The Top of Vera Rubin Ridge Part 1, Site 66-67, sol 1812-1943, 11 Sep 2017-23 Jan 2018 |
The Top of Vera Rubin Ridge Part 1, Site 66-67, sol 1812-1943, 11 Sep 2017-23 Jan 2018 |
Sep 11 2017, 09:50 AM
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Welcome to Route 66... Er, make that Site 66
Drive 0000 on Sol 1812. Roughly stitched L-NavCam using MS ICE Midnight Planets reporting it as ~5.6m ESE (115º) link |
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Sep 11 2017, 08:19 PM
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A new site seems like a good spot to make the split to a new thread.
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Sep 13 2017, 05:15 AM
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Sep 13 2017, 09:28 AM
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Sep 13 2017, 09:49 AM
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Sep 13 2017, 11:01 PM
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The really fine laminations indicate suspension fallout in reasonably deep still water, so the crater was experiencing a wet environment when this level was laid down. Given the original permeability of the deposits my horribly unreliable intuition suspects that the hematite developed during a dry cycle via a mixing interface between groundwater and water infiltrating from a disconnected stream, fed by acidic meltwater at the beginning of the volcanic period that gave rise to the sulphate formation. Development in an open rather than closed environment.
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Sep 14 2017, 06:24 AM
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Sep 14 2017, 08:03 AM
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Sep 14 2017, 11:39 AM
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The really fine laminations indicate suspension fallout in reasonably deep still water, so the crater was experiencing a wet environment when this level was laid down. Given the original permeability of the deposits my horribly unreliable intuition suspects that the hematite developed during a dry cycle via a mixing interface between groundwater and water infiltrating from a disconnected stream, fed by acidic meltwater at the beginning of the volcanic period that gave rise to the sulphate formation. Development in an open rather than closed environment. I assume the spot was cleared of dust by laser blasts, not by brushing? If so I don't think I have ever seen this type of cleaning. Might the shiny surface be hematite? Not berries, but sheets??? -------------------- |
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Sep 14 2017, 09:30 PM
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I assume the spot was cleared of dust by laser blasts, not by brushing? If so I don't think I have ever seen this type of cleaning. Might the shiny surface be hematite? Not berries, but sheets??? It appears to be LIBS of an AEGIS target. Here is the before and after LIBS. The eroded surface seems to have small 'facets' for want of a better description. Certainly an interesting site... |
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Sep 16 2017, 01:18 AM
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Specular reflections which is a pointer to crystalline minerals. Given that this is the hematite cemented ridge we could punt for hematite / goethite.
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Sep 16 2017, 08:31 AM
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2 MAHLI's from Sol 1816 of the fractured sedimentary bedrock in front of the rover. The first is a context frame, the second is a focus merged product of the center of the context frame. The surface dust is more abundant on certain areas, probably just on the 'flatter sections' but at first glance I thought is was concentrated at specific laminations
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Sep 16 2017, 11:48 AM
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ChemCam RMI Z-stack & red/cyan anaglyph of fine laminations in the target "Phoney Island".
Assembled using the 7 'ENHANCED Data Products' posted by JPL of the 9 RMI frames acquired, it may be possible to pull some more detail from all 9 if the missing 2 turn up as enhanced files. I used PICOLAY to assembled the Z-Stack and the anaglyph shown here. I'm sure JPL's 3D model will be much better than this basic version, but it was fun making it |
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Sep 16 2017, 12:38 PM
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Sep 18 2017, 05:23 AM
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After all those fine laminations, now for somethiing a little different. Hmmmmm definitely different Looks rather complex, so better get back to the fine laminations A simple 12 frame HazCam animation of some of the arm work at the current location, hopefully I interpreted the target names correctly from the Mission Update Link in case animation wont play LINK |
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Sep 18 2017, 07:09 PM
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Sep 19 2017, 05:27 PM
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Sep 20 2017, 11:18 AM
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Yes, that does look interesting.
This is Jan's panorama for sol 1819 in circular form. The rocky pavement is a big change from so many sols among broken rocks. Phil PS - I'm in Salisbury, UK for the next few weeks. If any UMSF fans want to meet up send me a message. -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Sep 20 2017, 07:59 PM
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PS - I'm in Salisbury, UK for the next few weeks. If any UMSF fans want to meet up send me a message Phil, it would be great to meet up for a natter re all things umsf and (horrors!) msf..... I live less than 30 miles from Salisbury, and Ian Regan is Plymouth-based, perhaps we could have a mini-summit. Any other umsf'ers that could make it while Phil's in the UK? |
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Sep 21 2017, 03:17 AM
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Sep 21 2017, 09:36 AM
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That really does look like a meteorite! From the update, it is called Mustards Island.
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Sep 21 2017, 03:34 PM
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That really does look like a meteorite! From the update, it is called Mustards Island. Only one ChemCam-RMI image of Mustard Island came down (so far), so looks like it was not zapped, even though it was inside the range of the laser, so I guess we'll never know for sure, but I'm still calling it a meteorite EDIT: strike that comment, they did zap it LINK and that zap took the laser hits above 500k |
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Sep 22 2017, 02:25 AM
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Sep 22 2017, 02:18 PM
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Sep 22 2017, 02:54 PM
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Sep 22 2017, 07:08 PM
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Sep 22 2017, 10:17 PM
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Sep 23 2017, 12:48 PM
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Apparently we are now in a new quadrangle. Names from the latest status report include Sherwood Forest and Troll Valley, taken from the 1883 novel The Merry Adventures of Robin Hood by Howard Pyle. Previous quads took names from geological features of the areas which gave the quads their names. I don't know what this quad will be named. If anyone can fill us in, I would be grateful.
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Sep 24 2017, 06:25 AM
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Well I can't claim to have seen a reaction like that to a ChemCam LIBS session ) I believe this may be one of the MAHLI's of the sol 1821 odd looking ChemCam target I posted a few days back. Rotated & cropped, in raw colour and presented side-by-side with the RMI. Looks like the liberal coating of dust and the darker bedrock gave us the interesting B&W image |
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Sep 24 2017, 07:04 AM
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That does seem to be the target, good eyes there Paul. The RMI operating range is 400 nm to 840 nm so there was possibly a big spike in one section of the reflectance spectra.
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Sep 25 2017, 03:34 AM
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Sep 25 2017, 10:51 AM
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I think this sol 1822 ChemCam target is Hypocrites Ledge, I added the R-MastCam context image as well as a small mosaic of R-NavCam images to the 4 frame RMI mosaic. AlgorimancerPG was used to create the scale bar.
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Sep 27 2017, 04:47 AM
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Sep 27 2017, 05:09 AM
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Well the depositional environment is certainly changing as we get closer to the top of the ridge.
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Sep 27 2017, 06:32 AM
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Almost looks like tree rings. Very uniform in thickness I think. Seasonal?
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Sep 27 2017, 09:50 AM
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Sep 27 2017, 03:00 PM
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A circular view of Jan's new panorama. Soon enough - a month or two perhaps - and we will be looking into the stunning terrain south of the ridge.
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Sep 27 2017, 03:33 PM
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Sep 28 2017, 03:54 AM
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There are a number of factors that could have influenced bedding formation that are not necessarily cyclical. For example changes in the sources of sediment and variations in sediment supply, water depth and velocity, changes in climate or local environment, wind velocity and direction if aeolian, airfall from volcanic activity or impacts and so on. There should be some interesting papers in the next LSPC.
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Sep 28 2017, 08:47 AM
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R-MastCam from 1821 which is the context image for the ChemCam target called 'Mustards Island'. We can see the LIBS locations as bright specs which are very similar to earlier LIBS sites on iron meteorites, but I've not yet seen any reports from JPL, I guess we have to await a paper, or a Photo Journal post
Using AlgorimancerPG I get a width of ~6 cm. |
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Sep 28 2017, 06:27 PM
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Sep 28 2017, 07:15 PM
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Yeah - that was a fun shift yesterday (1829) - did my best to raise the drive direction (ncam00267) to cover Mt Sharp without getting a hole in coverage between it, the Workspace (ncam00375) and the ChemCam targetable region (ncam00312) - a lot of back and forth, relying on an end of drive pitch/tilt to make it work.
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Sep 28 2017, 09:33 PM
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The view is getting stunninger and stunninger (for one as easily stunned as me). Here are Jan's two latest panoramas in circular form.
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Sep 29 2017, 02:32 PM
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Sep 29 2017, 04:10 PM
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Sep 30 2017, 03:27 AM
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Probably a superb image Charborob, but unfortunately Flic.kr is yet again declining to play.
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Sep 30 2017, 03:59 AM
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Sep 30 2017, 05:25 PM
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Sol 1830 Lmastcam view (compressed):
and the Flickr link: https://flic.kr/p/YVSHPw (hope this works) |
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A pair of rather interesting ChemCam Targets from sol 1831, shown in context on a resized version of the L-MastCam workspace from 1830
The mission update refers to them as "Normandien," and "Black Reef." Besides the interesting shapes, any thoughts on the small surface pits? |
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Oct 1 2017, 02:51 AM
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Oct 1 2017, 09:59 AM
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Strange little beasts. Normandien appears to be shot through with crack-filling intrusions of white material, so possibly metamorphized. The pits may have been inclusions of some other mineral that either evaporated out during the metamorphism or eroded away after the rock reached the surface.
(Sheer guesses; let's see what the real geologists say. ) -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Oct 1 2017, 09:40 PM
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I've seen voids like that in red mudstone, usually casts of carbonate or salt crystals that later dissolved. Hmm, micro-kettles when the loss inclusions salt, water ice or dry ice create voids? What sort of stability do water ice or dry ice have at the guesstimated deposition temperatures and pressures? |
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I think we need to wait and see what this little fellow is made of. While there may have been a few kilometres of sedimentary material covering this area in the past there would not be anywhere near the heat or pressure necessary for metamorphism. Could the apparent veining on the sunlit side be an artefact of reflectance?
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Oct 2 2017, 12:49 AM
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Oct 2 2017, 01:43 AM
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Given that we are still on a slope climbing towards the top of the ridge and these probably bounced down from a higher level, it wouldn't surprise to find that "Black Reef" is a chip off the old block so to speak.
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Oct 2 2017, 07:18 PM
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Only two in the immediate vicinity? If they were tumbling from above, wouldn't there be more? Having said that I don't know what "the immediate vicinity" is . Certainly seems to me to be out of context with their current location, very interesting that one seems to be a 'longer baked, bigger version, more developed', call it what you will, version of the other. Perhaps one arrived at it's current location long before the other?
Geology....madness solidified, I don't know how you do it! |
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Oct 2 2017, 11:41 PM
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Given that we are still on a slope climbing towards the top of the ridge and these probably bounced down from a higher level, it wouldn't surprise to find that "Black Reef" is a chip off the old block so to speak. "Architecture is solid music" - von Goethe "Geology is solid climatology" - me |
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Oct 3 2017, 12:00 AM
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I would amend that to read " Sedimentary geology is solid climatology" - you.
I was in fact mulling over the possibility that "Black Reef" parted from "Normandien" on the way down, along a fracture. We have seen a few instances of this with float. For example, this three piece jigsaw. |
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Oct 3 2017, 06:14 AM
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Arm/drill issues after placing a sample from Ogunquit Beach in CheMin prevented the drive on sol 1833. That presented an opportunity to take another look at Normandien with ChemCam in Passive mode. It also meant the rover acquired a set of NavCam images with the arm extended
MS ICE managed to assemble these three frames. 'Curiosity looking back at its path', I hope others will properly assemble these. |
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Oct 3 2017, 07:03 AM
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We now have the R-MastCam frames of the two interesting 1831 ChemCam targets: ... To my limited geological experience, this looks remotely reminiscent of eroded stalagmites. Clay-loaded cool liquid dropping on a warmer ground would dry rapidly, form uneven layers, and might form small drying bubbles by outgassing or boiling. As usual in hugely underdetermined data sets, that's just one of an arbitrary number of options. |
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To add to the range of possibilities... it was suggested that these rocks fell down the slope from higher layers, but I would point out an alternative direction of movement - impact ejecta thrown up from the plains to the north, or even from much further afield. If the material was impact melt, solidifying in flight, the holes might be vesicles (bubbles). Not saying it has to be that, I just want to add to the confusion.
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Drive of approximately 13.9m SSE (147º) on Sol 1834 (Oct 3, 2017) LINK
Very roughly processed and roughly stitched partial pan assembled in MS ICE using the L-NavCam's... Poor processing, but a great view |
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Sol 1834 Hazcams reprojected to find the location after the drive - not always good enough, but today they work just fine.
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On the latest NavCam pics, and due to the low opacity of the Martian atmosphere and our climbing the hills, we are beginning to see clearly some far horizon features (herewith a Sol 1834 pic).
Dear Phil, as our talented Cartographer-in-Chief, could you please give us your opinion with a location on a map ? Thanks so much in advance |
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Oct 4 2017, 08:13 PM
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Those look like the same features Phil identified in this post.
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Oct 5 2017, 07:01 AM
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Those look like the same features Phil identified in this post. Thanks a lot fredk for the link... and also to Phil for his good map |
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Oct 5 2017, 07:23 AM
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Oct 5 2017, 09:49 AM
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Oct 5 2017, 11:21 AM
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One of sol 1836 DRT targets has some lighter toned areas within the brushed zone (not the calcium sulfate veins). I thought maybe these were DRT scouring on the high spots on a soft rock target, however another MAHLI of the same target after the LIBS array, but prior to the DRT appears to show some of the light toned areas may have been present before the DRT brushed the target. The raw images are attached. One of the LIBS sites may have hit the edge of a light toned area, so it may be interesting to review the spectra once released
Links to raw images Link_1 - Link_2 |
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Oct 7 2017, 07:57 PM
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Oct 8 2017, 12:02 PM
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Oct 8 2017, 02:50 PM
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My take on the beautiful MC34 panorama of sol 1812, while climbing the ramp to top:
And panorama taken with NavCam Left on sol 1833 patched with pictures taken on sol 1834, with a sky adapted from scalbers' work: You can explore it in Virtual Reality here on Round Me. Does someone know a sol where the rover would have taken a picture of its turret in the same orientation as on sol 1833? So that I can fill the part not imaged on sol 1833... -------------------- |
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Oct 8 2017, 03:41 PM
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Oct 8 2017, 07:26 PM
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Mosaic of pictures taken with MC34 on sol 1830 and 1834. Top of the hills were patched with pictures of sol 1829. I'm looking forward to a panorama taken with MC100 !
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Jan's last two panoramas in circular form. They really help to give the impression of driving across this elevated and pitted surface.
Phil Sol 1834: Sol 1837: -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PD: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
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Oct 10 2017, 09:58 PM
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exhumed meteorite fragment or specular deception? m34/m100 cross anaglyph and detail in parellel view, but clearest view in the sol1847 original
Actually made me think of that 'italy' prong way back at yellowknife(discussion), which looking back was probably a meteorite fragment still embedded. |
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A small move on sol 1843... but just a turn in place, I think. If it was intended, it may be to reach an interesting target with the arm. Otherwise it might be an aborted drive. No map update for this.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PD: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
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A small move on sol 1843... but just a turn in place, I think. If it was intended, it may be to reach an interesting target with the arm. Otherwise it might be an aborted drive. No map update for this. Phil It was an aborted drive. Not sure about the details since I was out of the office today but saw the fault on my email update. Paolo -------------------- Disclaimer: all opinions, ideas and information included here are my own,and should not be intended to represent opinion or policy of my employer.
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Here's a cheat for those following along at home. Every day there is a drive or robotic arm stuff planned, ECAM delivers a sequence called FHAZ00190
It's an off-nominal image - if something happens that causes a drive to abort early or an arm sequence to stop unexpectedly....then FHAZ00190 gets taken. Such as https://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/ra...90M_&s=1839 If it's a drive - quite often - the rest of the post drive imaging will still occurs such as a normal end of drive FHAZ, RHAZ and series of NavCam sequences - which is why there's an FHAZ00337 taken shortly afterwards.. https://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/ra...37M_&s=1839 |
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Oct 16 2017, 07:55 PM
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Thanks, Jan. Here is your panorama in circular form. Moving along the ridge a bit. A map update will follow shortly.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PD: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
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Could be the mind wanting to see patterns, pareidolia, but there seem to be several linear or rippled features in those pebbles... Wonder if CO2 frosts and dunes can churn martian soil the same way freeze thaw does on earth... |
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