erpol
Nov 9 2009, 12:15 PM
I'm a bit late, but I saw this continuation thread just now.
I only wanted to say:
It's a little ol' rover from Pa-sa-de-na...
Go Spirit go, Spirit go, Spirit go.
(cfr. Beach Boys mid '60)
Ciao,
Ermanno
ustrax
Nov 9 2009, 12:53 PM
briv1016
Nov 9 2009, 07:46 PM
Teleconference to be held on Thursday:
http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2009/nov/H...ck_telecon.htmlAudio stream should be available here:
http://www.nasa.gov/news/media/newsaudio/index.htmlAlso, the tracking site is back up.
The server is going to lag with all the spinning wheel gifs.
Hungry4info
Nov 10 2009, 06:55 AM
QUOTE (ups @ Nov 9 2009, 05:43 PM)
The server is going to lag with all the spinning wheel gifs.
Yeah isn't it great? the thread with the most spinning wheel gifs is for the rover that isn't going anywhere
Oersted
Nov 10 2009, 11:05 AM
Eppur si muove!
Greg Hullender
Nov 10 2009, 05:16 PM
QUOTE (Oersted @ Nov 10 2009, 03:05 AM)
Eppur si muove!
I'm still waiting to hear the inquisition's report.
--Greg :-)
centsworth_II
Nov 10 2009, 07:20 PM
QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Nov 7 2009, 11:37 AM)
I thought they were still dealing with the flash memory problems...
I guess they are...
Date extrication starts isn't quite certain, but happening very soon. Want to fix "amnesia events" first if we can.
http://twitter.com/MarsRoverDriver
Stu
Nov 11 2009, 07:30 AM
Scott's latest Tweet:
" On Nov 12, there will be a press conference on upcoming Spirit extrication. Expect news stories shortly after, everywhere. :-) "
Hungry4info
Nov 11 2009, 09:16 AM
What time?
Astro0
Nov 11 2009, 09:31 AM
What time? NASA will host a media teleconference at 1 p.m. EST on Thursday, Nov. 12, to discuss attempts to free the Mars rover Spirit from sandy soil where the venerable robot has been stuck for the past six months.
JayB
Nov 11 2009, 03:18 PM
"Expect news stories shortly after, everywhere. :-) "
If it wasn't for the smiley at the end, that statement would make me very nervous.
stevesliva
Nov 11 2009, 03:24 PM
It's a reasonable expectation that you will see headlines about NASA trying to rescue a "$300M rover" that has been "stuck for six months."
NASA and "problem" draws the press like flies on [a banana].
briv1016
Nov 11 2009, 03:34 PM
$400 million.
centsworth_II
Nov 11 2009, 07:37 PM
QUOTE (JayB @ Nov 11 2009, 10:18 AM)
"Expect news stories shortly after, everywhere. :-) "
If it wasn't for the smiley at the end, that statement would make me very nervous.
That comment is for the very general public. I would be surprised if there is anything new to readers of the UMSF Spirit thread. It doesn't look like there will even have been any additional action (since the steering movements) taken by Spirit before the briefing.
Tesheiner
Nov 11 2009, 08:42 PM
I would love to know what's behind the "backup plan" in
this other tweet:
Paolo, Ashley, & I talked w/Chris Voorhees, genius designer of MER's mobility system, today. Helped us re-eval one backup plan.
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