elakdawalla
Sep 8 2011, 05:47 PM
ugordan
Sep 8 2011, 06:27 PM
I must be doing something wrong because I can't find the new MDIS data either at Atlas search or any of the data directories.
Edit: found them
here.
ugordan
Sep 8 2011, 07:30 PM
One snapshot, hard to find a good frame when no browse images are available yet. EDC color interpolated through CIE XYZ colorspace and converted to sRGB. Magnified 2x from original pixel scale.
Click to view attachmentA note that our Moon appears similarly red/brown (somewhat less, though), yet the eye appears to compensate for that and make it grey. To human eyes adapted to Mercury's overall hue the surface would probably look more like this:
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ugordan
Sep 8 2011, 08:06 PM
One with a very low sun angle, again 2x:
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Great work! Looks like that last one is the same area as
this one released earlier:
ugordan
Sep 8 2011, 08:32 PM
Yes, it looked familiar to me, particularly that one crater that stands out. Just my luck to stumble onto the same one out of the hundreds of other images...
ugordan
Sep 8 2011, 09:03 PM
If you orbited high above Mercury, this is what you might see through the window:
Click to view attachmentThis should be a fair representation of actual albedo variations on the surface.
elakdawalla
Sep 9 2011, 01:24 PM
QUOTE (ugordan @ Sep 8 2011, 01:32 PM)

Yes, it looked familiar to me, particularly that one crater that stands out. Just my luck to stumble onto the same one out of the hundreds of other images...
Of course, theirs isn't in color and saturated at the extremes, and yours isn't (if you can follow my double negative

) Nice work!
Phil Stooke
Sep 9 2011, 01:44 PM
Another way to use the global map interface - a mosaic of an area at 25 north, 180 longitude on the western edge of Caloris. Irregular pits in the SE corner and on the eastern rims of the two large craters are volcanic vents. The largest ones were interpreted as such from Mariner 10 data, but many more are known now.
Phil
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QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Sep 9 2011, 06:44 AM)

Irregular pits in the SE corner and on the eastern rims of the two large craters are volcanic vents. The largest ones were interpreted as such from Mariner 10 data, but many more are known now.
If memory serves, a great many features on the Moon were believed to be volcanic vents, but few of these assignments survived the "ground truth" of Apollo. How well established is this hypothesis?
elakdawalla
Sep 9 2011, 08:29 PM
Pretty well. Mercury and the Moon are two very different places, despite their superficial similarities.
Here's one reference:
Evidence for Young Volcanism on Mercury from the Third MESSENGER FlybyQUOTE
During its first two flybys of Mercury, the MESSENGER spacecraft acquired images confirming that pervasive volcanism occurred early in the planet’s history. MESSENGER’s third Mercury flyby revealed a 290-kilometer-diameter peak-ring impact basin, among the youngest basins yet seen, having an inner floor filled with spectrally distinct smooth plains. These plains are sparsely cratered, postdate the formation of the basin, apparently formed from material that once flowed across the surface, and are therefore interpreted to be volcanic in origin. An irregular depression surrounded by a halo of bright deposits northeast of the basin marks a candidate explosive volcanic vent larger than any previously identified on Mercury. Volcanism on the planet thus spanned a considerable duration, perhaps extending well into the second half of solar system history.
Phil Stooke
Sep 9 2011, 09:35 PM
Thanks, Emily!
Yes... on the Moon there was a protracted dispute about the origins of the ubiquitous craters - volcanic or impact - very well described in Don Wilhelms' book "To a Rocky Moon". They were almost all impact craters, as logic and field geology eventually proved. There are volcanic craters on the Moon, but they are very minor features in most areas.
Mercury is different - we see all those circular craters and we know they are from impacts. But we also see irregular pits like the ones I illustrated... and the clincher is, they look different in multispectral data as well. Any individual feature might possibly be misidentified, but the basic picture is well established - lots of impact craters, but quite a lot of irregular volcanic depressions as well.
Phil
Phil Stooke
Sep 9 2011, 09:43 PM
This is MESSENGER flyby false color overlaid on an image of this area - see how the orange patches coincide with the pits, including those on the big crater's rim.
Phil
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ngunn
Sep 9 2011, 10:32 PM
QUOTE (kwp @ Sep 9 2011, 08:38 PM)

How well established is this hypothesis?
It's a reasonable question. Lava has flooded large parts of the surface of both worlds, no doubt about that. More (and more recently) on Mercury than the Moon seems likely. Identifying specific craters as volcanic vents, as opposed to peculiar-looking impact craters formed in an already shattered and unpredictable crater rim, must be less secure. Volcanoes don't have to be upstanding features. On Io most of them are pits. On any planet plains can be flooded with lava from below without leaving surface features identifiable as vents. There are a lot of people looking for volcanos everywhere. Keeping up the scepticism isn't a bad thing to do.
Phil Stooke
Sep 19 2011, 08:38 PM
Recent south pole images have filled in the whole polar gap in earlier maps. Here's a new mosaic. Hi Steve! You might like this...
Phil
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tanjent
Sep 20 2011, 05:05 PM
Is it safe to assume that the dark "bullseye" crater marks the exact position of pole?
I've heard it called the coldest place in the solar system, but I don't know if that is still operative.
It's hard to believe that such a dense metallic body as Mercury is such a poor conductor of heat, both from the interior and from the sun-exposed surfaces.
Phil Stooke
Sep 20 2011, 05:20 PM
Yes, it's the polar crater called Chao Meng-Fu. The amount of heat available to conduct from the interior would be very small. And of course the core may be large and metallic but the surface is rocky, not metallic. The dusty regolith would be a good insulator, not conducting heat sideways from sunlit areas. And any heat that did get in there is soon radiated away into space. Still, this might not be colder than the coldest lunar shadows, which are now referred to in the same way.
http://planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov/images/H-15.pdfLink to a PDF file of names of craters in this area, 1.5 MB.
Phil
Phil Stooke
Sep 25 2011, 07:55 PM
There's lots to see by browsing around that global map, even at this stage. Here is an unusual crater:
Click to view attachmentIt looks like an impact crater with a very large central peak. But it falls at the edge of pre-orbital color coverage:
Click to view attachment(top left) - where it coincides with an orange patch. In the false color composites made by the MESSENGER team this signifies pyroclastics. And the odd crater has no raised rim. Is it really just an extra-large explosive volcanism pit? Or one that completely surrounds the central peak of a regular crater? (some pits do curve part way around the floors of other craters). The big basin in the color image is Beethoven.
Phil
elakdawalla
Sep 29 2011, 03:45 PM
I just realized I hadn't started this thread in the proper subforum, so I moved it into the MESSENGER subforum.
hendric
Sep 29 2011, 08:45 PM
Phil,
That to me looks like a Mt. St. Helens-style volcano that blew its top and is regenerating itself. Can't see why that couldn't happen elsewhere in the Solar System.
scalbers
Oct 8 2011, 05:57 PM
QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Sep 19 2011, 09:38 PM)

Recent south pole images have filled in the whole polar gap in earlier maps. Here's a new mosaic. Hi Steve! You might like this...
Phil
Click to view attachmentGreetings Phil (and tanjent),
Yes, very nice to see this south polar mosaic. It is being included in a series of ongoing revisions to my map as can be seen here:
http://laps.noaa.gov/albers/sos/sos.html#MERCURYI am showing the South Pole to be just inside the rim of Chao Meng-Fu.
Steve
Ittiz
Oct 25 2012, 09:08 PM
Have they released any good topographic data yet?
djellison
Oct 25 2012, 09:24 PM
Phil Stooke
Oct 25 2012, 09:46 PM
It's worth pointing out that the Mercury Laser Altimeter data will only cover the northern hemisphere because of the shape of MESSENGER's orbit. The topography of the whole planet will be done with stereo imaging, at higher resolution but less accurate vertical control. The laser data will then improve the vertical accuracy in the northern hemisphere. The southern hemisphere will get a bit of additional vertical accuracy from limb profiles (including from the early fly-bys) and occultations. The final result will be a good data set but not all from the one instrument.
Phil
Ittiz
Oct 26 2012, 01:20 PM
Yeah, I've seen that data. So basically it's going to be a wait before we get good topographical data for the whole globe.
peter59
Mar 13 2013, 09:41 PM
MESSENGER MDIS Release #9 is now available. (2012 day 86 - 2012 day 261)
http://pdsimg.jpl.nasa.gov/index.html Lots of wonderful images like this:
Click to view attachment And specific software for quick viewing of this data set:
Click to view attachment Enjoy.
nprev
Mar 13 2013, 10:52 PM
That pic is a jaw-dropper, Peter!
Explorer1
Mar 14 2013, 05:22 AM
Absolutely bizarre. And probably the best views we'll get in a long time. Any news about extending the mission past the 17th?
Edit: see
http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/scienc...p;image_id=1115 for reasons for the mission to continue: 100% coverage is just the start....
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